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Title: tom007 says nothing but a blow out of the containment structure could have caused the massive explosion in the Japanese reactor...
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Published: Mar 13, 2011
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Post Date: 2011-03-13 03:15:14 by tom007
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What, a pump or a circuit breaker???

This was a MASSIVE EXPLOSION after they dumped ocean water into the reactor's core.

There seems to be no KaI pills in Vallarta.

Ceasium

I s not animal friendly.

The containmemt structure must have blown.

Hope I am wrong.

Posted from a droid in Vallarta.

Tell me why I am wrong.....Please.

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#14. To: tom007, original_intent (#0)

seems to be no Kal pills in Vallarta

what is kal pills? from what OI said one needs potassium niacin & iodine. right?

Artisan  posted on  2011-03-14   2:30:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

He gave the Chemical formula Ka for Potassium "I" for iodine. There are two forms Potassium Iodate and Potassium iodide. You wand Potassium Iodide as your body absorbs it more readily with fewer side effects. There is a new one out that is supposedly easier for your body to use called NutrioDine but I can't vouch for it from personal experience and it is expensive. Naturally occurring iodine is also found in Kelp the one used by health food junkies is Dulce which is a type of Norwegian Kelp harvest from the North Sea. I don't know how much you would have to eat though to get enough iodine.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-03-14   3:56:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_iodide

Thyroid protection due to nuclear accidents and emergencies

SSKI may be used in radioiodine-contamination emergencies (i.e., nuclear accidents) to "block" the thyroid's uptake of radioiodine (this is not the same as blocking the thyroid's release of thyroid hormone).

Potassium iodide was approved in 1982 by the US FDA to protect the thyroid glands from radioactive iodine from accidents or fission emergencies. In the event of an accident or attack at a nuclear power plant, or fallout from a nuclear bomb, volatile fission product radionuclides may be released, of which ¹³¹I is one of the most common by-products and a particularly dangerous one due to thyroid gland concentration of it, which may lead to thyroid cancer. By saturating the body with a source of stable iodide prior to exposure, inhaled or ingested ¹³¹I tends to be excreted.

Potassium iodide cannot protect against any other causes of radiation poisoning, nor can it provide any degree of protection against dirty bombs that produce radionuclides other than isotopes of iodine. See fission products and the external links for more details concerning radionuclides.

WHO Recommended Dosage for Radiological Emergencies involving radioactive iodine^[21]

Age	KI in mg
Over 12 years old	130
3 – 12 years old	65
1 – 36 months old	32
< 1 month old	16

[edit] Historical use and analysis

Following the Chernobyl nuclear reactor disaster in April, 1986, a saturated solution of potassium iodide (SSKI) was administered to 10.5 million children and 7 million adults in Poland^[22] as a prophylactic measure against accumulation of radioactive iodine-131 in the thyroid gland. People in the areas immediately surrounding Chernobyl itself, however, were not given the supplement.^[23]

Potassium iodide’s (KI) value as a radiation protective (thyroid blocking) agent was demonstrated at the time of the Chernobyl nuclear accident when Soviet authorities distributed it in a 30 km zone around the plant. The purpose was to protect residents from radioactive iodine, a highly carcinogenic material found in nuclear reactors which had been released by the damaged reactor. Only a limited amount of KI was available, but those who received it were protected. Later, the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) reported, “thousands of measurements of I-131 (radioactive iodine) activity...suggest that the observed levels were lower than would have been expected had this prophylactic measure not been taken. The use of KI...was credited with permissible iodine content in 97% of the evacuees tested.”^[24]

Poland, 300 miles from Chernobyl, also distributed KI to protect its population. Approximately 18 million doses were distributed, with follow-up studies showing no known thyroid cancer among KI recipients.^[25] With the passage of time, people living in irradiated areas where KI was not available have developed thyroid cancer at epidemic levels, which is why the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) reported “The data clearly demonstrate the risks of thyroid radiation...KI can be used [to] provide safe and effective protection against thyroid cancer caused by irradiation.^[26]

Chernobyl also demonstrated that the need to protect the thyroid from radiation was greater than expected. Within ten years of the accident, it became clear that thyroid damage caused by released radioactive iodine was virtually the only adverse health effect that could be measured. As reported by the NRC, studies after the accident showed that “As of 1996, except for thyroid cancer, there has been no confirmed increase in the rates of other cancers, including leukemia, among the...public, that have been attributed to releases from the accident.”^[27]

But equally important to the question of KI is the fact that radiation releases are not “local” events. Researchers at the World Health Organization accurately located and counted the cancer victims from Chernobyl and were startled to find that “the increase in incidence [of thyroid cancer] has been documented up to 500 km from the accident site...significant doses from radioactive iodine can occur hundreds of kilometers from the site, beyond emergency planning zones."^[21] Consequently, far more people than anticipated were affected by the radiation, which caused the United Nations to report in 2002 that “The number of people with thyroid cancer...has exceeded expectations. Over 11,000 cases have already been reported.”^[28]

These findings were consistent with studies of the effects of previous radiation releases. In 1945, millions of Japanese were exposed to radiation from nuclear weapons, and the effects can still be measured. Today, nearly half (44.8%) the survivors of Nagasaki studied have identifiable thyroid disease, with the American Medical Association reporting “it is remarkable that a biological effect from a single brief environmental exposure nearly 60 years in the past is still present and can be detected.”^[29] This, as well as the development of thyroid cancer among residents in the North Pacific from radioactive fallout following the United States' nuclear weapons testing in the 1950s (on islands nearly 200 miles downwind of the tests) were instrumental in the decision by the FDA in 1978 to issue a request for the availability of KI for thyroid protection in the event of a release from a commercial nuclear power plant or weapons-related nuclear incident. Noting that KI’s effectiveness was “virtually complete” and finding that iodine in the form of potassium iodide (KI) was substantially superior to other forms including iodate (KIO₃) in terms of safety, effectiveness, lack of side effects, and speed of onset, the FDA invited manufacturers to submit applications to produce and market KI.^[30]

Today, three companies (Anbex, Inc., Fleming Co, and Recip of Sweden) have met the strict FDA requirements for manufacturing and testing of KI, and they offer products (IOSAT, ThyroShield, and Thyro-Safe, respectively) which are available for purchase. The Swedish manufacturing facility for Thyrosafe, a potassium iodide tablet for thyroid protection from radiation manufactured by Recipharm AB, was mentioned on the secret US 2008 Critical Foreign Dependencies Initiative leaked by Wikileaks in 2010.^[31]

[edit] Adverse reactions

There have been some reports of potassium iodide treatment causing swelling of the parotid gland (one of the three glands which secrete saliva), due to its stimulatory effects on saliva production.^[32]

A saturated solution of KI (SSKI) is typically given orally in adult doses of about 250 mg iodide several times a day (5 drops of SSKI assumed to be U1; mL) for thyroid blockage and occasionally as an expectorant. At these doses, and sometimes at much lower doses, side effects may include: acne, loss of appetite, or upset stomach (especially during the first several days, as the body adjusts to the medication). More severe side effects which require notification of a physician are: fever, weakness, unusual tiredness, swelling in the neck or throat, mouth sores, skin rash, nausea, vomiting, stomach pains, irregular heartbeat, numbness or tingling of the hands or feet, or a metallic taste in the mouth.^[33]

[edit] Precautions

Mild irritant, wear gloves. Chronic overexposure can have adverse effects on the thyroid. Potassium iodide is a possible teratogen.

wudidiz  posted on  2011-03-14   4:29:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

what does the bottle say? potassium? ka1? iodite? iodine? iodate? None of the bottles or brands out of the hundreds said any of those whatsoever, & nothing was sold out.

potassium iodide, or Iodate, or iodade(??) or potassium glucomate, which is the only sort of 'potassium' the store carries. i had a chance to stop in a walmart at 2am in the middle of f'kin nowhere & this is all jibberish. what do we take for the nuke?

Artisan  posted on  2011-03-17   6:54:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

i had a chance to stop in a walmart at 2am in the middle of f'kin nowhere & this is all jibberish. what do we take for the nuke?

Potassium IODIDE. Which should only be used during a radiologic emergency and it only protects the thyroid and doesn't make you radiation proof.

However you can also use natural supplements to build up the iodine level in your thyroid so it won't take up radioactive Iodine 131. The reason for the precaution is that most people are deficient in iodine so the thyroid, being a slut, will reach out and take up promiscuously any iodine available. So the supplement satiating its desire for iodine is just as readily laid in.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-03-17   11:50:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

what if u take potassium IODIDE & there isnt actually radiation in the air, what will happen, & have u evere seen a store that carries it? lastly, why is it called iodide if you then refer to it as iodine? what is the difference?

Artisan  posted on  2011-03-17   12:02:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The change in the word ending on Iodine to Iodide is a chemical convention denoting a binary atomic bond in a non-metallic or more electro-negative elements/groups.

You shouldn't use Potassium Iodide unless there is reason to believe that I 131 is present. Otherwise you are better off with a natural supplement to boost your thyroid's Iodine levels. Too much Iodine, while it is a necessary micro-nutrient for proper glandular function, can quickly become toxic. The old saying is "the dose makes the poison". That is very true with Iodine. Your body does need a certain small amount but beyond that small amount it increasingly becomes toxic.

From what I have been reading Potassium Iodide is in short supply due to panic buying. That is one of the reasons I'm suggesting natural supplements - both because it is available and of course because your body handles it better and you are not likely to build up toxic levels.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-03-17   15:55:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#37. To: Original_Intent, formerlurker (#36)

thanks for the info. So potassium gluconate would be good to take now, because that helps your thyroid even though it doesnt contain iodine?

Artisan  posted on  2011-03-18 01:25:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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