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Title: So that's what they mean by the “War on Poverty”
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... hats_what_they_mean_by_the.php
Published: Mar 18, 2011
Author: PZ Myers
Post Date: 2011-03-22 17:25:22 by CadetD
Keywords: cashless, society
Views: 2070
Comments: 91

Minnesota is leading the way. Our Rethuglicans have figured out how to end poverty: by making it illegal to have money if you're poor? Wait, that makes no sense.

Minnesota Republicans are pushing legislation that would make it a crime for people on public assistance to have more $20 in cash in their pockets any given month.

Lest you think our most contemptible lawmakers have no heart at all, consider that this is the generous version of their earlier plan.

This represents a change from their initial proposal, which banned them from having any money at all.

I'm not sure what they're thinking. If they're so poor, the only way they could have any money is if they stole it from a rich guy? Or something? Maybe they're just setting up a perfect Catch 22: now the police can roust someone who looks poor, and if they've got no money, send them to jail for vagrancy; if they've got more than $20, arrest them for possession of illegal currency.

Some people don't believe me. Here's the link to the proposed legislation. They want to give all benefits via a debit card so they can restrict and monitor purchases. And if this is their sole source of income, that means they're only allowed a cash allowance of $20/month. Control, control, control.

Section 1. [256.9870] ELECTRONIC BENEFIT TRANSFER DEBIT CARD. Subdivision 1. Electronic benefit transfer or EBT debit card. (a) Electronic benefit transfer (EBT) debit cardholders in the general assistance program and the Minnesota supplemental aid program under chapter 256D and programs under chapter 256J are prohibited from withdrawing cash from an automatic teller machine or receiving cash from vendors with the EBT debit card. The EBT debit card may only be used as a debit card. (b) Beginning July 1, 2011, cash benefits for programs listed under paragraph (a) must be issued on a separate EBT card with the head of household's name printed on the card. The card must also state that "It is unlawful to use this card to purchase tobacco products or alcoholic beverages." This card must be issued within 30 calendar days of an eligibility determination. During the initial 30 calendar days of eligibility, a recipient may have cash benefits issued on an EBT card without the recipient's name printed on the card. This card may be the same card on which food support is issued and does not need to meet the requirements of this section. (c) Notwithstanding paragraph (a), EBT cardholders may opt to have up to $20 per month accessible via automatic teller machine or receive up to $20 cash back from a vendor.

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http://wonkette.com/440932/minnesota-republicans-to-outlaw-poor-people-having-money; Link to legislation: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bin/bldbill.php?bill=H0171.1.html&session=ls87

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#5. To: CadetD (#0)

The free ride is about to be over and it's about time. Stealing from one group of people, to give to another, is an abomination we have played into for far to long.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2011-03-22   19:11:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Freedomsnotfree, FormerLurker (#5)

The free ride is about to be over and it's about time. Stealing from one group of people, to give to another, is an abomination we have played into for far to long.

That's right! Let them eat cake.

After all it's not like we have more important thieves to worry about like the banksters and the matter of 17 Trillion plus. After all those guys at Goldmine Sacks earned those multimillion dollar bonuses and NYC is just sooooooooo expensive.

To hell with the food stamp recipients - who cares if they can't find anything with the unemployment rate, the real rate, hovering around 22% (and higher in my area). After all there are a lot of good garbage cans to raid.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-03-22   21:07:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Original_Intent (#15)

That's right! Let them eat cake.

After all it's not like we have more important thieves to worry about like the banksters and the matter of 17 Trillion plus. After all those guys at Goldmine Sacks earned those multimillion dollar bonuses and NYC is just sooooooooo expensive.

Hank Paulson, one year after he was Sec of Treasury made FIVE BILLION DOLLARS .

No problem with Luke the Shill with that.

Hes pissed that maybe some smuck got a quart of beer that he was not legal.

What a fucnnnk ass.

tom007  posted on  2011-03-22   22:46:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: tom007 (#31)

Hank Paulson, one year after he was Sec of Treasury made FIVE BILLION DOLLARS .

And of course he "earned" all of that and it was not a payback for official favors. And Ted Bundy was a poor misunderstood kid.

Hes pissed that maybe some smuck got a quart of beer that he was not legal.

I would be just as happy to see it go back to the way it was before food stamps. The USDA Food Program supplied US Grown Products that were surplus in sufficient quantities that kept people from hunger. It wasn't fancy but it was edible and nutritious - no Doritos and No Beer. However, it was decided that the Food Stamp Program cost less and required fewer government workers to administer it. So, the USDA Food Program was replaced with food stamps.

I do have quibbles. I don't think it should be possible to buy junk food on food stamps, but otherwise I don't favor starving people to death either.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-03-22   23:04:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Original_Intent (#37)

And of course he "earned" all of that and it was not a payback for official favors.

By the sweat of his brow digging ditches for the sewage lines for the village.

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