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Title: Breaking!! George Lavender introduces HB 2756, Licensed Open Carry for Texas!
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Lone Star CDL
URL Source: http://www.lonestarcdl.org/2010bills.html
Published: Mar 10, 2011
Author: Lone Star CDL
Post Date: 2011-03-10 14:38:27 by echo5sierra
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Views: 347
Comments: 41
http://www.lonestarcdl.org/2010bills.html George Lavender has introduced HB 2756, which removes completely the requirement of Concealed Handgun License Holders to conceal their handguns. This will sest us on the road to gun freedom, a road we are far behind on, compared to many other states. Open Carry is even legal in California! Come on, Texas!
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#1. To: echo5sierra (#0)
If we had open carry, I'd get a license. Grow a pair, lege.
Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.
Burn up those phone lines, bro! This is the first step towards Constitutional Carry.
What about "the Right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed would cause you to get infringed with licensing ? Grow a pair is right ! You hittin the gin already ???
"What is required is the abolition of the Federal Reserve and its insidious control over the economic life of America. Instead of tax bills, the bankers and their hirelings need to be served with court summons. The bankers should be charged with financial crimes against humanity, not tax avoidance. " - Kurt Nimmo -2011
This is the first step to Con. Carry. CC is now the law in Arizona and Wyoming. We are working on it. Let's take the first step down the road. Please help us work our way back.
What about "the Right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed would cause you to get infringed with licensing ? Grow a pair is right ! You hittin the gin already ??? There is a difference between resistance and foolishness. There are a lot of things done by government I adamantly oppose, but I am not going to "cut off my nose to spite my face". There is a difference between balls and brains. They are not an equality.
Exactly. The road to hell wasn't paved overnight.
THANK YOU.
Hope it passes. With civil war on their Southern Texas border, and being infiltrated by how many invaders and who knows what, Texans (if walking with half a brain) already carry though.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
We do have open carry in Texas. I was walking to the gun show the other day with a friend of mine who was in the Turkish special forces that I go hog hunting with. Folks are crossing the street with their Kahrs, ARs, AKs and Remingtons out in the open in downtown Houston. My buddy was a bit surprised. "They can do this??" I said, "Yeah. There is no law." He liked that idea. It's just those danged pistols that some folks are hung up about.
It is a violation of Natural Law to use this document in a manner inconsistent with its labeling.
========================================= I was talking about the 'open carry law' as in other states (e.g., Alaska) where you can carry your pistol on your hip almost anywhere. It is common to see people carrying in Alaska on the sidewalk and in public places.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
To paraphrase Sam Houston, Texans know not submission to any foreign foe, and illegal aliens are no exception. This war ain't lost yet.
I know what you're talking about, and I'm all for that. My only concern is from a tactical viewpoint. If I'm concealed, I'm cool. Open carry may upset some folks in the public environment, but that's their business. The thing about carrying a pistol in the open that worries me is that, in certain situations, the bearer could be a target in a way that he or she might not be with a handgun tucked in a waistband or hidden under a jacket. I'm interested in what other folks have to say on this point.
It is a violation of Natural Law to use this document in a manner inconsistent with its labeling.
Ha... Those Texans will soon be beaners by osmosis. hehehehehehe
What is more likely is the criminal casing the joint will find another, less hostile place to rob. An armed society is a polite society. Why do restaurants like police officers to hang out there? The open presence of guns deters criminal activity. Exhibit 1: http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-atlanta/open-carry-deters-armed-robbery-kennesaw
Good point. I would not trust myself to carry a gun. I have no problem if others carry, just dont shoot me.
You are most welcome.
Ah, a fellow reader of Heinlein. ;-)
Best Sci-fi writer ever.
Yeah, that is a scary thought. Cyni roaming around the neighborhood with a hogleg strapped to his hip might give some folks the jitters.
It is a violation of Natural Law to use this document in a manner inconsistent with its labeling.
Cyni roaming around the neighborhood with a hogleg strapped to his hip might give some folks the jitters. The military said I had to shoot one of those things, I declined, they said either I did or they would shoot me. Once on a flight crew they gave us .45s to carry real heat, but no ammo. They wuz smart.
Sir Lod carries concealed now, did you know that? Pint of gin in his inside coat pocket. hehehehehehe
Yeah, they wuz smart. A slug from one of those would put a big hole in a De Haviland.
It is a violation of Natural Law to use this document in a manner inconsistent with its labeling.
Had a grand uncle that did that. He lived to be 103. He quit smoking cigars tho, in his 90s.
It is a violation of Natural Law to use this document in a manner inconsistent with its labeling.
He lived to be 103. He quit smoking cigars tho, in his 90s. Well, dont let this get out but Lod had to give up sex or gin, the decision was not even close. hehehehehehe
Best Sci-fi writer ever. If you like Heinlein, and you are not already aware of him, get hold of some H. Beam Piper. Tragically he was not around as long as Heinlein but, for my money, was his equal. You can get a lot of his stuff on the Project Gutenberg website for free. Not to be missed is "The Cosmic Computer", "Uller Uprising", and some of his short stories were stunning. Oh, and the classics "Little Fuzzy" and "Fuzzy Sapiens".
Had a grand uncle that did that. He lived to be 103. He quit smoking cigars tho, in his 90s. Sounds like my Paternal Grandfather. He quit smoking at 85 (the same year he gave up farming - said the 12 hour days were getting a little long), lived to ten days short of his 100th B-day only to die from a non-age related Kidney infection which if he had gone to the doctor could have been fixed early on with ten bucks worth of anti-biotics. He was still walking 5 miles a day at 99.
I'd get the license to avoid any hassle. Meeting a roided-up pig is not a to-do here. Pick and choose.
Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.
Meeting a roided-up pig is not a to-do here. Pick and choose. Exactly. It is not my aspiration to be a pointless "martyr for the cause".
Exactly. The road to hell wasn't paved overnight. Open carry is our right. So, when we are willing to go "apply" (beg) for permission to do something that's already a right like breathing or like travel and turn it into a privilege (kinda-sorta like the driver license) we may as well bend over and grease down.
"What is required is the abolition of the Federal Reserve and its insidious control over the economic life of America. Instead of tax bills, the bankers and their hirelings need to be served with court summons. The bankers should be charged with financial crimes against humanity, not tax avoidance. " - Kurt Nimmo -2011
I have far less resentment towards Mexicans than I do against the government hacks supporting their revolution. EDIT: Actually, I like most of the Mexicans I've ever met with very few exceptions.
"What is required is the abolition of the Federal Reserve and its insidious control over the economic life of America. Instead of tax bills, the bankers and their hirelings need to be served with court summons. The bankers should be charged with financial crimes against humanity, not tax avoidance. " - Kurt Nimmo -2011
Calling my state Rep. tomorrow morning. While I'm at it, I'll hit him up to author a bill to let the folks carry concealed without a permit like Alaska, Vermont, and ??? at least one other state. I'm never going to give up a set of fingerprints and a mugshot to carry concealed, that's just plain stupid.
__________________________________________________________ Exactly. The road to hell wasn't paved overnight. Open carry is our right. So, when we are willing to go "apply" (beg) for permission to do something that's already a right like breathing or like travel and turn it into a privilege (kinda-sorta like the driver license) we may as well bend over and grease down. I both agree and disagree. I agree that it is our right. I disagree that provoking a confrontation is a positive. The reality is that without strong organization to make a counter push it is a hollow and pointless gesture that is just likely to get someone killed for no good reason. I am not fond of "Pyrrhic Victories".
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
That could be good or bad. We'll see, but in the meantime keep your powder dry.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
We know registration is really meant for confiscation, don't we ? It's what every other tyrannical government has done.
"What is required is the abolition of the Federal Reserve and its insidious control over the economic life of America. Instead of tax bills, the bankers and their hirelings need to be served with court summons. The bankers should be charged with financial crimes against humanity, not tax avoidance. " - Kurt Nimmo -2011
That's why you always keep a mulligan - or two. I'm talking about carry restrictions though not the licensing of the individual piece. I agree with your consideration, but we are now in a non-optimum state of affairs to begin with. Registration of individual guns should be opposed with all we can muster. Carry laws move into a gray area, and they don't apply at all during a social breakdown as then all bets are off. Ideally there should be no restrictions. However, the anti-gun front groups and the merry chuckleheads that join them have, with push from behind the curtain, managed to enact barriers that are inconvenient. Further the sheeple have been subjected to a great deal of scarrorism regarding guns so they have a distorted view looking through that lens of created fear. So, openly defying the fear based restrictions is a cost/benefit analysis. At this point the costs outweigh the benefits.
Why give them any notion that you have even one gun ? More importantly, at least to me, our rights aren't supposed to be dependent upon the mood of government. After all didn't we create it to serve us and protect our rights ? Didn't we institute this noble idea at the finish of a war right on our own soil ? No, not me. I will not submit to compromise with weakness today so that my children will be more open to the same tomorrow. We've seen exactly how this incremental transformation from FREEDOM TO FASCISM works and I won't be a volunteer. Further the sheeple have been subjected to a great deal of scarrorism regarding guns so they have a distorted view looking through that lens of created fear. So, openly defying the fear based restrictions is a cost/benefit analysis. At this point the costs outweigh the benefits. In my mind sheeple with a distorted view are those willing to forfeit their rights. When we limit our rights according to the view of the mind manipulated and TV PROGRAMMED majority soon enough we'd have none. When the costs of our rights appear to outweigh the benefits we've lost sight of their value and should seriously rethink this attitude. Frankly, I don't believe we have that option. These rights that you say should be compromised whenever some arbitrary reason is given belong not just to us but to our posterity. We're already suffocating the posterity with unpayable debt and now we're to leave them undefended. God forgive us. Many others feel differently than I do about this but they're the precise reason our rights have been diminished. I see far more clearly now why Jefferson said to chain the government down with the Constitution ... the 2nd Amendment protecting the unrestricted right to keep and BEAR ARMS was meant to reinforce the chains. When people on this forum so readily and willingly volunteer to swap their right to bear arms for a mere privilege granted by government that can be altered, restricted, or denied for whatever fabricated cause whenever Uncle Sambo wishes I shudder, scratch my head and ask myself if there is really any hope for our posterity. Then I have to ask when did we become such a self- centered society that we've abandoned our posterity in so many ways. Should our social narcissism continue our grand-children will have every right and reason to piss all over our graves.
"What is required is the abolition of the Federal Reserve and its insidious control over the economic life of America. Instead of tax bills, the bankers and their hirelings need to be served with court summons. The bankers should be charged with financial crimes against humanity, not tax avoidance. " - Kurt Nimmo -2011
Noone222, I don't accept any restrictions on my rights. This measure is one of many steps back to full freedom for the bearing of arms. Our rights were taken from us one step at a time, and that is how we will get them back.
All of my guns are mulligans. And so are theirs.
#2. To: Lod (#1)
#3. To: Lod (#1)
(Edited)
If we had open carry, I'd get a license.
#4. To: noone222 (#3)
What about "the Right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed would cause you to get infringed with licensing ?
#5. To: noone222, Lod (#3)
If we had open carry, I'd get a license.
#6. To: echo5sierra, noone222 (#4)
Let's take the first step down the road. Please help us work our way back.
#7. To: Original_Intent (#6)
Exactly. The road to hell wasn't paved overnight.
#8. To: echo5sierra (#0)
#9. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#8)
#10. To: randge (#9)
It's just those danged pistols that some folks are hung up about.
#11. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#8)
#12. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#10)
#13. To: noone222 (#3)
#14. To: randge (#12)
The thing about carrying a pistol in the open that worries me is that, in certain situations, the bearer could be a target in a way that he or she might not be with a handgun tucked in a waistband or hidden under a jacket.
#15. To: randge (#12)
I'm interested in what other folks have to say on this point.
#16. To: echo5sierra (#7)
#17. To: echo5sierra (#14)
An armed society is a polite society.
#18. To: Original_Intent (#17)
Ah, a fellow reader of Heinlein. ;-)
#19. To: Cynicom (#15)
I would not trust myself to carry a gun.
#20. To: randge (#19)
Yeah, that is a scary thought.
#21. To: randge, Lod (#19)
#22. To: Cynicom (#20)
they gave us .45s
#23. To: Cynicom (#21)
Pint of gin in his inside coat pocket.
#24. To: randge, Lod (#23)
Had a grand uncle that did that.
#25. To: echo5sierra (#18)
Ah, a fellow reader of Heinlein. ;-)
#26. To: randge, Cynicom (#23)
Pint of gin in his inside coat pocket.
#27. To: Original_Intent, 4 (#26)
#28. To: Lod (#27)
I'd get the license to avoid any hassle.
#29. To: Original_Intent (#6)
Let's take the first step down the road. Please help us work our way back.
#30. To: Cynicom (#13)
(Edited)
Those Texans will soon be beaners by osmosis. hehehehehehe
#31. To: echo5sierra, Lod, *Shooters* (#0)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#32. To: noone222 (#29)
Let's take the first step down the road. Please help us work our way back.
#33. To: Original_Intent, All (#5)
#34. To: Eric Stratton (#33)
#35. To: Original_Intent (#34)
#36. To: Original_Intent (#32)
#37. To: noone222 (#36)
We know registration is really meant for confiscation, don't we ? It's what every other tyrannical government has done.
#38. To: Original_Intent (#37)
I agree with your consideration, but we are now in a non-optimum state of affairs to begin with. Registration of individual guns should be opposed with all we can muster. Carry laws move into a gray area, and they don't apply at all during a social breakdown as then all bets are off.
#39. To: noone222 (#38)
#40. To: Original_Intent (#37)
That's why you always keep a mulligan - or two.
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#41. To: Critter (#40)
I like the sentiment on the shirt. Wouldn't that frost the local SWAT Thugs - show up to throw a party and find themselves surrounded, disarmed, and stripped. I like that thought.
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