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Title: US Gov't Attorneys: Providing a List of Charges to Those on Terror Lists 'Extremely Burdensome'
Source: e-list
URL Source: http://www.activistpost.com/2011/03 ... providing-list-of-charges.html
Published: Mar 9, 2011
Author: Activist Post
Post Date: 2011-03-09 22:19:52 by CadetD
Keywords: phoney, war, on, terror
Views: 101
Comments: 5

Defense lawyers for organizations on the U.S. government's "terror list" are frustrated fighting the designation, and seizure of assets in many cases, because the government claims it is too tedious to give an explanation of the charges. "It would be extremely burdensome to give a list of charges," said the government's attorney, Douglas Letter, the Associated Press reported today:

Attorneys for the U.S. government told a federal appeals court Wednesday that informing each person and organization listed as a global terrorist of the reasons they are so designated would be too much work.

They made the argument in a case involving the government's seizure of assets belonging to the U.S. chapter of Al Haramain Islamic Foundation Inc., a Saudi Arabia-based charity. The case is being heard by a three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

Al Haramain attorney David Cole said outside court that representatives of Al Haramain were left in the dark after the organization was put on the global terrorist list. They continued to fight the designation without knowing what was driving it.

Cole said he and other attorneys could have provided a much more effective defense for the organization if they knew the reasons for the charges.

Organizations that are arbitrarily placed on the terror list who have their assets frozen are finding the burden of proof to be on them. Yet, they don't even know what they are supposed to prove given the lack of detailed charges.

In a previous case, U.S. Judge, Gary Karr, ruled that freezing the assets of organizations suspected of terrorist ties has been done without due process by the Treasury Department. However, he also ruled that the "Treasury Department Office of Foreign Assets Control needed only a reasonable belief that the charity was a component of a larger organization that funds terrorism" to take action.

This erosion of due process and reversal of burden of proof, along with Obama's recent Executive Order to detain suspected terrorists indefinitely, are troubling signs for the "Land of the Free."

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"It would be extremely burdensome to give a list of charges"

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#1. To: CadetD (#0)

No shit.

Can you give us one, or maybe two, provable charges?

Thanks a lot for lightening your burden, a-holes.

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-03-09   22:31:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Lod (#1)

No shit.

Can you give us one, or maybe two, provable charges?

Thanks a lot for lightening your burden, a-holes.

Remember when the CIA and FBI said right after 9-11 how the problem was "how they weren't talking to each other"? So, we get Homeland Security Agency police-state monitoring.

CadetD  posted on  2011-03-09   23:29:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: CadetD (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-03-09   23:50:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: CadetD (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-03-09   23:52:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: CadetD (#0)

However, he also ruled that the "Treasury Department Office of Foreign Assets Control needed only a reasonable belief that the charity was a component of a larger organization that funds terrorism" to take action.

I have a reasonable belief that the gov't is a terrorist organization, but it is too tedious to give a list of charges.

I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant

angK  posted on  2011-03-10   0:46:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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