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Title: Turtle’s Free Guide to Avoiding Crazy Women
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Published: Mar 21, 2011
Author: Turtle
Post Date: 2011-03-21 12:51:09 by Turtle
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Some years ago I met a woman who was like no woman I had ever met before. I knew within about three hours there was something quite wrong with her, but I did not know exactly what. I ended up seeing her for a few weeks and in that time came to some conclusions. After much thought, I was able to formulate Turtle’s Guide to Avoiding Crazy Women. The first red flag: if they start talking about how they were sexually abused when younger, stay away. I mean if they start talking about it within the first TEN MINUTES of meeting them. That’s what this woman did, and I realized she was portraying herself as a victim. Then, not too long after the abuse stories, she told me that men are responsible for all (or maybe she said almost all) the problems in the world. That’s the second red flag, because she was again portraying herself as a victim. When anyone – male or female – does this, they are full of hostility toward the other sex. Since these people portray themselves as victims, they believe they’re always in the right, which means YOU are always in the wrong. They have no sense of your boundaries, which they are always violating. On the other hand, they are excruciatingly sensitive to you violating their boundaries, to the point they imagine it when it’s not there. She once told her she thought she was a stopgap to me, on my way to another woman. The idea had never occurred to me, and wasn’t true in the slightest. In fact, when I tried to protest, I couldn’t get a word in. Again, she was portraying herself as a victim – this time of me. People like this are known as “character disorders.” To them, it’s never their fault; it’s always your fault. They don’t even know they’re doing it, and if you point it out, it doesn’t register. That’s why therapy doesn’t work on these people. One of my friends got involved with a woman like this, because she hid what she was for a few months. It took him quite a while to get her out of his condo, and for a while ended up drinking a bottle of wine a night because of the stress. I told him he was an abused man. Incidentally, most men who are abused by women don’t even know they’re being abused! It takes quite a while for the fact to penetrate. Another bizarre thing about people like this is that they lack empathy, and don’t even know it. It’s why they wreak havoc in people’s lives, and especially in intimate relationships. It’s because your feelings don’t count. Again, they don’t do this on purpose – they don’t even know they’re doing it, and when it’s pointed out, still can’t realize it. These people unfortunately can’t have real relationships, since other people, since they believe, even if they don’t know it, that other people exist to serve them. In a phrase, they lack respect and consideration for others.
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#1. To: farmfriend, abraxas, christine, Lady X (#0)
Take THAT, you wenches!
"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson
externalizing--that's a characteristic of a borderline personality disorder. stay away from those. they're toxic to healthy people.
I have a minor in psychology, know all the terms inside and out -- and they mean nothing until you meet these people. In fact, I decided she was a borderline myself. She showed every characteristic.
"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson
I believe you were shacked up with my mother in law!
I believe these people make up about two percent of the population. They cause an astronomical amount of problems in proportion to their numbers.
"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson
How can they cause damage unless people decide they want to put up with their nonsense? You said that you put up with her for a few weeks. Sorry, but IMO that is your own fault. You could have kicked her to the curb long before then. .
#2. To: Turtle (#0)
People like this are known as “character disorders.” To them, it’s never their fault; it’s always your fault.
#3. To: christine (#2)
externalizing--that's a characteristic of a borderline personality disorder. stay away from those. they're toxic to healthy people.
#4. To: Turtle (#0)
People like this are known as “character disorders.” To them, it’s never their fault; it’s always your fault. They don’t even know they’re doing it, and if you point it out, it doesn’t register. That’s why therapy doesn’t work on these people.
#5. To: alteredreality (#4)
I believe you were shacked up with my mother in law!
#6. To: Turtle (#5)
They cause an astronomical amount of problems in proportion to their numbers.
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ruin everything, including sig lines.
#7. To: Turtle (#5)
I would almost bet that you can add a 0 to that two and have an accurate percentage. I see them daily...
I believe these people make up about two percent of the population. They cause an astronomical amount of problems in proportion to their numbers.
#8. To: Turtle (#0)
Yes, like they for example engage in a prolonged period of the "silent treatment", a form of emotional blackmail - "Unless you do what you're told, I'm withholding myself from you" - they do not consider the effect it has on the target of the silent treatment, instead they see your frantic and frequent efforts at contact as "harassment" or "stalking", not realsing they alone are the cause of the problem with one simple solution they alone can solve - communication.
Another bizarre thing about people like this is that they lack empathy, and don’t even know it. It’s why they wreak havoc in people’s lives, and especially in intimate relationships. It’s because your feelings don’t count. Again, they don’t do this on purpose – they don’t even know they’re doing it, and when it’s pointed out, still can’t realize it.
Solutions for Ireland. Say NO to the IMF/World bank. Default on our debt. Print our own debt free currency. Nationalise the trillion euros worth of gas and oil off our west coast. Take back our fishing (200 billion worth). Get our farmers growing again. Done deal if our politicians had the backbone. ~ Jim Corr
#9. To: PSUSA (#6) (Edited)
They very often hard to discover what they are until it's too late. I saw through her in a few hours. Most people, it takes months or years. They can be very charming and manipulative.
How can they cause damage unless people decide they want to put up with their nonsense?
"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson
#10. To: Turtle (#9)
I dont know. Maybe I just have a short fuse when it comes to this stuff. At the first sign of manipulation: poof! She's gone. And 'god' help her if she gives an ultimatum. .
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ruin everything, including sig lines.
#11. To: PSUSA (#10)
Sometimes they're really obvious, like this one, and sometimes they're not.
"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson
#12. To: Turtle (#0)
The first red flag: The first red flag for me is: A woman over 30, divorced or never married who owns two or more cats. Once this flag appears, any possible relationship is DOA, period. There is no need to seek additional confirmation.
After much thought, I was able to formulate Turtle’s Guide to Avoiding Crazy Women.
#13. To: Turtle (#11)
I worked in domestic violence for years and I can say that there are some that are so see thru, however the system isn't set up to weed them out!
Sometimes they're really obvious, like this one, and sometimes they're not.
#14. To: Buzzard (#12) (Edited)
Even one cat is a red flag past age 30, never married or divorced. It's why I like pugs -- they are never a red flag.
A woman over 30, divorced or never married who owns two or more cats.
"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson
#15. To: Turtle (#11)
That's pretty extreme. I've never had that happen. It scares me to know what I'd have done to her when she brought up the knife to my face. It would not have ended well for her. At minimum, a compound fracture of her arm. You play with the bull, you get the horns. .
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ruin everything, including sig lines.
#16. To: alteredreality (#13) (Edited)
They can be exceptionally charming and manipulative, and love bomb you to the point you're so dizzy you don't know what's going on. I worked in domestic violence for years and I can say that there are some that are so see thru, however the system isn't set up to weed them out!
"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson
#17. To: Turtle (#14)
But they do get in the way sometimes. It's why I like pugs -- they are never a red flag.
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ruin everything, including sig lines.
#18. To: PSUSA (#17)
I took that photo, y'know.
"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson
#19. To: alteredreality (#13)
I'm sure this is familiar to you.
"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson
#20. To: Turtle (#19)
Very...however the system is set up to make this man become not the victim but the asshole for taping her!!!!!! He is the bad man for "emotionally" terrorizing her!
I'm sure this is familiar to you.
#21. To: Turtle (#19)
Just damn. There are some effed-up people out there. I cannot conceive of being in any relationship, much less marriage, such as that. (Part 1 was plenty enough for me.)
Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.
#22. To: Turtle (#1)
Very good site to help understand and avoid these people. For some it is difficult because they are attracted to what they know, and crazy is what they know. Peace. http://shrink4men.wordpress.com/
#23. To: Lysander_Spooner (#22)
I looked through several of the articles. She's one of those women who realizes the media portrayal of men is almost completely untrue, so she's going to the opposite side and pointing out all the awful things women do. I'll bet she makes a pretty good living at it, explaining to these men what is wrong with the women they got involved with.
http://shrink4men.wordpress.com/
"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson
#24. To: alteredreality, Turtle (#4)
LOL
I believe you were shacked up with my mother in law!
The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.
#25. To: Turtle, Buzzard (#14)
so if I get divorced I have to get rid of my cat? actually I'm allergic and the cat would go with him anyway but still...
Even one cat is a red flag past age 30, never married or divorced.
The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.
#26. To: Turtle (#23)
She is pretty good at calling a crazy beotch a crazy beotch ;)
#27. To: Turtle (#0)
...within about three hours there was something quite wrong with her, but I did not know exactly what. I ended up seeing her for a few weeks ... Within the first TEN minutes?? Did you have hooters-on-the brain? Aaah, yes - when we were young... Hopefully you never got to the point, "And you can't make me leave."
The first red flag: if they start talking about how they were sexually abused when younger, stay away. I mean if they start talking about it within the first TEN MINUTES of meeting them. That’s what this woman did...
#28. To: Turtle (#14)
It's why I like pugs -- they are never a red flag. But is there a cut-off on the number of owned pugs before being considered "red-flag material" by the ladies? Hmmm....
Even one cat is a red flag past age 30, never married or divorced.
#29. To: Liberator (#28)
I figure three is the cut-off point, unless you're rich and don't have to work.
But is there a cut-off on the number of owned pugs before being considered "red-flag material" by the ladies? Hmmm....
"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson
#30. To: Turtle, irishthatcherite (#29)
I'd use that as a cut-off as well, although ladies with two cats may find this a little sexist. Though I'm sure you could handle it, the 4th pug would put you in questionable social territory. I gotta ask: Do you have picture(s) of your pug(s) in your wallet?
I figure three is the cut-off point, unless you're rich and don't have to work.
#31. To: Liberator, Turtle (#30)
I know not about pugs. lol
Solutions for Ireland. Say NO to the IMF/World bank. Default on our debt. Print our own debt free currency. Nationalise the trillion euros worth of gas and oil off our west coast. Take back our fishing (200 billion worth). Get our farmers growing again. Done deal if our politicians had the backbone. ~ Jim Corr
#32. To: Liberator (#30)
No pictures of pug in my wallet. Some on my computer, though.
I gotta ask: Do you have picture(s) of your pug(s) in your wallet?
"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson
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