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Title: Open Carry Vs Gun Control (California style!!)
Source: YT
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXk7 ... feature=player_embedded#at=214
Published: Feb 14, 2011
Author: Avisualrecord
Post Date: 2011-02-21 13:25:36 by X-15
Ping List: *Shooters*     Subscribe to *Shooters*
Keywords: guns, Second Amendment
Views: 436
Comments: 43


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#3. To: Artisan (#2)

Ken James, police chief of the 1.2 square mile city of Emeryville, California, is appearing everywhere he can to advocate greater control by the state. "Guns are a threat. Uh, We don't know who ha- who they are, uh, and they, have the, the potential to be a danger a deadly danger to anybody", James muttered during a recent tv news interview.

I think he should set an example and start by disarming his entire police department. People don't need guns, right?

I'd wager there are more people killed each year by shots fired by police than by private citizens.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-02-21   13:45:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: X-15 (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-02-21   13:54:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: X-15 (#0)

Good to learn that there's one right-thinking citizen out there.

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-02-21   14:02:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Artisan, Eric Stratton, X-15 (#2)

I got this reply from a "friend" on facebook. He has defriended me which is fine since I was going to do that after his reply. This guy has shown himself to be a neocon and now this.

Maggie, once again, you've shown your ignorance. This video makes a good argument for gun control. Only a couple of people interviewed wanted to make guns illegal. Most just wanted gun CONTROL, so it's harder for people who shouldn't have them, to be able to get them. A reasonable position, unless you're a crook. Nobody wants to take your arsenal away. However you have earned yourself a "delete" button salute from your truly. "Unfriend" reason: stupidity.


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2011-02-21   14:05:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: farmfriend (#6)

Nobody wants to take your arsenal away.

Famous last words, eh?? No loss there, you're better off not having that source of negativity in your life.

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X-15  posted on  2011-02-21   14:28:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: farmfriend (#6)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-02-21   14:44:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: X-15 (#7)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-02-21   14:45:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: farmfriend (#6)

It is almost a uniformly predictable reaction. Supporters of Gun "Control" NEVER EVER will look at any evidence contrary to their view - which underscores the irrational fears that form the real basis for their motivation. A person interested in understanding and coming to a rational decision on something will look at all the evidence and decide based on what the evidence says instead of making up reasons as to why their irrational fears are logical.

Ultimately though their irrational fears extend not just to gun control but people control and ordering other people's lives to suit their irrational prejudices in other ways. The thought (((((shudder)))))) of people having guns without government permission, which is what Gun "Control" is, frightens them. After all they might do something else the government does not permit.

So, their solution to their irrational fears is the granting to the government the power to determine who can and cannot own a firearm, but again it is a general mania for control that if you watch them extends into other areas - where their arguments are just as irrational. They have their media indoctrinated point of view and are convinced that anyone who says otherwise is some sort of nefarious kook who belongs to the Freemen. After all Fox/CNN/See BS/ABC/NBC told them so. And we all know that TEE BEE is the best place to get reliable information.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-02-21   14:53:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Eric Stratton (#8)

Here was my reply to him.

first of all Aubre I don't own a gun let a lone an arsenal. Second gun control does not make it harder for criminals to get guns. It only makes it harder for private citizens to get them. As for unfriending me, go ahead. Your lack of constitutional understanding puts you in the ignorance class not me.


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2011-02-21   15:10:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: X-15 (#7)

No loss there, you're better off not having that source of negativity in your life.

agreed.


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2011-02-21   15:27:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: farmfriend (#11)

first of all Aubre

Aubre is a man? Somehow that strikes me as humorous. Methinks his mother demonstrated some valid woman's intuition in naming her son.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

abraxas  posted on  2011-02-21   15:38:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: abraxas (#13)

LOL


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2011-02-21   15:39:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: abraxas (#13)

He is one of those who think we have to protect Israel at all costs because they are God's chosen people.


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2011-02-21   15:40:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: X-15 (#0)

Sheesh, I guarantee if Oakland went open carry crime would drop. This video was painful to watch and listen. The ignorance of these people is appalling.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

abraxas  posted on  2011-02-21   15:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: farmfriend (#15)

He is one of those who think we have to protect Israel at all costs because they are God's chosen people.

I think he should go to Israel asap.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

abraxas  posted on  2011-02-21   15:43:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: farmfriend, shooters, 4 (#11)

Second gun control does not make it harder for criminals to get guns. It only makes it harder for private citizens to get them. As for unfriending me, go ahead. Your lack of constitutional understanding puts you in the ignorance class not me.

What a mullet.

I'm having a good time passing out fliers for 2ASisters.org and the training session 12 March.

It's a great chance for ladies to learn about handguns, both classroom and range time, or to simply practice the skills that they already have.

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-02-21   15:46:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: farmfriend (#11)

first of all Aubre I don't own a gun let a lone an arsenal. Second gun control does not make it harder for criminals to get guns. It only makes it harder for private citizens to get them. As for unfriending me, go ahead. Your lack of constitutional understanding puts you in the ignorance class not me.

Way too nice !

Should have said: Hey Aubre, please don't unfriend me. I don't even own a gun. Meet me for a picnic at the OK Corral and we'll "talk" !

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt." - Essay in the Public Advertiser, 1749 - Samuel Adams

noone222  posted on  2011-02-21   15:49:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Lod (#18)

I'm having a good time passing out fliers for 2ASisters.org and the training session 12 March.

It's a great chance for ladies

You dog !

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt." - Essay in the Public Advertiser, 1749 - Samuel Adams

noone222  posted on  2011-02-21   15:50:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: noone222 (#20)

Yes, there's that, from time to time.

The age range is 10-75.

Interesting groups.

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-02-21   15:57:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: farmfriend (#11)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-02-21   15:57:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: abraxas (#13)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-02-21   15:58:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Lod (#21)

The age range is 10-75.

8 to 80 ... blind, crippled or crazy ...

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt." - Essay in the Public Advertiser, 1749 - Samuel Adams

noone222  posted on  2011-02-21   16:04:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: X-15, all (#0)

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

abraxas  posted on  2011-02-21   16:06:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: abraxas, shooters, 4 (#25)

One of the first things that my mother did when they moved out to a rural setting, was to obtain a sidearm and proper training in using it.

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-02-21   16:17:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: noone222, Lod, farmfriend, abraxas, CadetD (#20)

I'm having a good time passing out fliers for 2ASisters.org and the training session 12 March.

It's a great chance for ladies

You dog !

It's a great chance for ladies you guys.

There, fixed it.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-02-21   16:20:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: farmfriend (#15)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-02-21   16:24:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Original_Intent, noone222, shooters, 4 (#27)

The only guys allowed are the ranch owner, who is also the range master, and the range trainers/assistants.

No husbands or BFs.

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-02-21   16:26:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Lod (#29)

The only guys allowed are the ranch owner, who is also the range master, and the range trainers/assistants.

No husbands or BFs.

Puuuurrrrfect !

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt." - Essay in the Public Advertiser, 1749 - Samuel Adams

noone222  posted on  2011-02-21   16:32:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Original_Intent (#27)

There, fixed it.

They probably have to have a few drinks before actual target practice in case any of the gals is a little nervous !

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt." - Essay in the Public Advertiser, 1749 - Samuel Adams

noone222  posted on  2011-02-21   16:33:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Lod, noone222, shooters, 4 (#29)

The only guys allowed are the ranch owner, who is also the range master, and the range trainers/assistants.

No husbands or BFs.

Maybeso, but handing out the flyers in and of itself presents a legitimate opportunity for "conversation".

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-02-21   16:35:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: noone222 (#31)

They probably have to have a few drinks before actual target practice in case any of the gals is a little nervous !

Absolutely, you wouldn't want them to be troubled by nerves, not to mention they might need a "practice partner" for later. ;-)

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-02-21   16:37:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: noone222 (#31)

10:30am is a tad early, even for me.

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-02-21   16:43:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Original_Intent, noone222, shooters, 4 (#33)

This gives me the idea of taking some fliers to the gentlemen's clubs here.

I guess that the artists have a bulletin-board in their costuming room.

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-02-21   16:50:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Lod (#35)

This gives me the idea of taking some fliers to the gentlemen's clubs here.

I guess that the artists have a bulletin-board in their costuming room.

Innovative and "patriotic" too !

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt." - Essay in the Public Advertiser, 1749 - Samuel Adams

noone222  posted on  2011-02-21   16:54:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Eric Stratton (#4)

In closing: Ladies and gentlemen, meet a good chunk of your first round of victims in the impending major "civil unrest."

The 911 operators will be busy busy busy! lol

Stupid should hurt. And it will.

.


Click for Privacy and Preparedness files

Niggers ruin everything.

PSUSA  posted on  2011-02-21   16:54:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Lod (#35)

I guess that the artists have a bulletin-board in their costuming room.

Among other things.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-02-21   16:59:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: PSUSA (#37)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-02-21   19:16:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: farmfriend (#6)

Wow. He thinks "people who shouldn't have them" will obey gun laws, and calls you "stupid".
LOL.


Armadillo  posted on  2011-02-21   20:03:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Lod (#18)

2ASisters.org

I'm an honorary lifetime member. The good news is they promised me I don't have to ever wear a skirt. ;)


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Critter  posted on  2011-02-21   20:33:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Armadillo (#40)

that's kinda what I got out of it as well. no big loss I think.


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2011-02-21   22:04:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Critter (#41)

I'm an honorary lifetime member. The good news is they promised me I don't have to ever wear a skirt.

Fuck around all that you want.

But don't fuck with this.

Thanks.

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-02-21   22:52:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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