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Title: House Republicans attempt to revive Real ID
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Published: Mar 6, 2011
Author: Declan McCullagh
Post Date: 2011-03-06 03:06:49 by farmfriend
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by Declan McCullagh If you're a resident of one of at least 24 states including Arizona, Georgia, and Washington, your driver's license may no longer be valid for boarding an airplane or entering federal buildings as of May 11, 2011. That's the deadline that senior House Republicans are calling on the Obama administration to impose, saying states must be required to comply with so-called Real ID rules creating a standardized digital identity card that critics have likened to a national ID. The political problem for the GOP committee chairmen is that the 2005 Real ID Act has proven to be anything but popular: legislatures of two dozen states have voted to reject its requirements, and in the Michigan and Pennsylvania legislatures one chamber has done so. That didn't stop the House Republicans from saying in a letter this week to Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano that "any further extension of Real ID threatens the security of the United States." Unless Homeland Security grants an extension, the law's requirements take effect on May 11. "If they don't, people won't be able to use their driver's licenses to get on airplanes," says Molly Ramsdell, who oversees state-federal affairs for the National Conference of State Legislatures. "They can use a military ID. They can use some other federal ID. But they won't be able to use a driver's license." (See CNET's FAQ.) The situation represents a setback to Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner (R-Wisc.), who championed Real ID as a way to identify terrorists and criminals. But instead of what supporters hoped would be a seamless shift to a nationalized ID card, the requirements have created a confusing patchwork of state responses--with some legislatures forbidding their motor vehicle administration from participating--and could herald chaos at airports unrivaled by any other recent change to federal law. Sensenbrenner and two colleagues, House Judiciary Chairman Lamar Smith (R-Texas) and Homeland Security Chairman Peter King (R-N.Y.), said in their letter that "until Real ID is fully implemented, terrorists will continue to exploit this vulnerability to accomplish heinous purposes. The "importance of the immediate implementation of Real ID" is paramount, they said, and warned Napolitano not to extend the May 11 deadline. If Napolitano does not, air travelers from non-Real ID states would at least be subjected to what Homeland Security delicately calls "delays" and "enhanced security screening," or perhaps even be denied boarding. In addition, driver's licenses from non-Real ID states could no longer be used to access "federal facilities," including military academies, the Pentagon, Treasury Department, the U.S. Capitol, Veterans Affairs hospitals, and some federal courthouses. "Individuals with a driver's license from a state that is not materially compliant with Real ID would need to go through a secondary screening" at airports, Wendy Riemann, Sensenbrenner's communications director, told CNET yesterday. "I'm told this is what happens now if you were on vacation and lost your wallet and had to board a plane." Riemann declined to answer what would happen inside federal buildings and courthouses, saying "I'm not about to get into hypotheticals." From the House Republicans' perspective, the rules are clear: Real ID was signed on May 11, 2005, by President Bush, and federal agencies have had nearly six years to comply. The vote in Congress was overwhelmingly in favor of the law, part of a broader "war on terror" spending and tsunami relief bill that was approved unanimously by the Senate and by a vote of 368 to 58 in the House of Representatives. (Real ID cleared the House by a 261 to 161 vote as a standalone bill without hearings or debate.) Since its enactment, its backers have been aggressively defending Real ID, noting that many of the hijackers on September 11, 2001, were able to fraudulently obtain U.S. driver's licenses. Because Real ID links state DMV databases, establishes a standard bar code that can be digitally scanned, and mandates that original documents such as birth certificates be verified, backers claim the benefits extend beyond antiterror and ID fraud cases. (Extending it to firearm and prescription drug sales has not been ruled out.) Many state governments have seen it differently and have responded by flatly refusing to abide by the federal requirements on privacy, federalism, and funding grounds. What started in early 2006 with a revolt in New Hampshire morphed into a full-scale rebellion, with dozens of states adoption opting out. A chart (PDF) updated last month by the National Conference of State Legislatures lists 16 states with laws forbidding compliance with Real ID and eight states including Colorado, Hawaii, and Illinois that have enacted resolutions opposing it. NCSL's Ramsdell says, however, that those numbers are a low estimate. "The question is: How many states DHS has deemed to be in compliance? At this point the answer is none," she says. Complicating the situation is that, during the Bush administration, Homeland Security was an unabashed champion of Real ID. But under the Obama administration, the department has been far less effusive in its support of the law, and Napolitano has been quoted as talking about repealing Real ID in hopes of replacing it with something that "accomplishes some of the same goals." (As Arizona governor, Napolitano signed a law forbidding the state from complying with Real ID.) Another delay is what Sensenbrenner, Smith, and King are worried about--which is effectively what happened just before a May 11, 2008, deadline. Their letter argues that last week's arrest in Texas of Khalid Aldawsari on charges of attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction "underscores the importance" of implementing Real ID immediately. A criminal complaint (PDF) against Aldawsari alleges that he created a "synopsis of important steps" that included obtaining a forged U.S. birth certificate and obtaining a driver's license. Those documents could be used to rent cars and place explosives. But there's no evidence Aldawsari actually began the process of obtaining fraudulent documents or would have succeeded. The practical difficulties of implementing Real ID in only 10 weeks makes the House Republicans' letter political posturing, says Jim Harper, director of information policy studies at the libertarian Cato Institute. "Real ID was an unserious law, passed without a hearing in the House or Senate," Harper said. "This is an unserious letter, sent without regard for the consequences if the DHS did what they ask."
House Republicans attempt to revive Real ID
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#1. To: farmfriend (#0)
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24 states... Do you really think banning half the population of the nation from traveling and entering federal buildings is going to fly. Someone will file for a injunction in federal court and a federal judge will invalidate the Real ID act. Funny Georgia is mentioned in the article. Georgia has the busiest airport in the nation in Atlanta. If the feds try to bar Georgians from using their own airport, you will find that airport quickly shutdown until the issue is resolved. This is like the seven years of tit for tat between the British Colonies and England. The tea tax was put in place just to piss off the colonists. And we eventually had a revolution.
I know California has already in compliance with most if not all of it.
The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.
Don't ignore the point I am making.
I'm not.
The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.
Don't you think it's about time (like you ain't getting any younger -duh) that we give up on the losers in CONgress and do our own thing for awhile ? Those people in D.C. are either assholes, or incompetents. They do not deserve our attention span for a micro-mini-second but they've managed to drag us around by the short hairs for a hundred fucking years ... just say NO for a change. Fuck their driver's license - AND - the FEDERAL RESERVE SCAM - taxing the internet - the draft - surveillance cameras everywhere - war 24/7/365 - year around school (that teaches nothing) - NATIONAL I.D. (for every illegal) - fire all dual citizens in D.C. and watch the deficit disappear !!! C'mon, quit being a bunch of compliant dipshits ... this is our country !!! Flush D.C. - it's just a shithole filled with shitheads and shit-eaters that steal your money, kill your kids, and retire with more money and benefits than God ever had in mind for man. Don't be a dunce and do it more than once - Don't fall for Ron Paul !!!
"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt." - Essay in the Public Advertiser, 1749 - Samuel Adams
Once upon a time we were all innocent. We had a sponge like brain and 100% trust in everyone ... but we were violated continuously by liars, perverts, murderers and thieves from the initial moment of our earthly existence. One of those major lies was that we have some bullshit obligation to Washington D.C., George Washington, and the CONstipation. They (the D.C. Asshats) stuck that dufas proposition into your nearly empty head while you were still gnawing on a pacifier ... ya know - like before the Santa Claus lie. That's right, the perps even convinced your parents to lie and that it was in your best interest to be logged into the FEDERAL slave data base - yee haww - and you were still shittin green ! Now this thread is about the REAL I.D. ACT - hahahahaha - and we're to believe that the asshats in D.C. have a RIGHT to obligate us to obtain one or else ... or else what ? Or else we won't be able to enter a FEDERAL facility such as a FEDERAL COURTHOUSE - OK, I'm sure I'll regret it and I'll really miss FEDERAL COURT - but keep your stinking dog tags !!! I ain't no cow that needs to be tagged - are you ? (Maybe you are if you're sucking off of Uncle Sambo's left nut !) If D.C. ever made a mistake in our favor I'd be tempted to submit to their jurisdiction (really "not") - but they don't. When they make a mistake - who pays ? I'm 60 years old and Im really tired of the FEDERAL DICK that's been totally focused upon forced entry into my virgin rectum for the entirety of MY LIFE. That's right - it's my life regardless of the mountain of bullshit that's been spoon-fed to me since birth. Uncle Sambo can kiss my RED-WHITE and BLUE ASS ! I don't need no stinkin badges or National I.D. card - I haven't had an I.D. of any kind for 20 freaking years ... so now I'm supposed to think I can't live without one ?
"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt." - Essay in the Public Advertiser, 1749 - Samuel Adams
Well yeah, that would be both harble and tarble! I sure would hate it if I couldn't go into a Federal Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. You are one ornery old coot, aintcha? :) I wished we lived closer, I'd love to have a beer with you and talk subversion. hehehe
If you're a resident of one of at least 24 states including Arizona, Georgia, and Washington, your driver's license may no longer be valid for boarding an airplane or entering federal buildings as of May 11, 2011.
#2. To: PaulCJ (#1)
#3. To: farmfriend (#2)
I know California has already in compliance with most if not all of it.
#4. To: PaulCJ (#3)
#5. To: farmfriend (#0)
#6. To: farmfriend (#0)
#7. To: noone222 (#6)
Now this thread is about the REAL I.D. ACT - hahahahaha - and we're to believe that the asshats in D.C. have a RIGHT to obligate us to obtain one or else ... or else what ? Or else we won't be able to enter a FEDERAL facility such as a FEDERAL COURTHOUSE - OK, I'm sure I'll regret it and I'll really miss FEDERAL COURT - but keep your stinking dog tags !!!
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#8. To: noone222 (#6)
I'm 60 years old and Im really tired of the FEDERAL DICK that's been totally focused upon forced entry into my virgin rectum for the entirety of MY LIFE.
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#9. To: Critter (#8)
I'd certainly be agreeable to that !
I wished we lived closer, I'd love to have a beer with you and talk subversion. hehehe
"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt." - Essay in the Public Advertiser, 1749 - Samuel Adams
#10. To: farmfriend, 4 (#0)
I had to stop with the insanity there. The sponsors of any terror are no further than your local feeb office.
..."until Real ID is fully implemented, terrorists will continue to exploit this vulnerability to accomplish heinous purposes."
Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.
#11. To: farmfriend (#0)
Anything Peter King signs off on is anti-American.
#12. To: Lod (#10)
These guys need to shut their yaps. There's just too much heinous stuff going on around the planet stamped "Made in USA."
..."until Real ID is fully implemented, terrorists will continue to exploit this vulnerability to accomplish heinous purposes."
It is a violation of Natural Law to use this document in a manner inconsistent with its labeling.
#13. To: randge, 4, watch this from Chile (#12)
Amen, and the rest of the world knows it.
Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.
#14. To: farmfriend (#0) (Edited)
They must be daffy! You've heard of the "Mark of the Beast"?
That's the deadline that senior House Republicans are calling on the Obama administration to impose, saying states must be required to comply with so-called Real ID rules creating a standardized digital identity card that critics have likened to a national ID.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
#15. To: farmfriend (#0)
2. Homeland Security 1. They must be nuts! 2. That, btw, is Homeland Insecurity!
1. That's the deadline that senior House Republicans are calling on the Obama administration to impose, saying states must be required to comply with so-called Real ID rules creating a standardized digital identity card that critics have likened to a national ID.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
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