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Title: Patriot Act Extensions PASS!!!!
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Published: Feb 14, 2011
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Post Date: 2011-02-14 21:12:10 by farmfriend
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Who voted, and how they voted. Only 27 Republicans voted NO! What happened to all those new tea party people?!?

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#10. To: Esso (#9)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-02-14   21:43:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Esso (#9)

Evidently. Looks like they might've changed the length of the extension.

Esso...

Those dirty politicians have been voting on the length of rope they intend to hang us with.

What a charade, what a farce, and the voters march along in lockstep, wondering what happened.

Damn...its the system stupid.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-02-14   21:45:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#11)

Damn...its the system stupid.

When Ron Paul becomes prezidunt, he'll fix all that. :P

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2011-02-14   21:53:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Eric Stratton (#10)

So they just keep trying shoes until one fits then?

Yes and we knew it was going to happen.

What kind of pigshit is that?!

Same shit, different day.


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2011-02-14   21:53:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Eric Stratton (#10)

What kind of pigshit is that?!

Like I said, Tel-Aviv tel-aphoned. Do the math.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2011-02-14   21:56:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Esso (#14) (Edited)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-02-14   21:59:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: farmfriend (#0)

What a pantload!! Yet, the dupes will send these idiots back to DC AGAIN for another go around. Who can be surprised after they sold us out to the bankers and have been extending this idiotic Piss on Patriots Act for a decade?

I'm running out of disgust.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

abraxas  posted on  2011-02-14   22:07:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Esso (#14)

Yes Sir, pubs control the House, things gonna change round here..

House extends Patriot Act...

The vote...This bill cruised to approval, 275 to 144.

What???? Wait the "good guys" are in charge now, right????

What happened?

Cynicom  posted on  2011-02-14   22:28:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Eric Stratton, farmfriend (#15)

yes, they re-voted and interesting that this time, one more republican voted NO. 26 voted no last week, 27 voted no today. the dems must have been the ones to switch. every one of the 26 repubs who voted no last week also voted no this time.

farmfriend, do you know if those vote was also under 'suspension of rules' and was a 2/3 majority required? thanks

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2011-02-14   22:28:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: abraxas, Esso, Cynicom, Eric Stratton, all (#16)

my husband had jury duty selection today. the defendant was a young black man who was accused of breaking into a car. there were two questions that pretty much showed you the attitude of most americans, imo. they were asked to rate the APD on a scale from 1-10. the majority rated it 8 or 9. one a 6 and my husband rated it a 5. another question was would they be more likely to believe the testimony of a uniformed cop and almost every person in the room answered yes. my husband wasn't selected because when he was asked if he'd follow the law his answer was "not if i believe a law to be unfair or unconstitutional."

my point is that if these people were representative of most americans then we can see that most want the control and tyranny of legislation like the Patriot Act.

christine  posted on  2011-02-14   22:33:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: christine (#19)

my husband wasn't selected

good reason.

We cannot have people with a brain deciding what is right and wrong.

The government will tell you.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-02-14   22:39:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: christine (#19)

my point is that if these people were representative of most americans then we can see that most want the control and tyranny of legislation like the Patriot Act.

Good on your hubby!! I would get the boot from jury duty for the same reasons. I'd be asking: Why aren't you all explaining nullification to the lot of us?

I really think that most people are simply ignorant, willfully ignorant, and they don't want anybody to rock that paradigm. It's sad.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

abraxas  posted on  2011-02-14   22:41:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Artisan (#18)

the dems must have been the ones to switch. every one of the 26 repubs who voted no last week also voted no this time.

You shouldn't burden the TeaParty hating, RAT loving malcontents with the truth. It's beyond their grasp.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2011-02-14   22:43:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Flintlock (#22)

actually, i see that 2 less democrats voted for it this time. the difference must have been that a simple majority was needed to pass, instead of the 2/3 last time. they must have not been under a suspended rule deal where 2/3 was needed to pass it today.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2011-02-14   22:50:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: christine (#19)

my point is that if these people were representative of most americans then we can see that most want the control and tyranny of legislation like the Patriot Act.

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“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.” —Joseph Goebbels

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2011-02-14   22:55:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: farmfriend (#0)


What happened to all those new tea party people?!?

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2011-02-14   22:57:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: farmfriend (#3)

Conservatism does NOT mean giving up our Constitution!

Excellent letter, but you might have driven the point home with, "Security does NOT mean giving up our Freedom!" It might have triggered his memory of the great statesman who said, "Those who would give up freedom for security, deserve niether."

I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant

angK  posted on  2011-02-14   23:30:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: farmfriend (#0)

They changed the rules so that only a simple majority was required to pass the bill, as opposed to a 2/3 majority.

Many of the new Republican Congressmen rode in on the coattails of the anti-Dem revolt. They weren't members of the Tea Party.

ratcat  posted on  2011-02-15   1:08:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: abraxas (#16)

I'm running out of disgust.

You know that is a really good summation.


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2011-02-15   1:24:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Artisan (#18)

farmfriend, do you know if those vote was also under 'suspension of rules' and was a 2/3 majority required? thanks

Hmmm, I don't think it was. I'll look around, get back to you.


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2011-02-15   1:26:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#25)

LOL


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2011-02-15   1:27:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: ratcat, Artisan (#27)

They changed the rules so that only a simple majority was required to pass the bill, as opposed to a 2/3 majority.

Thanks ratcat, there was a question about that.

Many of the new Republican Congressmen rode in on the coattails of the anti-Dem revolt. They weren't members of the Tea Party.

that and the tea party has been corrupted by neocons. There were 80 some odd that the media had labeled tea party people. for what that is worth.


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2011-02-15   1:58:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Artisan (#18)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-02-15   8:19:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: christine (#19)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-02-15   8:21:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Cynicom, All (#20)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-02-15   8:21:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Flintlock (#22)

You shouldn't burden the TeaParty hating, RAT loving malcontents with the truth. It's beyond their grasp.

Don't fret Flint. I've been trying my best to wake people up since '92. It's not likely to happen. Leave this mess to the younger set and enjoy your life. It's they and their kids who will take it on the chin.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-02-15   8:27:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: christine (#19)

We need a good, jury duty DVD for the project.

OneDollarDVDProject.com

wakeup  posted on  2011-02-15   10:14:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: abraxas (#21) (Edited)

Good on your hubby!! I would get the boot from jury duty for the same reasons. I'd be asking: Why aren't you all explaining nullification to the lot of us?

The selection process is clearly rigged, don't let them know you have a brain. Lie your ass off in order to get selected for jury duty. Then, educate the jury about nullification and such. It is an honor and your duty to protect the innocent. We are all innocent, under the law, until found guilty by a fully informed jury.

OneDollarDVDProject.com

wakeup  posted on  2011-02-15   10:26:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: farmfriend (#3)

Message: I am extremely angry over your Patriot Act votes. You are voting against Constitutional principles and civil liberties. Violating my rights does not make this country safer! I see McClintock voted NO. Thank God one of you understand what his constituents want. Conservatism does NOT mean giving up our Constitution!

any reply?

christine  posted on  2011-02-15   10:39:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: wakeup (#37)

It is an honor and your duty to protect the innocent. We are all innocent, under the law, until found guilty by a fully informed jury.

To those that won't take a big economic hit, they should be lining up for jury duty.

Nullify the System.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-02-15   10:48:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: christine (#38)

any reply?

Not yet but I did request one.


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2011-02-15   10:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: farmfriend (#0)

Our Enemy the Statist.

Filthy, lying, murderous whores.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2011-02-15   11:03:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: farmfriend (#3)

Dear farmfriend,

The good news or "silver lining" to the misnamed Patriot Act (Iron Curtain Act would have been a better descriptor) is that it's force and effect or Jurisdictional claim is exclusive to the so-called Former Slave class or today's 14th Amendment Serfs. It is also important to note that the Territorial jurisdiction claim of the Iron Curtain Act is also exclusively Federal (DC, the Territories etc. and not the fifty states of the Union).

If you are not happy with the Pat Act, Obama Care, Driving Regs, Income Tax etc. it's a simple matter of correcting political status (to state National from 14th Amendment Serf) to escape or mitigate this modern condition of regulatory slavery.

For additional detail see LB Bork's website or begin your study of the above referenced remedy with Bork's "The Red Amendment" and enjoy unalienable/natural rights shared by the founding generation rather than "Inc." or incorporated rights.

Yours as a state National,

Patrick

In effect, it’s (The Holacaust Inc.) become like a grotesque doll wielded by witch doctors, used to keep individuals from asking too many questions, from thinking for themselves and stepping out of line.

PatrickHenry  posted on  2011-02-15   11:12:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: PatrickHenry (#42)

I know what you are talking about. I've heard about it from other sources. I also understand the history behind what you are saying. How ever, I think it is a dangerous road to go down.


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2011-02-15   11:31:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Lysander_Spooner, farmfriend (#41)

» Betrayed! Tea Party Politicians Vote for Patriot Act

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2011-02-17   12:02:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: TwentyTwelve (#44)

Tea Partiers for the most part are traitors like most all other politicians.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2011-02-17   13:00:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: TwentyTwelve (#44)

thanks for the article!


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2011-02-17   13:23:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: farmfriend (#46)

thanks for the article!

Do you feel betrayed?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2011-02-17   13:41:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: TwentyTwelve (#47)

My Rep is Lungren. He is typical Republican. Yeah I felt betrayed but that was a few years ago.


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2011-02-17   13:44:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Lysander_Spooner (#45)

Tea Partiers for the most part are traitors like most all other politicians.

Even if they go in as "good guys", they almost always get bought out.

Most end up looking out for themselves and have little interest in what is best for the U.S. and the rest of us.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2011-02-17   13:45:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Lysander_Spooner (#41)

Our Enemy the Statist.

Filthy, lying, murderous whores.

Kept propped up by a volunteer 'army' of social misfits, degenerates, and killers.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-02-17   13:45:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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