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Title: Turtle’s Free Guide to Avoiding Crazy Women
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Published: Mar 21, 2011
Author: Turtle
Post Date: 2011-03-21 12:51:09 by Turtle
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Views: 2425
Comments: 32

Some years ago I met a woman who was like no woman I had ever met before. I knew within about three hours there was something quite wrong with her, but I did not know exactly what. I ended up seeing her for a few weeks and in that time came to some conclusions.

After much thought, I was able to formulate Turtle’s Guide to Avoiding Crazy Women.

The first red flag: if they start talking about how they were sexually abused when younger, stay away. I mean if they start talking about it within the first TEN MINUTES of meeting them.

That’s what this woman did, and I realized she was portraying herself as a victim. Then, not too long after the abuse stories, she told me that men are responsible for all (or maybe she said almost all) the problems in the world.

That’s the second red flag, because she was again portraying herself as a victim. When anyone – male or female – does this, they are full of hostility toward the other sex.

Since these people portray themselves as victims, they believe they’re always in the right, which means YOU are always in the wrong.

They have no sense of your boundaries, which they are always violating. On the other hand, they are excruciatingly sensitive to you violating their boundaries, to the point they imagine it when it’s not there.

She once told her she thought she was a stopgap to me, on my way to another woman. The idea had never occurred to me, and wasn’t true in the slightest. In fact, when I tried to protest, I couldn’t get a word in. Again, she was portraying herself as a victim – this time of me.

People like this are known as “character disorders.” To them, it’s never their fault; it’s always your fault. They don’t even know they’re doing it, and if you point it out, it doesn’t register. That’s why therapy doesn’t work on these people.

One of my friends got involved with a woman like this, because she hid what she was for a few months. It took him quite a while to get her out of his condo, and for a while ended up drinking a bottle of wine a night because of the stress. I told him he was an abused man.

Incidentally, most men who are abused by women don’t even know they’re being abused! It takes quite a while for the fact to penetrate.

Another bizarre thing about people like this is that they lack empathy, and don’t even know it. It’s why they wreak havoc in people’s lives, and especially in intimate relationships. It’s because your feelings don’t count. Again, they don’t do this on purpose – they don’t even know they’re doing it, and when it’s pointed out, still can’t realize it.

These people unfortunately can’t have real relationships, since other people, since they believe, even if they don’t know it, that other people exist to serve them. In a phrase, they lack respect and consideration for others.

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#4. To: Turtle (#0)

People like this are known as “character disorders.” To them, it’s never their fault; it’s always your fault. They don’t even know they’re doing it, and if you point it out, it doesn’t register. That’s why therapy doesn’t work on these people.

I believe you were shacked up with my mother in law!

alteredreality  posted on  2011-03-21   13:27:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: alteredreality (#4)

I believe you were shacked up with my mother in law!

I believe these people make up about two percent of the population. They cause an astronomical amount of problems in proportion to their numbers.

Turtle  posted on  2011-03-21   13:29:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Turtle (#5)

They cause an astronomical amount of problems in proportion to their numbers.

How can they cause damage unless people decide they want to put up with their nonsense?

You said that you put up with her for a few weeks. Sorry, but IMO that is your own fault. You could have kicked her to the curb long before then.

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PSUSA  posted on  2011-03-21   13:35:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: PSUSA (#6) (Edited)

How can they cause damage unless people decide they want to put up with their nonsense?

They very often hard to discover what they are until it's too late.

I saw through her in a few hours.

Most people, it takes months or years.

They can be very charming and manipulative.

Turtle  posted on  2011-03-21   13:37:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Turtle (#9)

I dont know. Maybe I just have a short fuse when it comes to this stuff. At the first sign of manipulation: poof! She's gone. And 'god' help her if she gives an ultimatum.

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PSUSA  posted on  2011-03-21   13:48:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: PSUSA (#10)

Sometimes they're really obvious, like this one, and sometimes they're not.

Turtle  posted on  2011-03-21   13:57:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Turtle (#11)

Sometimes they're really obvious, like this one, and sometimes they're not.

I worked in domestic violence for years and I can say that there are some that are so see thru, however the system isn't set up to weed them out!

alteredreality  posted on  2011-03-21   14:05:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: alteredreality (#13)

I'm sure this is familiar to you.

Turtle  posted on  2011-03-21   14:44:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Turtle (#19)

Just damn.

There are some effed-up people out there.

I cannot conceive of being in any relationship, much less marriage, such as that.

(Part 1 was plenty enough for me.)

Lod  posted on  2011-03-21   16:38:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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