Title: Nullification: Turning the Tables Source:
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The box needs to be crushed to the ground and set on fire…”
While I do not challenge Mr. Wood's intentions I think it's important to point out the reason he's wrong.
All of his arguments are moot until this country learns to live without dependence upon the fiat (Constitution destroying) currency.
Until Constitutional "Money" is restored there is NO CONSTITUTION. If the Constitution at Article 1 section 10 is violated or ignored the rest of the Constitution can be as well.
Article I, Section 10, Clause 1 states in relevant part:
No State shall make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts.
HERE is the critical point. The Constitution restrains the Government from interfering with "contracts".
Contracts can be explicit or implicit. So the Constitution allows you and I to deviate away from the use of Constitutional money by using COMMERCIAL PAPER or fiat currency and credit, BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT, when we do we also deviate out of the common-law Constitutional protections and into COMMERCIAL LAW that affords mere statutory privileges.
NONE of the Amendments or so-called STATES RIGHTS provisions mean anything in a legal setting under commercial law. Common law and commercial law do not recognize each other nor can you have a little of each.
Until guys like Mr. Wood realize that the CHOICE OF CURRENCY / MONEY equals the CHOICE OF LAW they will continue to flail away at shadows and NEVER STRIKE THE ROOT. The STATES themselves MAKE OTHER THINGS payable for debt in direct violation of Article 1 section 10 of the Constitution. (Have you ever paid a State fine in Gold or Silver ?)
The box needs to be crushed to the ground and set on fire…”
The ROOT (Box) is the FED RESERVE and it must be destroyed before the Constitution or Bill of Rights have any effect !
"What is required is the abolition of the Federal Reserve and its insidious control over the economic life of America. Instead of tax bills, the bankers and their hirelings need to be served with court summons. The bankers should be charged with financial crimes against humanity, not tax avoidance. " - Kurt Nimmo -2011
The ROOT (Box) is the FED RESERVE and it must be destroyed before the Constitution or Bill of Rights have any effect !
I agree that the Fed Res needs to be abolished but it doesn't have the power to nullify our Constitution. Our government at the Federal level is not bound to gold and silver only as legal tender for debts, just the states. Gold and silver have value as mediums of exchange only because people believe they do but their values can be manipulated downward or upward to our disadvantage. I doubt that the Founders intended for the states or us to go into the gold and silver mining businesses or perish. No government "officials" are empowered to violate the General Welfare clause by forcing us into "contracted" debt slavery to the Fed Res corporation. We the People are not prohibited from our own currency system and I'm guessing Woods knows that, so he is more focused on other Constitutional issues of importance. We accrue value all week, every minute we work, but employers get the "privilege" of holding it back from us until they're done collecting interest on it or whatever all week, for two weeks, for a month or whenever they say we can have it. The point is that something of value was already produced through our efforts. It should not be considered "fiat" money created out of thin air like the Fed Res does just because we might be paid at some point with a paper paycheck or certificate. It's not the paper that has value or not, it's the actual contribution of work that it represents. We have lots of problems to tackle from governmentals running amok here through the centuries but nobody should be suffering for lack of available gold or silver.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I agree that the Fed Res needs to be abolished but it doesn't have the power to nullify our Constitution.
That's your opinion ... and if true why were all United States' debts paid in gold clear up until Nixon was President. "It" only usurps the Constitution with our consent to ("borrow it") use the FED RESERVE'S PROPERTY and abide by the laws that govern COMMERCIAL PAPER, which are Maritime / Admiralty or Law of the Sea - "LAW MERCHANT".
We the People are not prohibited from our own currency system
This accurate.
"What is required is the abolition of the Federal Reserve and its insidious control over the economic life of America. Instead of tax bills, the bankers and their hirelings need to be served with court summons. The bankers should be charged with financial crimes against humanity, not tax avoidance. " - Kurt Nimmo -2011
if true why were all United States' debts paid in gold clear up until Nixon was President. "It" only usurps the Constitution with our consent to ("borrow it") use the FED RESERVE'S PROPERTY and abide by the laws that govern COMMERCIAL PAPER, which are Maritime / Admiralty or Law of the Sea - "LAW MERCHANT".
If I had a penny for everytime someone within our government acted knowingly or not in violation of our Constitution, I might be the richest person in the world. Yes, they've constructed lots of schemes and farces that they hope we don't call BS because then the jig is up for them and their scamming sham- system. What's oddest about it to me is that the very people who object the most strenuously to their paper-chains are usually the very ones that insist on giving credence to all of their inky rigamarole and malicious antics as somehow overriding the Constitution. It doesn't. They're outlaws. Doesn't matter if they point to some "Maritime hat" on their head. That just makes them Pirates too, imo.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
If I had a penny for everytime someone within our government acted knowingly or not in violation of our Constitution, I might be the richest person in the world. Yes, they've constructed lots of schemes and farces that they hope we don't call BS because then the jig is up for them and their scamming sham- system. What's oddest about it to me is that the very people who object the most strenuously to their paper-chains are usually the very ones that insist on giving credence to all of their inky rigamarole and malicious antics as somehow overriding the Constitution. It doesn't. They're outlaws. Doesn't matter if they point to some "Maritime hat" on their head. That just makes them Pirates too, imo.
While you IMMEDIATELY admit that the Constitution is repeatedly ignored and violated (violated is your term) that's really not quite the case. The REALITY is that their COMMERCIAL LAW ZONE is a completely separate jurisdiction where the Constitution has no effect, and therefore they're not violating it.
The 20th Century has passed us by and still ("victims") dogs return to their own vomit. A dog is a dumb animal that doesn't rationalize but acts upon instinct. Americans are acting in a similar fashion when they continue to press Constitutional arguments in courtrooms that laugh and ignore it. When judges say "don't bring up that Constitution IN MY COURTROOM" after having sworn an oath to support and defend it, it's because there's a solid basis in law that allows this.
It's difficult to make people see that they are being cajoled into believing in the PROTECTIONS afforded under the fairytale Constitution without ever witnessing any evidence to support their belief ... just like the blind faith they've shown for the fake monetary system that's imploding as we speak.
I'm not going to badger you. I'm simply going to say, OK - have it your way and see where it gets you. The people that designed the commercial system have been operating it for 6000 years and are proficient. They depend upon our emotional attachment to the fairytale Constitution and thereby they RULE THE WORLD (including the U.S. Inc.) the Constitution be damned.
Relative to the Constitution WE ARE THE OUTLAWS AS SOON AS WE USE THE COMMERCIAL SUBSTITUTE instead of LAWFUL CONSTITUTIONAL MONEY.
The choice of law is automatically determined by the choice of money.
Here's the e-mail address of a one time practicing attorney named, Harmon Taylor, that saw the light regarding the connection between the type of monetary system and the appropriate law based upon it while acting as Timothy McVeigh's appellate attorney. After studying the ruling of the court and the very obvious denial of Constitutional bearing respecting a commercial cause heard in a commercial (admiralty) court. His mission is to prevent future incarcerations of patriots addicted to bullshit arguments.
He surrendered his Law License because of what he learned. He might be able to say something differently than I have to help you see that it is an evil matrix and the KEY is the fact that the usage of commercial paper creates another separate jurisdiction that is immune to or unaffected by the Constitution.
legal_reality@earthlink.net
"What is required is the abolition of the Federal Reserve and its insidious control over the economic life of America. Instead of tax bills, the bankers and their hirelings need to be served with court summons. The bankers should be charged with financial crimes against humanity, not tax avoidance. " - Kurt Nimmo -2011
Their "monetary" system isn't ours. It's their control system. They can't have their cake and eat it too. They cannot claim jurisdiction in commerce and also immunity as an imagined "higher power" that's exempt from the Constitutional powers of Congress to regulate that sphere. That just shows they might be able to plead temporary insanity or something like that for their debt slavery "commerce" scam and other violations.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
OK, assuming you're correct that the system is "theirs" (and I agree) then we are simply users of it, rather than using a lawful form of money with substance that complies with the LAW of the LAND (earthly) ie., the Constitution. The Gold and Silver mined from the land and made into definite weights called coins complies with the Law of the Land called the Constitution.
When we use their currency (their PRODUCT ie., their commodity, ie., their COMMERCIAL services)we enter another realm of law. We also become debtors and owe what's called in normal open business a transaction fee but in the fraud we live in it's called taxes and fees such as "income tax, transaction taxes (like death taxes), property taxes, SOCIALIST SECURITY "CONTRIBUTIONS" (more taxes) and includes necessarily a variety of licenses and permits.
I remember thinking exactly the way most others in America do on this subject. I have researched all of the legal causes and the defenses made by very intelligent people who usually went to prison based upon their reliance upon the Constitution. And here is the point to note: It wasn't that the Constitution didn't exist, it was that these litigants had disqualified themselves from its protection by entering a commercial arrangement outside of the protections of the Constitution or law of the land. If you punch me in the nose I can't charge you with violating my Constitutional Rights because you aren't obligated to uphold them or honor them - neither is the FEDERAL RESERVE or the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
Many people think the FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE IS GOVT MONEY - It's not. It's the PRIVATE PROPERTY of the owners of the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK's CLASS A Stock. It's PRIVATE and dictates PRIVATE LAW, and as long as people remain ignorant of this and depend upon non-existent defenses they will continue to spin their wheels and have their asses thrown in jail.
Most people think this is a political problem that elections can remedy, but the REALITY is that the problem is commercial in nature first and foremost.
However, the facts on the ground and courts don't line up with the Constitutional theories submitted in defense of causes that should be rudimentary Constitutional decisions if in fact the Constitution had any bearing in commerce. It doesn't.
Do you recall when we used a double vertical line drawn through an S to indicate DOLLARS when they were a defined weight of silver or gold. Those two lines indicated form and substance. After we got the fiat dollar that had no substance they started using $ the S with one line through it indicating only form.
EDIT: a 12(b)(6) motion in FEDERAL COURT is a motion for summary judgment because the Plaintiff failed to state a claim upon which relief may be granted. This is saying that no matter if everything you claim is true the court has no ability to grant any relief to you. It doesn't get much clearer.
"What is required is the abolition of the Federal Reserve and its insidious control over the economic life of America. Instead of tax bills, the bankers and their hirelings need to be served with court summons. The bankers should be charged with financial crimes against humanity, not tax avoidance. " - Kurt Nimmo -2011
I remember thinking exactly the way most others in America do on this subject. I have researched all of the legal causes and the defenses made by very intelligent people who usually went to prison based upon their reliance upon the Constitution. And here is the point to note: It wasn't that the Constitution didn't exist, it was that these litigants had disqualified themselves from its protection by entering a commercial arrangement outside of the protections of the Constitution or law of the land. If you punch me in the nose I can't charge you with violating my Constitutional Rights because you aren't obligated to uphold them or honor them - neither is the FEDERAL RESERVE or the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
The problem wasn't that their reliance on the Constitution was misplaced. It is, as you said before: "the fraud we live in". I most certainly am obligated to uphold your Rights, which also extend to States' Rights to enact laws against being punched in the nose and to sue for damages if you want to. No, the counterfeiting Fed Res is not immune from lawful compliance with the Constitution and state Commerce laws, whether they agree or not. They should be sued for damages to our economy.
the REALITY is that the problem is commercial in nature first and foremost.
However, the facts on the ground and courts don't line up with the Constitutional theories submitted in defense of causes that should be rudimentary Constitutional decisions if in fact the Constitution had any bearing in commerce. It doesn't.
Of course it has bearing on Commerce. Does the power of Congress to regulate Commerce really extend to forcing us into debt slavery to a monopolistic company counterfeiting their private corporate-script out of thin air as America's coerced public currency? Absolutely not.
Do you recall when we used a double vertical line drawn through an S to indicate DOLLARS when they were a defined weight of silver or gold. Those two lines indicated form and substance. After we got the fiat dollar that had no substance they started using $ the S with one line through it indicating only form.
I didn't know that. Interesting. Thanks for pointing that out for me.
EDIT: a 12(b)(6) motion in FEDERAL COURT is a motion for summary judgment because the Plaintiff failed to state a claim upon which relief may be granted. This is saying that no matter if everything you claim is true the court has no ability to grant any relief to you. It doesn't get much clearer.
Sometimes it's a matter of the court's jurisdiction not applying to the claim, not that they wouldn't rule in favor if they could. We need to have a competing court system, maybe -- like a Common Law court but not so willy-nilly as that is at times. There was a video series posted here about a Common Law system in Alaska. I'll try to find it and post a link soon.
P.S. I noticed you have a Kurt Nimmo quote as your sig now. Did you know that Nemo means Noone (or Nobody)? I learned that after watching the cartoon, "Finding Nemo". Close enough in pronounciation that I thought I'd mention it like a synchronicity thing. :)
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I had no idea ... I haven't watched a cartoon in years ... decades actually.
Interesting.
"What is required is the abolition of the Federal Reserve and its insidious control over the economic life of America. Instead of tax bills, the bankers and their hirelings need to be served with court summons. The bankers should be charged with financial crimes against humanity, not tax avoidance. " - Kurt Nimmo -2011