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Title: So that's what they mean by the “War on Poverty”
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... hats_what_they_mean_by_the.php
Published: Mar 18, 2011
Author: PZ Myers
Post Date: 2011-03-22 17:25:22 by CadetD
Keywords: cashless, society
Views: 1942
Comments: 91

Minnesota is leading the way. Our Rethuglicans have figured out how to end poverty: by making it illegal to have money if you're poor? Wait, that makes no sense.

Minnesota Republicans are pushing legislation that would make it a crime for people on public assistance to have more $20 in cash in their pockets any given month.

Lest you think our most contemptible lawmakers have no heart at all, consider that this is the generous version of their earlier plan.

This represents a change from their initial proposal, which banned them from having any money at all.

I'm not sure what they're thinking. If they're so poor, the only way they could have any money is if they stole it from a rich guy? Or something? Maybe they're just setting up a perfect Catch 22: now the police can roust someone who looks poor, and if they've got no money, send them to jail for vagrancy; if they've got more than $20, arrest them for possession of illegal currency.

Some people don't believe me. Here's the link to the proposed legislation. They want to give all benefits via a debit card so they can restrict and monitor purchases. And if this is their sole source of income, that means they're only allowed a cash allowance of $20/month. Control, control, control.

Section 1. [256.9870] ELECTRONIC BENEFIT TRANSFER DEBIT CARD. Subdivision 1. Electronic benefit transfer or EBT debit card. (a) Electronic benefit transfer (EBT) debit cardholders in the general assistance program and the Minnesota supplemental aid program under chapter 256D and programs under chapter 256J are prohibited from withdrawing cash from an automatic teller machine or receiving cash from vendors with the EBT debit card. The EBT debit card may only be used as a debit card. (b) Beginning July 1, 2011, cash benefits for programs listed under paragraph (a) must be issued on a separate EBT card with the head of household's name printed on the card. The card must also state that "It is unlawful to use this card to purchase tobacco products or alcoholic beverages." This card must be issued within 30 calendar days of an eligibility determination. During the initial 30 calendar days of eligibility, a recipient may have cash benefits issued on an EBT card without the recipient's name printed on the card. This card may be the same card on which food support is issued and does not need to meet the requirements of this section. (c) Notwithstanding paragraph (a), EBT cardholders may opt to have up to $20 per month accessible via automatic teller machine or receive up to $20 cash back from a vendor.

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http://wonkette.com/440932/minnesota-republicans-to-outlaw-poor-people-having-money; Link to legislation: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bin/bldbill.php?bill=H0171.1.html&session=ls87

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#5. To: CadetD (#0)

The free ride is about to be over and it's about time. Stealing from one group of people, to give to another, is an abomination we have played into for far to long.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2011-03-22   19:11:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Freedomsnotfree (#5)

The free ride is about to be over and it's about time. Stealing from one group of people, to give to another, is an abomination we have played into for far to long.

I agree with all of your responses....couldn't resist posting this for the sheer entertainment aspect; not that I feel sorry for the schmucks.

CadetD  posted on  2011-03-22   19:50:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: CadetD (#6)

couldn't resist posting this for the sheer entertainment aspect; not that I feel sorry for the schmucks.

Maybe one of these days you and your family will be part of that group, and people can laugh at you and make it illegal for you to have money.

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-03-22   20:14:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: FormerLurker (#9)

Maybe one of these days you and your family will be part of that group, and people can laugh at you and make it illegal for you to have money.

I meant how insane this legislation is, which would mean that I'd think the policy cruel. However, you do see how others here are offended by the idiocy of welfare recipients buying junk food, etc. Geez!

CadetD  posted on  2011-03-22   20:28:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#13. To: CadetD (#10)

I think one poster in one breath said he was a bit jealous that the people with the EBT card in front of him at the store were buying cuts of meat that he was too cheap to buy for himself (ie. they were going to cook it to feed a large family perhaps), and in the other he said "welfare recipients should ONLY have access to healthy food".

Are Encore frozen dinners made with artificial "meat" what he had in mind perhaps?

Myself, I think the bankers and corporate shysters are ripping off EVERYONE, and if anything, we need to focus on stopping THEM first. THEN we can go pick on the kids who get free milk and stuff at school, if so inclined. But they should NOT be the FIRST group of people seen as the "problem", they are where they are DUE to those who steal TRILLIONS of dollars.

As far as those who don't belong here in the first place, they should be denied ANY assistance whatsover except for whatever charity they can get from their church of choice, but for Americans who are simply down on their luck, now is not the time to strip of them of what little they have.

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-03-22 20:54:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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