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Title: Einstein exposed as a phony by 12-year-old?
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URL Source: http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/wews-1 ... ving-einsteins-theory-of-relat
Published: Apr 2, 2011
Author: * By Garrett Downing (WEWS)
Post Date: 2011-04-02 03:57:40 by Tatarewicz
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Views: 1148
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Home : News : 12-year-old genius takes aim as disproving Einstein's Theory of Relativity

HAMILTON COUNTY, Ind. - What were you doing when you were 12 years old?

Playing video games? Dreaming of winning a Heisman Trophy? Maybe starting to show a little interest in a significant other?

It’s probably safe to say you weren’t taking on Albert Einstein’s Theory of Relativity.

Well, that’s what 12-year-old Jake Barnet, of Hamilton County, Indiana, is proposing. Jake has become somewhat of an Internet star thanks to YouTube videos of his ideas about mathematics and physics, which his mom shoots and posts online.

In one of the most recent videos, Jake discusses Einstein’s Theory of relativity, explaining in the description why he might have a different theory:

“My initial perception from this is that light does have mass,” Jake writes. “Obviously, energy coming out of a system where light is emitted could not be conserved otherwise. You can correct me later if I change my mind, but for the moment this is my perception.”

Jake has a mild form of autism, according to http://Time.com, and he also has an I.Q. of 170. He taught himself calculus, algebra and geometry in two weeks and graduated high school at the age of eight. He has been attending college-level physics classes since then.

The channel with all of his videos has thousands of hits.

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#13. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

It’s probably safe to say you weren’t taking on Albert Einstein’s Theory of Relativity.

Actually, yes, I was taking on Albert Einstein’s Theory of Relativity around that age. I was (was?) a total nerd with a Commodore Vic-20 computer. I wrote programs to explore Relativity. My goal was to find a loophole to allow FTL travel.

I predict Jake Barnet will fail, but wish him luck trying.

Armadillo  posted on  2011-04-02   22:35:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Armadillo, Tatarewicz (#13)

My goal was to find a loophole to allow FTL travel.

I also have the suspicion that FTL travel is possible. I view the speed of light as simply the propagation velocity of energy through the medium of space-time. You can compare the speed of light to the speed a wave would travel through water by dropping a pebble into it, where instead of water we're talking about space-time.

The wave of water can only travel at a certain velocity, whereas a boat which propels that water with a propeller can move MUCH faster than the wave could.

Hence, since a physical object differs from light itself as it is not simply a propagation of energy through space-time, it could actually propel itself through that medium faster than a wave of light could travel.

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-04-02   22:49:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: FormerLurker, Armadillo, Tatarewicz (#14)

Hence, since a physical object differs from light itself as it is not simply a propagation of energy through space-time, it could actually propel itself through that medium faster than a wave of light could travel.

My understanding was not that the object couldn't travel faster but that they expand as they get faster and it was this expansion that was limiting.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-04-02   22:54:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: farmfriend (#16) (Edited)

My understanding was not that the object couldn't travel faster but that they expand as they get faster and it was this expansion that was limiting.

While at the same time, the amount of energy required to accelerate would approach infinity as one got closer to the speed of light.

Who knows what would really happen till someone tries it.

I figure if we were to build a ship that could accelerate at one earth gravity for about a year the ship would be at the speed of light by the end of that time. It would be during the last month or so relavistic effects would be noticed, and it'd become clear whether or not the acceleration was decreasing.

However, since time dilates in proportion to the velocity, perhaps not a whole year would go by on the ship till it reached actual light speed. In fact, it could be that as one reached apparent light speed, time would have slowed down so much the velocity might APPEAR to be faster than light.

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-04-02   23:07:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: FormerLurker, Armadillo, Tatarewicz (#19) (Edited)

well I really think the answer will be quantum tunneling. They have already managed to accede exceed the speed of light, sort of, by using a quantum tunnel.

'We have broken speed of light'

farmfriend  posted on  2011-04-03   2:20:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: farmfriend (#24)

With all of your high-powered knowledge whats with your use of "accede" (rather than exceed)?

I like your URL conversion. How do you do it?

Tatarewicz  posted on  2011-04-03   4:07:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Tatarewicz (#25)

With all of your high-powered knowledge whats with your use of "accede" (rather than exceed)?

Late at night, tired. Had a migraine yesterday that wouldn't go away. Messes with my thought processes. And I can't spell worth a darn. I know a PhD in orbital mechanics that can't spell either but damn he can do math. Once I used succeed when I meant to use secede. Happens. I've gotten better with Firefox's built in spell checker but sadly it won't catch wrong word use. I do know the difference but I don't always catch it.

I like your URL conversion. How do you do it?

I'll add spaces. I know there is a code you can use so you can post it normal and have it show up but I don't remember it. I also seem to be the only one on this forum who does proper blockquoting when quoting more than once.

< a href = URL here > what you want link to say < /a>

farmfriend  posted on  2011-04-03   4:19:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#30. To: farmfriend (#27)

Migraines could be due to something in diet...something that dilates blood vessels. Second-hand smoke used to trigger mine years ago.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2011-04-03 06:25:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: farmfriend (#27)

I also seem to be the only one on this forum who does proper blockquoting when quoting more than once.

ok.

blah blah blah

there.

1 more time

;-)

Artisan  posted on  2011-04-03 11:22:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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