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Title: Breaking!! George Lavender introduces HB 2756, Licensed Open Carry for Texas!
Source: Lone Star CDL
URL Source: http://www.lonestarcdl.org/2010bills.html
Published: Mar 10, 2011
Author: Lone Star CDL
Post Date: 2011-03-10 14:38:27 by echo5sierra
Keywords: None
Views: 334
Comments: 41

http://www.lonestarcdl.org/2010bills.html

George Lavender has introduced HB 2756, which removes completely the requirement of Concealed Handgun License Holders to conceal their handguns. This will sest us on the road to gun freedom, a road we are far behind on, compared to many other states. Open Carry is even legal in California! Come on, Texas!

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#1. To: echo5sierra (#0)

If we had open carry, I'd get a license.

Grow a pair, lege.

Lod  posted on  2011-03-10   14:41:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Lod (#1) (Edited)

If we had open carry, I'd get a license.

What about "the Right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed would cause you to get infringed with licensing ?

Grow a pair is right !

You hittin the gin already ???

noone222  posted on  2011-03-10   14:48:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: noone222 (#3)

What about "the Right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed would cause you to get infringed with licensing ?

This is the first step to Con. Carry. CC is now the law in Arizona and Wyoming. We are working on it. Let's take the first step down the road. Please help us work our way back.

echo5sierra  posted on  2011-03-10   14:53:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: echo5sierra, noone222 (#4)

Let's take the first step down the road. Please help us work our way back.

Exactly. The road to hell wasn't paved overnight.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-03-10   14:54:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Original_Intent (#6)

Let's take the first step down the road. Please help us work our way back.

Exactly. The road to hell wasn't paved overnight.

Open carry is our right. So, when we are willing to go "apply" (beg) for permission to do something that's already a right like breathing or like travel and turn it into a privilege (kinda-sorta like the driver license) we may as well bend over and grease down.

noone222  posted on  2011-03-10   17:08:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: noone222 (#29)

Let's take the first step down the road. Please help us work our way back.

Exactly. The road to hell wasn't paved overnight.

Open carry is our right. So, when we are willing to go "apply" (beg) for permission to do something that's already a right like breathing or like travel and turn it into a privilege (kinda-sorta like the driver license) we may as well bend over and grease down.

I both agree and disagree.

I agree that it is our right.

I disagree that provoking a confrontation is a positive. The reality is that without strong organization to make a counter push it is a hollow and pointless gesture that is just likely to get someone killed for no good reason. I am not fond of "Pyrrhic Victories".

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-03-10   17:29:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Original_Intent (#32)

We know registration is really meant for confiscation, don't we ? It's what every other tyrannical government has done.

noone222  posted on  2011-03-10   20:19:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: noone222 (#36)

We know registration is really meant for confiscation, don't we ? It's what every other tyrannical government has done.

That's why you always keep a mulligan - or two.

I'm talking about carry restrictions though not the licensing of the individual piece. I agree with your consideration, but we are now in a non-optimum state of affairs to begin with. Registration of individual guns should be opposed with all we can muster. Carry laws move into a gray area, and they don't apply at all during a social breakdown as then all bets are off.

Ideally there should be no restrictions. However, the anti-gun front groups and the merry chuckleheads that join them have, with push from behind the curtain, managed to enact barriers that are inconvenient. Further the sheeple have been subjected to a great deal of scarrorism regarding guns so they have a distorted view looking through that lens of created fear. So, openly defying the fear based restrictions is a cost/benefit analysis. At this point the costs outweigh the benefits.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-03-11   0:41:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#38. To: Original_Intent (#37)

I agree with your consideration, but we are now in a non-optimum state of affairs to begin with. Registration of individual guns should be opposed with all we can muster. Carry laws move into a gray area, and they don't apply at all during a social breakdown as then all bets are off.

Why give them any notion that you have even one gun ? More importantly, at least to me, our rights aren't supposed to be dependent upon the mood of government. After all didn't we create it to serve us and protect our rights ? Didn't we institute this noble idea at the finish of a war right on our own soil ? No, not me. I will not submit to compromise with weakness today so that my children will be more open to the same tomorrow. We've seen exactly how this incremental transformation from FREEDOM TO FASCISM works and I won't be a volunteer.

Further the sheeple have been subjected to a great deal of scarrorism regarding guns so they have a distorted view looking through that lens of created fear. So, openly defying the fear based restrictions is a cost/benefit analysis. At this point the costs outweigh the benefits.

In my mind sheeple with a distorted view are those willing to forfeit their rights. When we limit our rights according to the view of the mind manipulated and TV PROGRAMMED majority soon enough we'd have none. When the costs of our rights appear to outweigh the benefits we've lost sight of their value and should seriously rethink this attitude.

Frankly, I don't believe we have that option. These rights that you say should be compromised whenever some arbitrary reason is given belong not just to us but to our posterity. We're already suffocating the posterity with unpayable debt and now we're to leave them undefended. God forgive us. Many others feel differently than I do about this but they're the precise reason our rights have been diminished.

I see far more clearly now why Jefferson said to chain the government down with the Constitution ... the 2nd Amendment protecting the unrestricted right to keep and BEAR ARMS was meant to reinforce the chains.

When people on this forum so readily and willingly volunteer to swap their right to bear arms for a mere privilege granted by government that can be altered, restricted, or denied for whatever fabricated cause whenever Uncle Sambo wishes I shudder, scratch my head and ask myself if there is really any hope for our posterity. Then I have to ask when did we become such a self- centered society that we've abandoned our posterity in so many ways.

Should our social narcissism continue our grand-children will have every right and reason to piss all over our graves.

noone222  posted on  2011-03-11 03:10:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Original_Intent (#37)

That's why you always keep a mulligan - or two.

All of my guns are mulligans.

And so are theirs.

Critter  posted on  2011-03-11 13:06:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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