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Title: Cold water on home gardening
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URL Source: http://lubbockonline.com/local-news ... ce-helps-sustainable-gardening
Published: Apr 2, 2011
Author: james
Post Date: 2011-04-02 01:54:21 by Tatarewicz
Keywords: None
Views: 192
Comments: 11

Comment following sustainable gardening article:

Home By james999 | 03/28/11

gardening is too expensive and too time consuming for most people. By the time one pays for all that city water, one could buy a lot more food at the store. And that's very marginal considering that one gives all their time to raising the plants. Giving time is the operative word, too. Without a lot of time to kill, gardening at home is a joke. Hours spent in a garden bring far less than minimum wage. Pennies on the hour is more like it. Having a garden is more about killing weeds than raising food to eat. Having a house full of kids to do the weeding is important, otherwise, a home garden is a waste of time. If one buys all those supplies mentioned, home gardening is also a waste of money. One thing that is not a waste though is finding out first hand the ridiculous notion of raising bug-free plants without the judicious use of chemical tools. There is nothing sustainable about bugs eating all the corn. Brussels sprouts raised without chemical tools is so buggy as to be disgusting. What kind of dangerous chemicals are in the nasty bugs that inhabit organic Brussels sprouts? If you are serious about saving water, buy your groceries at the store. The vegetables are grown in the most efficient manner possible when mass produced.

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#1. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

What the fuck...

james999

Card carrying member of the NWO.

titorite  posted on  2011-04-02   1:58:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tatarewicz, titorite (#0)

At first, I was inclined to agree with James but honestly, gardening can be fun and rewarding. It doesn't take long to weed the garden. No longer than driving to the grocery store, grocery shopping and driving back home does. Bugs are no great deal either.

Turn the tv off. There's nothing on there but lies anyway. In the time most people take to watch the news they could garden once a day.

If you need instructions on how to weed....

just go to the grocery store.


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wudidiz  posted on  2011-04-02   2:16:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: wudidiz (#2)

I garden.

When it rains I don't water ... when it's dry I water... When I go outside to smoke I weed by hand because I dislike monsanto chemicals.

If I wanted I could do the intensive bucket method...

www.associatedcontent.com...g_growing_vegetables.html

But I feel fine with what I do and what I have.

titorite  posted on  2011-04-02   2:21:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#2)

www.thegardenhelper.com/bugs.html


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wudidiz  posted on  2011-04-02   2:25:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: titorite (#3)

I was looking at the tire method.

www.google.ca/#hl=en&sour...=&oq=&fp=882849600ad9521b

What do you think?


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wudidiz  posted on  2011-04-02   2:27:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: wudidiz (#5)

Another interesting method.

Their are a variety of high yield methods.

What works the best I think is what works for you.

titorite  posted on  2011-04-02   2:52:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: titorite (#6)

high yield methods

We have different climates I know, but what would you do with a 10 by 30 plot?

That is, what vegetable(s) and what method(s)?


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wudidiz  posted on  2011-04-02   4:01:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: wudidiz (#7) (Edited)

We have different climates I know, but what would you do with a 10 by 30 plot?

That still seriously depends on alot of factors.

IF just dirt...Tomatoes , green beans, and broccoli...medina hasta gro as a fertilizer.

Criagslist has all kinds of free glass (windows mirrors glass and so on) on its free list. I bring that up as a cheap method to build a cheap green house.

if you want to do something hydroponically with out the mess of elaborate pipes there is crystal earth

watergelcrystals.com/

It is a kind of water absorbing gel..Good stuff.

I have something in my back yard along the lines of 10 x 30 approx...

I use two mirrors at each end to double up on the sunlight... burnt wood in the dirt for extra CO2...but thats me and I like to play and talk to my plants.

titorite  posted on  2011-04-02   4:11:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: wudidiz (#7)

what would you do with a 10 by 30 plot?

Probably good idea to rotate (major) crops. One year potatoes, next onions, then beets and so on to discourage development of particular diseases.

A major problem I've encountered recently is with the apple maggot ruining a 2,000 apple crop from a single tree. Will try to combat it by picking apples early, storing them on separator trays in apple boxes, then destroying the "eggs" that collect on the separators.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2011-04-02   5:28:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: titorite (#8)

In addition to talking to your plants, probably should play music:

Plants Respond to Music

Did you know that your plants respond to music the same as human beings do? It has been proven scientifically through many experiments that plants thrive on music, though there are some who do not agree with the theory. Gardeners, however, have no doubt that fading flowers get a new lease of life by music and flowers blossom in their fullest glory listening to music. In 1973, Dorothy Retallack's book The Sound of Music and Plants based on scientific experiments created ripples.

Retallack began her experiment at the Colorado Women's College in Denver. Using three separate laboratories containing the same species of plants, Retallack began her experiment. Piping in different types of music to each facility, she recorded the daily growth of each plant. The results were quite surprising. The plants in the laboratory where music was played daily for three hours a day grew twice as large and became twice as healthy as those in a music-free environment. On the other extreme, plants in the laboratory where music was played for eight hours a day died within two weeks of the start of the experiment.

Dorothy Retallack tried experimenting with different types of music. She played rock to one group of plants and, soothing music to another. The group that heard rock turned out to be sickly and small whereas the other group grew large and healthy. What's more surprising is that the group of plants listening to the soothing music grew bending towards the radio just as they bend towards the sunlight.

This experiment encouraged many individuals and organizations to exercise the act of playing music to plants. These connoisseurs of music warn you about the sort of music that you play. The plants will grow better if you play soft soothing music of old era instead of loud rock music of Gen X.

The noisy rock music will only make the plants grow feeble and sick. Preferably, play Mozart, Bach, or Beethoven to make your plant grow better. Another important point that we can pick up from Retallack's experiments is the duration of music. If you are keen on playing music to your plants, keep the time limit to be about three hour. This will make the plants grow healthy and properly. An overdose of music can seriously destroy the plants.

Although music is not an absolutely proven factor in plant development, several studies, along with Dorothy Retallack's groundbreaking series of experiments, have aided the musical development theory. If you are interested in exploring this option with your own garden, consult The Sound of Music and Plants or other resources to ensure you expose your plants to the optimal type of music for the appropriate amount of time.

Do you want to use this article on your website? ukpianos.co.uk gives you permission to copy this article and use it, providing you include this author's biog box.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2011-04-02   5:35:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: wudidiz (#2)

If you need instructions on how to weed

The best method we have found (by far) is weed barrier.Once rolled out and properly staked,(get the good stuff,extra thick,black on one side & white on the other)this stuff works.Around the plant base a few stubborn weed grasses will appear,just yank their buts out.Gardening is cool,it is very rewarding to go out and pick your sides for the nights meal.Our garden is 25' x 100' and expanding.Our brussel sprouts stay relatively bug free,but our cabbage has to be stripped down a few layers.Okra is great,squash,brocolli,corn(last years corn was yummy)potatoes,tomatoes,every berry,peaches,apples,cherries,etc. Might I suggest always use your own seeds,use feeding stakes on all fruit trees,shoot any red wing blackbirds.We see the amish around here using the weed barrier,and they know their stuff.We are facing a crisis,better learn to grow your own food,and if you do not have a well,try using rain barrels.

paddlefeet  posted on  2011-04-02   7:40:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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