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Title: Patriot Act Extensions PASS!!!!
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Published: Feb 14, 2011
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Post Date: 2011-02-14 21:12:10 by farmfriend
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Who voted, and how they voted. Only 27 Republicans voted NO! What happened to all those new tea party people?!?
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#2. To: farmfriend (#0)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
Yes. My email to Lungren! Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!! deleted
The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
Tel-Aviv tel-aphoned. Their jewish masters were displeased. Commandment One of the New judeo Century in Uhhmerkka: Thou shalt not allow ANY benefit to the citizens. Do-over or die.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
There have been several votes under varying rules. Two did not pass but this one did.
Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!! Uhhhh...voters swindled yet again by the system?????
Evidently. Looks like they might've changed the length of the extension.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
Esso... Those dirty politicians have been voting on the length of rope they intend to hang us with. What a charade, what a farce, and the voters march along in lockstep, wondering what happened. Damn...its the system stupid.
When Ron Paul becomes prezidunt, he'll fix all that. :P
Yes and we knew it was going to happen. Same shit, different day.
Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!! Like I said, Tel-Aviv tel-aphoned. Do the math.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
What a pantload!! Yet, the dupes will send these idiots back to DC AGAIN for another go around. Who can be surprised after they sold us out to the bankers and have been extending this idiotic Piss on Patriots Act for a decade? I'm running out of disgust.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
Yes Sir, pubs control the House, things gonna change round here.. House extends Patriot Act... The vote...This bill cruised to approval, 275 to 144. What???? Wait the "good guys" are in charge now, right???? What happened?
yes, they re-voted and interesting that this time, one more republican voted NO. 26 voted no last week, 27 voted no today. the dems must have been the ones to switch. every one of the 26 repubs who voted no last week also voted no this time. farmfriend, do you know if those vote was also under 'suspension of rules' and was a 2/3 majority required? thanks
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 my husband had jury duty selection today. the defendant was a young black man who was accused of breaking into a car. there were two questions that pretty much showed you the attitude of most americans, imo. they were asked to rate the APD on a scale from 1-10. the majority rated it 8 or 9. one a 6 and my husband rated it a 5. another question was would they be more likely to believe the testimony of a uniformed cop and almost every person in the room answered yes. my husband wasn't selected because when he was asked if he'd follow the law his answer was "not if i believe a law to be unfair or unconstitutional." my point is that if these people were representative of most americans then we can see that most want the control and tyranny of legislation like the Patriot Act.
good reason. We cannot have people with a brain deciding what is right and wrong. The government will tell you.
Good on your hubby!! I would get the boot from jury duty for the same reasons. I'd be asking: Why aren't you all explaining nullification to the lot of us? I really think that most people are simply ignorant, willfully ignorant, and they don't want anybody to rock that paradigm. It's sad.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
You shouldn't burden the TeaParty hating, RAT loving malcontents with the truth. It's beyond their grasp.
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
actually, i see that 2 less democrats voted for it this time. the difference must have been that a simple majority was needed to pass, instead of the 2/3 last time. they must have not been under a suspended rule deal where 2/3 was needed to pass it today.
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 ======================================== “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.” —Joseph Goebbels
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
Excellent letter, but you might have driven the point home with, "Security does NOT mean giving up our Freedom!" It might have triggered his memory of the great statesman who said, "Those who would give up freedom for security, deserve niether."
I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant
They changed the rules so that only a simple majority was required to pass the bill, as opposed to a 2/3 majority. Many of the new Republican Congressmen rode in on the coattails of the anti-Dem revolt. They weren't members of the Tea Party.
You know that is a really good summation.
Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!! Hmmm, I don't think it was. I'll look around, get back to you.
Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!! LOL
Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!! Thanks ratcat, there was a question about that. that and the tea party has been corrupted by neocons. There were 80 some odd that the media had labeled tea party people. for what that is worth.
Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!! deleted
The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
Don't fret Flint. I've been trying my best to wake people up since '92. It's not likely to happen. Leave this mess to the younger set and enjoy your life. It's they and their kids who will take it on the chin.
We need a good, jury duty DVD for the project.
The selection process is clearly rigged, don't let them know you have a brain. Lie your ass off in order to get selected for jury duty. Then, educate the jury about nullification and such. It is an honor and your duty to protect the innocent. We are all innocent, under the law, until found guilty by a fully informed jury.
any reply?
To those that won't take a big economic hit, they should be lining up for jury duty. Nullify the System.
Not yet but I did request one.
Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!! Our Enemy the Statist. Filthy, lying, murderous whores.
Dear farmfriend, The good news or "silver lining" to the misnamed Patriot Act (Iron Curtain Act would have been a better descriptor) is that it's force and effect or Jurisdictional claim is exclusive to the so-called Former Slave class or today's 14th Amendment Serfs. It is also important to note that the Territorial jurisdiction claim of the Iron Curtain Act is also exclusively Federal (DC, the Territories etc. and not the fifty states of the Union). If you are not happy with the Pat Act, Obama Care, Driving Regs, Income Tax etc. it's a simple matter of correcting political status (to state National from 14th Amendment Serf) to escape or mitigate this modern condition of regulatory slavery. For additional detail see LB Bork's website or begin your study of the above referenced remedy with Bork's "The Red Amendment" and enjoy unalienable/natural rights shared by the founding generation rather than "Inc." or incorporated rights. Yours as a state National, Patrick
In effect, it’s (The Holacaust Inc.) become like a grotesque doll wielded by witch doctors, used to keep individuals from asking too many questions, from thinking for themselves and stepping out of line.
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#3. To: Eric Stratton (#2)
Message: I am extremely angry over your Patriot Act votes. You are voting against Constitutional principles and civil liberties. Violating my rights does not make this country safer! I see McClintock voted NO. Thank God one of you understand what his constituents want. Conservatism does NOT mean giving up our Constitution!
#4. To: farmfriend (#3)
#5. To: Eric Stratton (#2)
I don't understand, didn't they just vote on this a few days ago and it didn't pass?
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#6. To: Esso (#5)
#7. To: Eric Stratton (#4)
So they revoted then?
#8. To: farmfriend (#0)
Only 27 Republicans voted NO! What happened to all those new tea party people?!?
#9. To: Eric Stratton (#6)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#10. To: Esso (#9)
#11. To: Esso (#9)
Evidently. Looks like they might've changed the length of the extension.
#12. To: Cynicom (#11)
Damn...its the system stupid.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#13. To: Eric Stratton (#10)
So they just keep trying shoes until one fits then?
What kind of pigshit is that?!
#14. To: Eric Stratton (#10)
What kind of pigshit is that?!
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#15. To: Esso (#14)
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#16. To: farmfriend (#0)
#17. To: Esso (#14)
#18. To: Eric Stratton, farmfriend (#15)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#19. To: abraxas, Esso, Cynicom, Eric Stratton, all (#16)
#20. To: christine (#19)
my husband wasn't selected
#21. To: christine (#19)
my point is that if these people were representative of most americans then we can see that most want the control and tyranny of legislation like the Patriot Act.
#22. To: Artisan (#18)
the dems must have been the ones to switch. every one of the 26 repubs who voted no last week also voted no this time.
#23. To: Flintlock (#22)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#24. To: christine (#19)
my point is that if these people were representative of most americans then we can see that most want the control and tyranny of legislation like the Patriot Act.
#25. To: farmfriend (#0)
What happened to all those new tea party people?!?
#26. To: farmfriend (#3)
Conservatism does NOT mean giving up our Constitution!
#27. To: farmfriend (#0)
#28. To: abraxas (#16)
I'm running out of disgust.
#29. To: Artisan (#18)
farmfriend, do you know if those vote was also under 'suspension of rules' and was a 2/3 majority required? thanks
#30. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#25)
#31. To: ratcat, Artisan (#27)
They changed the rules so that only a simple majority was required to pass the bill, as opposed to a 2/3 majority.
Many of the new Republican Congressmen rode in on the coattails of the anti-Dem revolt. They weren't members of the Tea Party.
#32. To: Artisan (#18)
#33. To: christine (#19)
#34. To: Cynicom, All (#20)
#35. To: Flintlock (#22)
You shouldn't burden the TeaParty hating, RAT loving malcontents with the truth. It's beyond their grasp.
#36. To: christine (#19)
#37. To: abraxas (#21)
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Good on your hubby!! I would get the boot from jury duty for the same reasons. I'd be asking: Why aren't you all explaining nullification to the lot of us?
#38. To: farmfriend (#3)
Message: I am extremely angry over your Patriot Act votes. You are voting against Constitutional principles and civil liberties. Violating my rights does not make this country safer! I see McClintock voted NO. Thank God one of you understand what his constituents want. Conservatism does NOT mean giving up our Constitution!
#39. To: wakeup (#37)
It is an honor and your duty to protect the innocent. We are all innocent, under the law, until found guilty by a fully informed jury.
#40. To: christine (#38)
any reply?
#41. To: farmfriend (#0)
#42. To: farmfriend (#3)
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