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Title: Einstein exposed as a phony by 12-year-old?
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URL Source: http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/wews-1 ... ving-einsteins-theory-of-relat
Published: Apr 2, 2011
Author: * By Garrett Downing (WEWS)
Post Date: 2011-04-02 03:57:40 by Tatarewicz
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Home : News : 12-year-old genius takes aim as disproving Einstein's Theory of Relativity HAMILTON COUNTY, Ind. - What were you doing when you were 12 years old? Playing video games? Dreaming of winning a Heisman Trophy? Maybe starting to show a little interest in a significant other? It’s probably safe to say you weren’t taking on Albert Einstein’s Theory of Relativity. Well, that’s what 12-year-old Jake Barnet, of Hamilton County, Indiana, is proposing. Jake has become somewhat of an Internet star thanks to YouTube videos of his ideas about mathematics and physics, which his mom shoots and posts online. In one of the most recent videos, Jake discusses Einstein’s Theory of relativity, explaining in the description why he might have a different theory: “My initial perception from this is that light does have mass,” Jake writes. “Obviously, energy coming out of a system where light is emitted could not be conserved otherwise. You can correct me later if I change my mind, but for the moment this is my perception.” Jake has a mild form of autism, according to http://Time.com, and he also has an I.Q. of 170. He taught himself calculus, algebra and geometry in two weeks and graduated high school at the age of eight. He has been attending college-level physics classes since then. The channel with all of his videos has thousands of hits.
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#18. To: farmfriend (#16)
Once you get to the speed of light squared then you're pure energy according to E=mC2.
While at the same time, the amount of energy required to accelerate would approach infinity as one got closer to the speed of light. Who knows what would really happen till someone tries it. I figure if we were to build a ship that could accelerate at one earth gravity for about a year the ship would be at the speed of light by the end of that time. It would be during the last month or so relavistic effects would be noticed, and it'd become clear whether or not the acceleration was decreasing. However, since time dilates in proportion to the velocity, perhaps not a whole year would go by on the ship till it reached actual light speed. In fact, it could be that as one reached apparent light speed, time would have slowed down so much the velocity might APPEAR to be faster than light.
It has to do with energy. If I remember correctly, if there were some way to jump the light barrier an objects kinetic energy would decrease the faster it went past light speed. Up to about 1.4X light speed, past that an objects energy would be less than inertial energy (that's probably a bad thing). The above is based on vague recollections of computer simulations I ran 30 years ago.
That is the part of relativity that I think might be wrong. We won't know for sure until someone builds a ship capable of constant acceleration at 1G for a period of one year.
Actually, that's not quite true. E=mc2 is simply an equation which shows how much energy is available in a given mass in terms of MKS units. Thus, if you have 1 kilogram of mass, you would have c2 joules of energy available in that mass if you could convert the entire mass to energy. Since light travels at 299,792,458 meters per second, and the square of that is 89,875,517,873,681,764 (or 89.9 x 1015), then you'd have that many joules of energy for a 1 kilogram object.
E=mC2 gives the inertial (rest) energy. There is another Einstein formula for kinetic (velocity) energy. well I really think the answer will be quantum tunneling. They have already managed to The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.
With all of your high-powered knowledge whats with your use of "accede" (rather than exceed)? I like your URL conversion. How do you do it?
Light-speed travel is really academic. Wouldn't be able to avoid crashing into solid objects in space, black holes.
Late at night, tired. Had a migraine yesterday that wouldn't go away. Messes with my thought processes. And I can't spell worth a darn. I know a PhD in orbital mechanics that can't spell either but damn he can do math. Once I used succeed when I meant to use secede. Happens. I've gotten better with Firefox's built in spell checker but sadly it won't catch wrong word use. I do know the difference but I don't always catch it. I'll add spaces. I know there is a code you can use so you can post it normal and have it show up but I don't remember it. I also seem to be the only one on this forum who does proper blockquoting when quoting more than once. < a href = URL here > what you want link to say < /a>
The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.
There is also a theoretical particle called the tachyon which exists only at velocities greater than "c". As well other thoughts on getting around the speed of light limitations, although I suspect but cannot prove that it is not a limit, would be to change the vibrational state of matter shifting it into an out of phase condition with the physical universe somewhere between this universe and one of the parallel ones and thus sidestepping collisions with matter in the extant universe. That also suggests a possibility of change vector orientation and thus effectively shortening the distance between two points in this universe by transiting through another at an angle to this one.
That's all well and good, but I think a ship at 1G acceleration traveling out into the cosmos for a one year mission would reveal a LOT about what we need to know about star travel. [1 year mission if robotic] Migraines could be due to something in diet...something that dilates blood vessels. Second-hand smoke used to trigger mine years ago.
ok. there. ;-)
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 mine are hormones. Hell being female.
The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.
LOL
The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.
That in no way proves the absurd theory of relativity.
God is always good!
Here you are wrong. The majority of people accept the theory of relativity. NONE understand it, they just ACCEPT it. Parroting what others have said is not understanding anything or knowing anything.
God is always good!
Although we may already have the technology. The late Mr. Northrop, founder of Northrop Aviation, is supposed to have commented to a small group at a dinner party "we have the technology but they won't let us go". Who "they" is remains unknown. Another more recent was the former head of the "Skunk Works" making a similar comment to his son while he was in the hospital. That we already have the technology but that it is buried deep in "black" world super secrecy. I think it obvious it can be done. All of those visitors who stop by aren't getting here on their skateboards.
So you believe in aliens despite not ever seeing them? You trust others accounts on this matter? You don't trust the government about anything, but you trust that we have been visited by aliens because of unprovable rumors? Everyone should think for themselves like this boy is doing. Don't believe anything just because you have heard it, even if it comes from people you trust, they could be sincerely wrong.
God is always good!
I'll ask you again. What part of it do you disagree with? I don't agree with the entire thing myself, I'm just curious which part of it YOU disagree with.
I'm not interested in debating it but not because there is not a substantial body of evidence. Just because the government started a PsyOp in the 50's telling people they aren't seeing what they are seeing is no more factual than "Alice Through the Looking Glass". True, and I commend you for your attempt to do so. Keep trying you'll get the hang of it yet.
Hahahahahaha !!!!!
"What is required is the abolition of the Federal Reserve and its insidious control over the economic life of America. Instead of tax bills, the bankers and their hirelings need to be served with court summons. The bankers should be charged with financial crimes against humanity, not tax avoidance. " - Kurt Nimmo -2011
I'm a baaaaaaaaaaaad boy. ;-)
You obviously don't trust anything that you can't understand.
Obviously a cloud of "Swamp Gas" or a "low flying Seagull" looking for Flying Fish. /Sarcasm
Sorry it does not look like an extra terrestrial space craft.
The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.
Then, to you, what does it look like? What does an extraterrestrial craft look like?
It looks like the Hindenburg. Ok let me qualify that. It looks terrestrial therefore I have a hard time leaping to the extraterrestrial explanation.
The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.
Did you watch the entire video, or just the first few seconds?
Yes I watched the whole thing.
The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.
So how many blimps that you know of glow bright green through thick cloud cover, lighting up almost the entire cloud, then drop to earth as two flashing green spherical objects?
I'm not going to debate this with you. Looks like someone was hoaxing and their hoax blue up and fell out of the sky. Case closed as far as I'm concerned.
The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.
The flash was not an explosion. Also, if you REALLY look at it, the lights were alternating flashes as they descended, and it appears that there were THREE spheres, with one stopping when it came down into a cloud, whereas the other two continued their descent. You need to have an open mind to this sort of thing if you're going to get a clear idea of what you're looking at. If you already have decided something is impossible before you truly look at it, then no matter what you see, it will be a hoax in your eyes.
BTW, are you claiming that the news station over there in Brazil "hoaxed" this?
Of course. It CAN'T be anything else, that would be impossible.
Now you are making assumptions about me personally. This is why I won't debate it with you.
The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.
Realistically, it appears that the object had a boom of some type that it extended shortly before going back into the cloud. I would guess that it launched a couple of probes.
I am simply reacting to what you say, and responding to your views. That did NOT look like something "blew up" and fell out of the sky. But to you it did.
No you are not. Instead of discussing what you see and how it differs from what I see you jumped right into saying I'm this or that. You always resort to the personal, deriding anyone who disagrees with you. Always.
The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.
You have a persecution complex. I said you need to have an open mind, I did not say you are "this or that". Well NOW I just did, you DO appear to be VERY easily offended and begin acting like a huge drama queen whenever someone tries to point out something to you as to why you are wrong.
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#19. To: farmfriend (#16)
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My understanding was not that the object couldn't travel faster but that they expand as they get faster and it was this expansion that was limiting.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#20. To: farmfriend, FormerLurker, Armadillo, Tatarewicz (#16)
My understanding was not that the object couldn't travel faster but that they expand as they get faster and it was this expansion that was limiting.
The faster an object moves the more energy it takes to accelerate faster. Kind of like wind resistance, but with the fabric of space-time instead of air.
To get a pebble to 100% light speed would require an infinite amount of energy.
#21. To: Armadillo (#20)
The faster an object moves the more energy it takes to accelerate faster. Kind of like wind resistance, but with the fabric of space-time instead of air.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#22. To: Tatarewicz (#18)
Once you get to the speed of light squared then you're pure energy according to E=mC2.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#23. To: Tatarewicz (#18)
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Once you get to the speed of light squared then you're pure energy according to E=mC2.
#24. To: FormerLurker, Armadillo, Tatarewicz (#19)
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accede exceed the speed of light, sort of, by using a quantum tunnel.
#25. To: farmfriend (#24)
#26. To: Armadillo (#23)
#27. To: Tatarewicz (#25)
With all of your high-powered knowledge whats with your use of "accede" (rather than exceed)?
I like your URL conversion. How do you do it?
#28. To: Armadillo, FormerLurker (#20)
#29. To: Original_Intent, Armadillo (#28)
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[4 year mission if manned (need to slow down, turn around, and come back]
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#30. To: farmfriend (#27)
#31. To: farmfriend (#27)
I also seem to be the only one on this forum who does proper blockquoting when quoting more than once.
blah blah blah
1 more time
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#32. To: Tatarewicz (#30)
Migraines could be due to something in diet...something that dilates blood vessels. Second-hand smoke used to trigger mine years ago.
#33. To: Artisan (#31)
#34. To: FormerLurker (#12)
If it were impossible, then many things we take for granted today wouldn't exist. GPS navigation is one of those things.
#35. To: FormerLurker (#12)
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The majority of people can't understand the abstract concepts inherent in the theory of relativity. So, they fall back on common man thinking and simply say it's impossible, since they can't understand it.
#36. To: FormerLurker, Armadillo (#29)
#37. To: Original_Intent (#36)
All of those visitors who stop by aren't getting here on their skateboards.
#38. To: RickyJ (#34)
That in no way proves the absurd theory of relativity.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#39. To: RickyJ (#37)
but you trust that we have been visited by aliens because of unprovable rumors?
Everyone should think for themselves ...
#40. To: Original_Intent (#39)
Everyone should think for themselves ... True, and I commend you for your attempt to do so. Keep trying you'll get the hang of it yet.
#41. To: noone222 (#40)
#42. To: RickyJ, Original_Intent (#37)
You don't trust the government about anything, but you trust that we have been visited by aliens because of unprovable rumors?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#43. To: FormerLurker (#42)
#44. To: Original_Intent (#43)
#45. To: farmfriend (#44)
#46. To: Original_Intent (#45)
Then, to you, what does it look like?
What does an extraterrestrial craft look like?
#47. To: farmfriend, Original_Intent (#44)
Sorry it does not look like an extra terrestrial space craft.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#48. To: FormerLurker (#47)
Did you watch the entire video, or just the first few seconds?
#49. To: farmfriend (#48)
Yes I watched the whole thing.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#50. To: FormerLurker (#49)
#51. To: farmfriend (#50)
I'm not going to debate this with you. Looks like someone was hoaxing and their hoax blue up and fell out of the sky. Case closed as far as I'm concerned.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#52. To: farmfriend (#50)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#53. To: Original_Intent (#43)
Obviously a cloud of "Swamp Gas" or a "low flying Seagull" looking for Flying Fish. /Sarcasm
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#54. To: FormerLurker (#51)
You need to have an open mind to this sort of thing if you're going to get a clear idea of what you're looking at. If you already have decided something is impossible before you truly look at it, then no matter what you see, it will be a hoax in your eyes
#55. To: Original_Intent (#43)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#56. To: farmfriend (#54)
Now you are making assumptions about me personally.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#57. To: FormerLurker (#56)
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I am simply reacting to what you say, and responding to your views.
#58. To: farmfriend (#57)
No you are not. Instead of discussing what you see and how it differs from what I see you jumped right into saying I'm this or that. You always resort to the personal, deriding anyone who disagrees with you. Always.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
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