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Title: Why Men Will Always Rule the World!!
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Published: Mar 15, 2011
Author: Turtle
Post Date: 2011-03-15 10:46:25 by Turtle
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Comments: 61

Because men fix things (invent, discover, create) and women think sitting around talking counts as work.

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#21. To: Armadillo (#14)

ping on post #20

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2011-03-16   10:07:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Turtle (#8)

Yep, and this is why wimmins want to be managers, they don't do shit, and get paid to yack.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2011-03-16   10:23:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Lysander_Spooner (#20)

Expendability is a DHV.

DHV?

Maxim #10: Marriage is a social mechanism designed to exchange sex for indentured servitude.

How many married men are happy with their sex lives?

Maxim #11: Calling a girl out on her lie accomplishes nothing.

It lets me know that I am dealing with a liar. I already knew that, but a reminder never hurts.

I don't know why these were numbered that way, but this should be required reading for men, young and old.

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PSUSA  posted on  2011-03-16   10:31:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: farmfriend (#3)

perfect!

i don't know a man who could live without us. even gay men love their women friends, mothers, and sisters. ;)

christine  posted on  2011-03-16   11:19:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Armadillo, PSUSA, Lysander Spoon (#14)

If I start treating women like crap, insulting them, making fun of them, I bet I could get laid within a month.

If you want to get laid that might work, but it will produce any quality relationship candidates. If you begin a relationship that way, it's based on BS because that's not who you are. There is nothing wrong with being nice......but you must also be assertive in that you know what you want and aren't afraid to ask for it. A closed mouth never gets fed. : )

The advice you are getting from PSUSA and Lysander Spoon is advice from men who do not have a relationship with a good woman. Their approach is not an approach for finding a good woman but it may work well for finding manipulative woman. Why would you want a woman who wants to be treated like crap? Why would any self respecting man want that?

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

abraxas  posted on  2011-03-16   11:24:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: abraxas, Armadillo, PSUSA, Lysander Spoon (#25)

Why would any self respecting man want that?

amen!


The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-03-16   11:28:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: christine (#24)

Love's important, whether you are a man or a woman.

You show it by serving your partner as you would serve yourself. What you do elsewhere out of duty, you do in marriage out of love.

It is a violation of Natural Law to use this document in a manner inconsistent with its labeling.

randge  posted on  2011-03-16   11:29:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: PSUSA (#9)

Women respect chauvinists. They (ab)use nice guys. That is another truth that no one ever teaches.

that's not my reality..all of my married girlfriends are with nice guys. myself, that's all i'm attracted to. i despise chauvinists because they're narcissists.

christine  posted on  2011-03-16   11:29:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: randge (#27)

nice guy ;)

christine  posted on  2011-03-16   11:30:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Lysander_Spooner (#20)

Maxim #15: Be narcissistic.

lol.....yer killin' me with this list.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

abraxas  posted on  2011-03-16   11:46:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: abraxas, Armadillo, PSUSA (#25)

The advice you are getting from ........ Lysander Spoon is advice from men who do not have a relationship with a good woman. Their approach is not an approach for finding a good woman but it may work well for finding manipulative woman.

Not true.

It recognizes the true nature of women, and protects a man from being used, abused and screwed by a woman, aided and abetted by a government, legal system and culture who seem to get off on doing exactly that.

In other words it is defensive and recognizes a man's need for self preservation. The lists need to be taken with a grain of salt, a bit of reasonableness and applied with judiciousness in one's own situation. They are not meant in my opinion to be adhered to by the letter.

Um, as far as bagging a good one, my girl last nite came over made me turkey, mashed potatoes, stuffing, and gravy....home cooking. I worked on the electric in a bathroom I am finishing, and watched/listened to the NCAA b'ball game while sipping on some Petron. We went to bed and I obeyed Roissey # XIV. She made me coffee an breakfast. She texted me this morning "Thanks for last night. It was WOW baby! :)". She is an ER nurse and has her own condo too. If this is NOT a good woman, please advise how she needs to change....lol.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2011-03-16   11:57:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Lysander_Spooner (#31)

my girl last nite came over made me turkey, mashed potatoes, stuffing, and gravy....home cooking.

Maxim #105: Where there’s incentive, there are lies.

It's your maxim, Lysander.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

abraxas  posted on  2011-03-16   12:01:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: abraxas, Armadillo, Lysander Spoon (#25)

And awayyyyyyyyyyyy we goooooooo!

Never and I mean never take from women any 'advise' on how to treat women. They lie.

And here is lie #1:

Their approach is not an approach for finding a good woman but it may work well for finding manipulative woman.

To women, a good woman = a manipulative woman. This is a good woman, to other women only. They are poison to men.

Lie #2:

Why would you want a woman who wants to be treated like crap? Why would any self respecting man want that?

You know little to nothing about "self-respecting men". A self-respecting man refuses to let himself be manipulated. Nothing more and nothing less.

It is not "treating women like crap" to keep them from manipulating men. Treating women like crap does NOT equal letting women get their way at our expense. That is a recipe for disaster. It leads only to a womans contempt towards the man that cares about her.

The advise we have given, both through our experiences and through others experiences, is what works. It is provable. Go out and try it and see for yourself!

If what you're doing now isn't working, then change. It is a definition of insanity to do the same things over and over, expecting a different result each time.

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PSUSA  posted on  2011-03-16   12:03:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: All (#0)

I do the best posts.

One sentence and look at all the replies.

Turtle is something!

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2011-03-16   12:08:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: christine (#28)

We're nice guys. We don't see women as the enemy, we just acknowledge the differences. We just know the games women play, and refuse to play them.

The surest way for a woman to hold a man in utter contempt is for him to let himself be manipulated.

They respect and respond to men that are not submissive weasels that think they can (eventually) get laid if they put up with a womans little "shit tests".

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PSUSA  posted on  2011-03-16   12:08:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: PSUSA (#33)

You know little to nothing about "self-respecting men". A self-respecting man refuses to let himself be manipulated. Nothing more and nothing less.

Why are you so defensive PSUSA? Generally, that is a sign that what you are pushing is BS. We both know it.

Personally, I find the manipulation game, played by both women and men, a complete waste of time. If you have to pretend to be something you are not to get the attention of women......then, I feel sorry for you. I know that self respecting men would find this game beneath them. You know it too.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

abraxas  posted on  2011-03-16   12:09:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Lysander_Spooner (#31)

QFT!

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PSUSA  posted on  2011-03-16   12:10:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: abraxas (#36)

If you have to pretend to be something you are not to get the attention of women......

I dont pretend. It is the way I am. And it works.

And it's not a "game". It's serious business because women can and do easily ruin men in this legal climate.

And I am not defensive. I am offensive. Take that whichever way you want to take it.

Personally, I find the manipulation game, played by both women and men, a complete waste of time.

Sure you do.

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PSUSA  posted on  2011-03-16   12:15:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: abraxas (#32)

It's your maxim, Lysander.

No, it is Roissey's.

I do my own thing.

I am not so sure that one applies to my situation. All people have the ability to lie, and most have, few have not. Again it recognizes human nature, rather than bowing down to women and placing them on a pedestal. The maxim's, etc. recognize that women are people and have the potential to be liars, and most will take the opportunity if there is incentive. So give them as little incentive as possible.

For example, marriage incentivizes divorce, so as a man, and considering this culture, legal system, etc., it is unwise and exposes oneself to a tremendous amount of liability, so I will not marry.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2011-03-16   12:15:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Turtle (#34)

Turtle is something!

And makes a damn good soup too !! ;)

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2011-03-16   12:18:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: christine, PSUSA (#28)

all of my married girlfriends are with nice guys.

They have submitted, they are no longer men.

We commonly refer to them as manginas

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2011-03-16   12:20:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Lysander_Spooner (#40)

Turtle is something!

And makes a damn good soup too !! ;)

You're going straigt to Heck for that one.

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2011-03-16   12:23:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Lysander_Spooner (#41)

They have submitted, they are no longer men.

So, your premise is that a man cannot be a man and be nice?

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

abraxas  posted on  2011-03-16   12:37:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: PSUSA (#38)

Personally, I find the manipulation game, played by both women and men, a complete waste of time.

Sure you do.

Your belief or disbelief in the statement has no bearing on the truth of the matter. : )

Manipulation is an ego trip and there are some people who disdain it, which is hard for people who rely on the mechanism to fathom.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

abraxas  posted on  2011-03-16   12:46:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Turtle (#42)

You're going straigt to Heck for that one.

Yep, I know, but it was worth the risk :)

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2011-03-16   12:46:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Lysander_Spooner (#41)

We commonly refer to them as manginas

Same here.

Women do not appreciate or respect nice. They take advantage of it. As a rule. I hear that there are exceptions, somewhere...

It seems that the women here equate what we are talking about with abuse. It's not abuse. There is no excuse for abuse. But women abuse and we know the signs. We prevent abuse. They don't like that. They don't like a level playing field.

We are different. Women are not men with vaginas. The sooner men realize that, the happier men and women will be.

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PSUSA  posted on  2011-03-16   12:48:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: abraxas (#44) (Edited)

Manipulation is an ego trip and there are some people who disdain it, which is hard for people who rely on the mechanism to fathom.

It is not manipulative to prevent manipulation.

I dont believe any of us are talking about these "pick up artists". I despise them because they do manipulate by using subtle psychological techniques. IMO they are predatory.

IMO we are just talking about the fundamental natures of both men and women.

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PSUSA  posted on  2011-03-16   12:52:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: abraxas (#43)

I think this applies here:

Maxim #36: A woman’s sex and relationship advice isn’t meant to help men; it’s meant to distract men from what really works to attract women.

So you want men to be nice? Then they can all get 'maaaaaaaaaaried' lol.

How about .....no nice.....no maaaaaaaary.

My premise, is nice guys open themselves up for being abused, used and screwed. Marriage often is the most direct path to that end, and it ain't nothing like nice.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2011-03-16   12:54:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Turtle (#34)

Turtle is something a shit starter!

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#50. To: christine (#28)

i despise chauvinists because they're narcissists.

No we're not...

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2011-03-16   13:30:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: who knows what evil (#50)

um...you're one those nice guys. ;)

christine  posted on  2011-03-16   13:35:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Turtle, 4 (#42)

interesting thread -

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-03-16   13:53:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: christine (#51)

That's not true! I have been very busy designing kitchens to give all the neighborhood women something to do with their spare time...

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2011-03-16   14:08:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: who knows what evil, chrstine (#53)

That's not true! I have been very busy designing kitchens to give all the neighborhood women something to do with their spare time...

Husband, home, children...no matter what they say (say the nonsense about "career") it's what almost all of them want.

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2011-03-16   14:12:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: who knows what evil (#50)

narcissists

Reminds me of a joke:

How many narcissists does it take to change a light bulb?

Just ONE.

The narcissist climbs the ladder, grabs the bulb, and the world spins around them. ;)

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2011-03-16   14:30:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: abraxas, farmfriend (#25)

If you want to get laid that might work,

So you admit that women do behave that way.
How about you ladies stop doing that shit, or at least stop complaining about the jerks you willingly hook up with, or stop lying about what you want in a guy.
Just admit you want a guy to treat you like crap, and stop giving nice guys like me false hope.

but it will produce any quality relationship candidates. If you begin a relationship that way, it's based on BS because that's not who you are. There is nothing wrong with being nice......but you must also be assertive in that you know what you want and aren't afraid to ask for it. A closed mouth never gets fed.
I dont have ANY "relationship candidates" now of any quality.
A relationship is what I want long term. Short term, I just need to get laid.
I need to be assertive?
Maybe I should walk up to the coworker I have a crush on and say "Hey! You and I are going to fuck this weekend! I'll be at your house Saturday at 2:00."
I'd either get fired or get laid, I guess.


Armadillo  posted on  2011-03-16   20:08:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Armadillo (#56)

So you admit that women do behave that way.

"Hey! You and I are going to fuck this weekend! I'll be at your house Saturday at 2:00."

How about you ladies stop doing that shit, or at least stop complaining about the jerks you willingly hook up with, or stop lying about what you want in a guy.

Of course, but I don't see "good" women behaving this way.

Dillo, you already told us that the co-worker you have a crush on is a lesbo, so she isn't going to respond to any assertive offers of your penis.

If you think back, I'm sure there have been dozens of potential candidates that you have kicked yourself in the butt for not talking to or not asserting your interest in them. Go to the book store and practice talking to women you find attractive.......bookish gals are horny too. : )

Farmfriend and I do not do that. Do you hear us yapping about the jerks or hook ups or airing dirty laundry about men?

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

abraxas  posted on  2011-03-16   20:20:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: abraxas, farmfriend, Amourousdildo, Armadillo (#57)

Farmfriend and I do not do that. Do you hear us yapping about the jerks or hook ups or airing dirty laundry about men?

No, but we're all ears. ;-)

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-03-16   20:31:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Original_Intent, abraxas, Armadillo, Eric Stratton (#58)

No, but we're all ears. ;-)

*where did I put that whip anyway*


The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-03-16   20:49:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: farmfriend (#59)

Hee, hee.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-03-16   20:50:43 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: abraxas, farmfriend (#57) (Edited)

Of course, but I don't see "good" women behaving this way.

"Good women" are rare these days. They dont wear signs saying "jerks need not apply". Being shy means it's difficult to talk to a woman anyway. I am working on that though.

Dillo, you already told us that the co-worker you have a crush on is a lesbo, so she isn't going to respond to any assertive offers of your penis.

Actually she is showing some interest since she broke up with her girlfriend. Her body lanugage says she is interested, but maybe uncomfortable. I get the impression she wants to tell me something, but always changes her mind.
I'm tired of the emotional rollercoaster over her. If she's interested, she will have to be the one to say something.
I dont think we're compatable for a long term relationship, but she's got a nice athletic body, and I'd like to tap that.
For all I know she might respond to "Your puss, my dick, a box of condoms. Saturday. 2:00." but I doubt it.


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