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Title: America's secret plan to arm Libya's rebels - Obama asks Saudis to airlift weapons into Benghazi
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The Independent
URL Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w ... arm-libyas-rebels-2234227.html
Published: Mar 7, 2011
Author: Robert Fiske
Post Date: 2011-03-06 19:24:46 by Phant2000
Keywords: None
Views: 171
Comments: 13
Desperate to avoid US military involvement in Libya in the event of a prolonged struggle between the Gaddafi regime and its opponents, the Americans have asked Saudi Arabia if it can supply weapons to the rebels in Benghazi. The Saudi Kingdom, already facing a "day of rage" from its 10 per cent Shia Muslim community on Friday, with a ban on all demonstrations, has so far failed to respond to Washington's highly classified request, although King Abdullah personally loathes the Libyan leader, who tried to assassinate him just over a year ago. Washington's request is in line with other US military co-operation with the Saudis. The royal family in Jeddah, which was deeply involved in the Contra scandal during the Reagan administration, gave immediate support to American efforts to arm guerrillas fighting the Soviet army in Afghanistan in 1980 and later – to America's chagrin – also funded and armed the Taliban. But the Saudis remain the only US Arab ally strategically placed and capable of furnishing weapons to the guerrillas of Libya. Their assistance would allow Washington to disclaim any military involvement in the supply chain – even though the arms would be American and paid for by the Saudis. The Saudis have been told that opponents of Gaddafi need anti-tank rockets and mortars as a first priority to hold off attacks by Gaddafi's armour, and ground-to-air missiles to shoot down his fighter-bombers. Supplies could reach Benghazi within 48 hours but they would need to be delivered to air bases in Libya or to Benghazi airport. If the guerrillas can then go on to the offensive and assault Gaddafi's strongholds in western Libya, the political pressure on America and Nato – not least from Republican members of Congress – to establish a no-fly zone would be reduced. US military planners have already made it clear that a zone of this kind would necessitate US air attacks on Libya's functioning, if seriously depleted, anti-aircraft missile bases, thus bringing Washington directly into the war on the side of Gaddafi's opponents. For several days now, US Awacs surveillance aircraft have been flying around Libya, making constant contact with Malta air traffic control and requesting details of Libyan flight patterns, including journeys made in the past 48 hours by Gaddafi's private jet which flew to Jordan and back to Libya just before the weekend. Officially, Nato will only describe the presence of American Awacs planes as part of its post-9/11 Operation Active Endeavour, which has broad reach to undertake aerial counter-terrorism measures in the Middle East region. The data from the Awacs is streamed to all Nato countries under the mission's existing mandate. Now that Gaddafi has been reinstated as a super-terrorist in the West's lexicon, however, the Nato mission can easily be used to search for targets of opportunity in Libya if active military operations are undertaken. Al Jazeera English television channel last night broadcast recordings made by American aircraft to Maltese air traffic control, requesting information about Libyan flights, especially that of Gaddafi's jet. An American Awacs aircraft, tail number LX-N90442 could be heard contacting the Malta control tower on Saturday for information about a Libyan Dassault-Falcon 900 jet 5A-DCN on its way from Amman to Mitiga, Gaddafi's own VIP airport. Nato Awacs 07 is heard to say: "Do you have information on an aircraft with the Squawk 2017 position about 85 miles east of our [sic]?" Malta air traffic control replies: "Seven, that sounds to be Falcon 900- at flight level 340, with a destination Mitiga, according to flight plan." But Saudi Arabia is already facing dangers from a co-ordinated day of protest by its own Shia Muslim citizens who, emboldened by the Shia uprising in the neighbouring island of Bahrain, have called for street protests against the ruling family of al-Saud on Friday. After pouring troops and security police into the province of Qatif last week, the Saudis announced a nationwide ban on all public demonstrations. Shia organisers claim that up to 20,000 protesters plan to demonstrate with women in the front rows to prevent the Saudi army from opening fire. If the Saudi government accedes to America's request to send guns and missiles to Libyan rebels, however, it would be almost impossible for President Barack Obama to condemn the kingdom for any violence against the Shias of the north-east provinces. Thus has the Arab awakening, the demand for democracy in North Africa, the Shia revolt and the rising against Gaddafi become entangled in the space of just a few hours with US military priorities in the region.
Saudi Arabia has not yet responded to a request from the US to supply weapons to rebels in Libya
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#1. To: Phant2000 (#0)
Obama like Carter is a man in way over his head when crunch time arrives. We need a quick response, get in, take out their government and leave, Gaffafi must go.
We need a quick response, get in, take out their government and leave, Gaffafi must go. You are right in both statements. It is very frustrating to sit and watch that ninconpoop go golfing and "waiting" for an answer to his request to Saudi Arabia that they supply the Libyan rebels with artillery. It doesn't speak well of his handlers, either.
I thought Israel already rushed in with the weapons to keep Gaddafi in power.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
I thought so, Too, ab, but I haven't been able to confirm that. For that matter, beyond this article in The Independent, buckwheat refuses to confirm that he went golfing today. I wanted to ask him if he was working in conjunction with the joos, but he is being evasive. That is said with tongue in cheek, but is probably closer to the truth than poetry. Our POTUS AND his handlers are living in a sandbox. What a disgrace.
The Saudi royals are against the rebellion in Libya. I honestly don't know if Obama is ignorant of this, or trying to destroy the rebellion in Libya.
I think you are right, that he wants to destroy the rebellion. If buckwheat doesn't himself know that the Saudis are against the rebellion, his handlers do, and I'm sure he will give an announcement that, "I will defer to the Saudis on this problem. They are better experienced with the problems of the area." Done, over with and he and his evildoers can wipe their hands of it. It is a shame. I sit in my living room, all comfortable, reading the different reports of the Libyan rebels and even getting interviews of some of them by live stream. It makes me sick to think we can't at least send them some damned guns or rockets. On the other hand, buckwheat and his handlers are no doubt watching how Gaddafi is handling the rebels and taking notes for future use on how to handle us sheep.
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Done, over with and he and his evildoers can wipe their hands of it. It is a shame. I sit in my living room, all comfortable, reading the different reports of the Libyan rebels and even getting interviews of some of them by live stream. It makes me sick to think we can't at least send them some damned guns or rockets. On the other hand, buckwheat and his handlers are no doubt watching how Gaddafi is handling the rebels and taking notes for future use on how to handle us sheep. The good news is that Libyan rebels are holding their own and are winning more often than losing. The elitists plans for the world have probably already gone off the rails and they are playing catch up to try to get a handle on things and it is not working for them.
I so hope you are right. As for the rebels, they have a HUGE battle upwards to beat that crazy bastard Gaddafi. I hope God is on their side.
Goddafi is nuts. He is ko-ko insane. The crazier he acts out the less support he has. I would not be surprised if the Libyan military finally decides to just cut him loose. The Libya people are angry at Goddafi, and that anger is not so much directed yet at the military.
I would love to see the Libyan military decide to cut him and his family loose.
Am I wrong or are the Anglo-Americans and Izzy lining up on opposite sides of this thing??
It is a violation of Natural Law to use this document in a manner inconsistent with its labeling.
In some cases, I believe you are correct. However, those rebels now doing the fighting in Libya have asked for OUR help ... not that of other Izzies.
#2. To: Cynicom (#1)
(Edited)
Obama like Carter is a man in way over his head when crunch time arrives.
#3. To: Phant2000 (#0)
#4. To: abraxas (#3)
I thought Israel already rushed in with the weapons to keep Gaddafi in power.
#5. To: Phant2000 (#0)
America's secret plan to arm Libya's rebels - Obama asks Saudis to airlift weapons into Benghazi
#6. To: PaulCJ (#5)
I honestly don't know if Obama is ignorant of this, or trying to destroy the rebellion in Libya.
#7. To: Phant2000 (#6)
taking notes for future use on how to handle us sheep.
#8. To: Phant2000 (#6)
I think you are right, that he wants to destroy the rebellion. If buckwheat doesn't himself know that the Saudis are against the rebellion, his handlers do, and I'm sure he will give an announcement that, "I will defer to the Saudis on this problem. They are better experienced with the problems of the area."
#9. To: PaulCJ (#8)
The elitists plans for the world have probably already gone off the rails and they are playing catch up to try to get a handle on things and it is not working for them.
#10. To: Phant2000 (#9)
As for the rebels, they have a HUGE battle upwards to beat that crazy bastard Gaddafi.
#11. To: PaulCJ (#10)
The Libya people are angry at Goddafi, and that anger is not so much directed yet at the military.
#12. To: Phant2000 (#11)
#13. To: randge (#12)
Am I wrong or are the Anglo-Americans and Izzy lining up on opposite sides of this thing??
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