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Title: 99% of Republicans Vote Against The Constitution
Source: Washington Monthly
URL Source: http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/ar ... /individual/2011_02/028006.php
Published: Feb 15, 2011
Author: Steve Benen
Post Date: 2011-02-17 17:48:56 by Original_Intent
Keywords: Constitution, Republiscum, Demoncrats, Treasonous Swine
Views: 325
Comments: 30

PATRIOT ACT CLEARS ITS HOUSE SPEED-BUMP.... Last week, the House Republican leadership brought up the reauthorization of the Patriot Act, assuming it would quickly clear the chamber. It didn't go well -- a contingent of Republicans balked and the bill fell short of the two-thirds majority it needed at the time.

Late yesterday, the House GOP had more success.

The House on Monday voted to reauthorize and extend through Dec. 8 three ways in which Congress expanded the Federal Bureau of Investigation's counterterrorism powers after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

Last week, an effort to extend these provisions of the so-called Patriot Act and a related intelligence law failed to pass after falling just short of the two-thirds' majority needed under a special rule. On Monday, however, the bill was able to pass with only a simple majority -- and it did so, 275 to 144.

Looking at the roll call, 27 Republicans broke party ranks and opposed the measure, and 65 Democrats did the opposite. In general, most Republicans supported Patriot Act reauthorization, and most Democrats opposed it. This is nearly identical to last week's vote totals, but this time, only a simple majority was needed for passage.

There was, incidentally, an interesting motion to recommit from House Democrats.

Every Member of Congress takes an oath to protect and defend the Constitution. While Members of Congress are all united in their commitment to protect our country against its enemies, they should be equally united to uphold the Constitution.

Today, Democrats offered a motion to recommit on legislation to extend expiring provisions of the PATRIOT Act to ensure that PATRIOT Act powers are not used to violate the Constitutional freedoms and protections guaranteed to all Americans. The motion included two parts:

No Constitutional shortcuts. When investigating American citizens, the government must comply with the Constitution, even in national security investigations

Challenging unconstitutional action. If a citizen challenges the government's use of PATRIOT Act power in a court of law, the case must be expedited to ensure the individual's rights are upheld.

A total of two House Republicans -- Texas' Ron Paul and North Carolina's Walter Jones -- voted for this, while 234 did not.

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#1. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Disappointing, especially when those Reps who voted for it are simply voicing their constituents wishes. Any suggestions as to how to change the minds of these no counts, government workers, military families and erstwhile government benefit sponges?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-02-17   17:58:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Original_Intent (#0)

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2011-02-17   18:05:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

Any suggestions as to how to change the minds of these no counts, government workers, military families and erstwhile government benefit sponges?

Got Hemp?

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-02-17   18:11:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#2)

Gag! How I despise the smarmy smirking little psychotic pustule.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-02-17   18:12:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Original_Intent (#0)

The system has ebb tide and flood tide but the result NEVER changes.

Trying to stem either is futile.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-02-17   18:32:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#5)

I refuse to surrender. I simply do not consider one engagement to be the war.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-02-17   18:40:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Original_Intent (#6)

I refuse to surrender. I simply do not consider one engagement to be the war.

I prefer a plan by someone to win.

There is none that I know of.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-02-17   18:42:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Cynicom (#7)

Washington had lost a good many of his engagements before that dreadful winter at Valley Forge, and then he crossed the river.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-02-17   18:44:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Original_Intent (#8)

Washington had lost a good many of his engagements before that dreadful winter at Valley Forge, and then he crossed the river.

Washington was engaged in warfare.

We are engaged in futile government bashing.

Trying to change the system from within is to play by their rules and will be futile. The Founding fathers tried that and it did not work, they FINALLY took up the musket and sword.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-02-17   18:54:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#9)

they FINALLY took up the musket and sword.

BUT, only after the Crown dispatched forces to subdue them by force.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-02-17   19:07:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#9)

Trying to change the system from within is to play by their rules and will be futile. The Founding fathers tried that and it did not work, they FINALLY took up the musket and sword.

but...Cyni, somebody might get hurt. Damn that George Washington and his revolutionary army. If he just would have hunkered down to King George we wouldn't have this problem today.

LACUMO  posted on  2011-02-17   19:25:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Original_Intent (#10)

BUT, only after the Crown dispatched forces to subdue them by force.

Splitting hairs; I see! I guess you would close the barn door after the horses got out.

Please call 1-800-876-6969. Your chains are ready!

LACUMO  posted on  2011-02-17   19:29:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Original_Intent (#4)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-02-17   19:32:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: LACUMO (#11)

Damn that George Washington and his revolutionary army.

Playing within the system is welcomed by the system. They hold all the cards, they make the rules.

Playing the futility game is exactly what the system wants, dance to their tune.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-02-17   20:19:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Original_Intent (#0)

A total of two House Republicans -- Texas' Ron Paul and North Carolina's Walter Jones -- voted for this, while 234 did not.

That is a more telling vote than the other one.


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farmfriend  posted on  2011-02-17   20:57:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: farmfriend (#15)

In a just world every one who voted against it would be removed from office.

That is a vote that is clearly contrary to their given oath.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-02-17   21:23:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Original_Intent (#6)

. I simply do not consider one engagement to be the war.

Stop being logical and start ranting & whining like the treasonous loser malcontents on this thread.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2011-02-17   21:28:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Cynicom (#14)

Playing within the system is welcomed by the system. They hold all the cards, they make the rules.

Playing the futility game is exactly what the system wants, dance to their tune.

Exactly so!

We have been aware of and have read hundreds of thousands and hundreds ofthousands of replies on this forum alone. Not one of them has done anything to stop the constant assult on our liberty. Every avenue of destruction is being used against us and many even on here refuse to accept the fact nothing will change going to the polls and helping keep the fantasy alive and well. Most don't understand the system is rigged against the masses. Voting for the lesser of two evils is what most on here love to do.

Talk is cheap. There are a lot of paper tigers on here with their tail between their legs. Talk only serves to give feedback to those who want to destroy this nation. Why is that so hard to understand? A lot of what is posted is garbage. It is insanely disgusting!

LACUMO  posted on  2011-02-17   21:31:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: LACUMO (#18)

I post this often, looking for a response. An intelligent, considered response, and never receive one, never.

Both "parties" offered Ike top spot in their `1952 presidential campaign. He "accepted" the republican offer and the democrats forced Stevenson to run a losing campaign against Ike.

Yet we have people here that are thinly veiled republicans or democrats. How or why is impossible to comprehend.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-02-17   21:52:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Cynicom (#19)

Yet we have people here that are thinly veiled republicans or democrats. How or why is impossible to comprehend.

Don't expect to change them anytime soon ever. Just like the same bankers financing both sides of the American Civil War. I venture a guess that many of them still believe there is a difference between our one party.

dumb de dumb dumb!

LACUMO  posted on  2011-02-17   22:02:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Original_Intent (#16)

In a just world every one who voted against it would be removed from office.

yep

christine  posted on  2011-02-17   22:07:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: LACUMO (#18)

Not one of them has done anything to stop the constant assult on our liberty.

tell me what you have done.

christine  posted on  2011-02-17   22:10:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Original_Intent (#0)

While it is disappointing that the Repubs still dont get it, what do we expect?
Take a read of this very forum. It's filled with posts expressing unconstitutional desires, even by people who claim to support it.
And the general public wants every ox gored, except the ones they benifit from.

What do we expect? Really?


Armadillo  posted on  2011-02-17   22:23:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: christine (#22) (Edited)

Not one of them has done anything to stop the constant assult on our liberty.

tell me what you have done.

Are you demanding I tell you? That's the way you came across.

I spend most of my time circulating videos, some of them, you tube videos and trying to inform voters about the shenanigans in government hoping they will see the light and become true patriots. I would say that the majority on these forums just like to hear themselves talk. As you well know, because I've made you aware several times, many on here are more concerned with things like who the hell won on dancing with the stars. That concern does nothing to help restore this nation. In fact, that is exactly what TPTB are hoping the helpless people are engaged in.

Some very very important threads hardly get responses.

I won't ask you the same quwstion because I know you have a full plate running this forum.

LACUMO  posted on  2011-02-17   22:31:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: LACUMO (#24)

Not one of them has done anything....circulating videos

the problem is that you come off as very degrading & dismissive of others. broadbrushing posters who you dont even know. in reality passing round videos as a remedy to tyranny could be mocked vociferously. how would you like that?

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Artisan  posted on  2011-02-17   23:51:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: All (#25)

vociferously


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wudidiz  posted on  2011-02-17   23:58:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: wudidiz (#26)

;~]

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2011-02-18   0:03:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Armadillo (#23)

What do we expect? Really?

Honor, integrity, keeping one's word. I'm old fashioned that way.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-02-18   1:15:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Original_Intent (#28)

Honor, integrity, keeping one's word. I'm old fashioned that way.

I agree, but that is in short supply everywhere.
It will not be found in any political party.


Armadillo  posted on  2011-02-18   2:45:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Cynicom (#19)

How or why is impossible to comprehend.

My opinion? They can’t/won’t admit they have ignored the obvious. That ONE event, the 1952 offer of running for the presidency from both parties, SHOULD be sufficient for voters to see what was taking place.

How is it possible that 60 years plus later we still think we have a two party system? Either a total lack of knowledge of our own history or the refusal to accept what is fact. And we wonder how we got here from there? Pretty obvious to me.

Phant2000  posted on  2011-02-18   9:54:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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