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Title: Get Rid of College
Source: UncleBob's Treehouse
URL Source: http://uncabob.blogspot.com/
Published: Feb 17, 2011
Author: Bob Wallace
Post Date: 2011-02-17 11:06:25 by Turtle
Keywords: None
Views: 574
Comments: 18

A friend of mine who is a podiatrist told me he could teach his entire job in six months. I believe him. A woman I know studying to be a nurse had to drop out – temporarily, she hopes – because she could not pass the algebra course.

Why does a nurse need to know algebra? She doesn’t. Algebra doesn’t exist in real life. Another woman told me years ago she became a nurse in ten months. Now a four-year college degree is expected.

I could go on, so I will. An old girlfriend, who has an MBA in Accounting and Finance, had to take a calculus course twice to pass it. Does she ever use calculus? No. Will she ever? No. So why did she have to take it?

Many college degrees are worthless. Whatever happened to Jimmy Olsen, cub reporter? Now to work on a newspaper a four-year degree is required. I have one. They’re worthless. Everything I leaned I could have learned in six months on a newspaper.

Apparently college degrees are supposed to be filters. What they’re supposed to filter out, I don’t know. It certainly isn’t the worst, considering how many journalists are liberal idiots. As for MBAs, many of them are the publishers of newspapers (how did that happen?) and none of them saw the collapse of the Mainstream Media at the hands of the internet.

I’ve worked for MBAs from Harvard and Yale. They didn’t know what they were doing. It should be as it was in the past – people should start at the bottom and work their way up.

I am amazed at the stupidity (or is it just ignorance?) of so many college graduates. In college I once had to borrow a typewriter (yeah, a typewriter) from a girl I knew, whose father was a Political Science professor.

When I picked the typewriter up from him, he said, “The bomb is armed. Just put it next to Hitler.” I laughed. When I returned the typewriter, I told him, “The bomb went off but Hitler escaped. Now they’re after Rommel.”

His eyebrows shot up to his hairline, and he said, “I’m glad to see that not all of my daughter’s friends are political and historical ignoramuses.” Again I just laughed.

I learned about Rommel being involved in the attempted assassination of Hitler when I was 11 years old. These days, you can get a Ph.D and still never have heard of it.

Is the purpose of college to make people stupid? And of schooling (which certainly isn’t education) in general? Jefferson, Washington and Franklin had almost no “formal” schooling. They did pretty good.

I know a very old man who became a lawyer merely by passing the bar exam. He never took a law class in his life. It should be like that today.

You could close down colleges, get rid of all the degrees, and it would make no difference. Did Andrew Carnegie have a degree? Did Bill Gates? You could dump the MBA completely and the only difference is that things would get better.

If you want to be a doctor or dentist, you should be able to apply to doctor or dentist school without a degree, take the entrance exam, and see if you pass.

School, if anything, cripples many kids. Public school was boring. Even college was boring, although not as badly as what I endured before college.

Degrees don’t mean a damn thing anymore. College doesn’t, either.

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#1. To: Turtle (#0)

good piece

Is the purpose of college to make people stupid?

The purpose of college is to give white people the right attitude towards minorities and the means to live as far away from them as possible.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2011-02-17   11:41:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#1)

The purpose of college is to give white people the right attitude towards minorities and the means to live as far away from them as possible.

That's a truly funny observation.

But you have to ask yourself, although there is a lot of fluff in college curricula, can you be an accountant without studying calculus? To be an accountant you need to study finance, and to understand that subject well you have to understand how to calculate the time value of money and how the marginal revenue curve works. To understand such functions you need a bit of calculus. Similarly, a registered nurse must study physiology, and here too a little math is required. All these professional people have to be literate. They need to have a grasp of at least English grammar, and they need good writing skills in all areas of their work.

We need to take the fluff out of college. But there is a lot that is taught there that builds a person. What we don't need is training schools that just turn out a lot of robots that carry out a limited array of functions. There is a difference between training and education. Training enables workers to apply their cognitive and motor skill to perform specific tasks. Education should create actors and thinkers that can solve difficult problems. It should create better citizens, not more worker ants for the farm.

Don't dumb down education. There's plenty of dumb to go around these days as it is.

randge  posted on  2011-02-17   12:02:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: randge (#5)

To understand such functions you need a bit of calculus.

No you don't, since payments are discrete, nothing is compounded continuously, and there's no closed-form solution to the mortgage equation.

An accountant doesn't need calculus. A smart accountant though may figure out the base of the natural logarithm on his own.

Teaching an accountant calculus just gives him more exclusionary voodoo jargon to cow clients.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2011-02-17   12:14:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#7. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#6)

Teaching an accountant calculus just gives him more exclusionary voodoo jargon to cow clients.

The woman in question has an MBA in Accounting and Finance from the University of Chicago. She had to drop calculus the first time and passed it the second time.

When I asked her if she has used it, she said, "No."

I think college is a filter. But what it's supposed to filter, I still wonder.

Turtle  posted on  2011-02-17 12:19:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#6)

Strictly speaking, you are correct. People kept books and discounted notes for centuries immemorial without reference to continuous functions.

Fine. I am going to live in your America. I have no choice. It's an America where standards are constantly being lowered.

They don't lower them in Europe or Japan or China. They're beating the pants off of us.

And we deserve it.

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