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Title: Einstein exposed as a phony by 12-year-old?
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URL Source: http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/wews-1 ... ving-einsteins-theory-of-relat
Published: Apr 2, 2011
Author: * By Garrett Downing (WEWS)
Post Date: 2011-04-02 03:57:40 by Tatarewicz
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Views: 1933
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Home : News : 12-year-old genius takes aim as disproving Einstein's Theory of Relativity

HAMILTON COUNTY, Ind. - What were you doing when you were 12 years old?

Playing video games? Dreaming of winning a Heisman Trophy? Maybe starting to show a little interest in a significant other?

It’s probably safe to say you weren’t taking on Albert Einstein’s Theory of Relativity.

Well, that’s what 12-year-old Jake Barnet, of Hamilton County, Indiana, is proposing. Jake has become somewhat of an Internet star thanks to YouTube videos of his ideas about mathematics and physics, which his mom shoots and posts online.

In one of the most recent videos, Jake discusses Einstein’s Theory of relativity, explaining in the description why he might have a different theory:

“My initial perception from this is that light does have mass,” Jake writes. “Obviously, energy coming out of a system where light is emitted could not be conserved otherwise. You can correct me later if I change my mind, but for the moment this is my perception.”

Jake has a mild form of autism, according to http://Time.com, and he also has an I.Q. of 170. He taught himself calculus, algebra and geometry in two weeks and graduated high school at the age of eight. He has been attending college-level physics classes since then.

The channel with all of his videos has thousands of hits.

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#13. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

It’s probably safe to say you weren’t taking on Albert Einstein’s Theory of Relativity.

Actually, yes, I was taking on Albert Einstein’s Theory of Relativity around that age. I was (was?) a total nerd with a Commodore Vic-20 computer. I wrote programs to explore Relativity. My goal was to find a loophole to allow FTL travel.

I predict Jake Barnet will fail, but wish him luck trying.

Armadillo  posted on  2011-04-02   22:35:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

My goal was to find a loophole to allow FTL travel.

I also have the suspicion that FTL travel is possible. I view the speed of light as simply the propagation velocity of energy through the medium of space-time. You can compare the speed of light to the speed a wave would travel through water by dropping a pebble into it, where instead of water we're talking about space-time.

The wave of water can only travel at a certain velocity, whereas a boat which propels that water with a propeller can move MUCH faster than the wave could.

Hence, since a physical object differs from light itself as it is not simply a propagation of energy through space-time, it could actually propel itself through that medium faster than a wave of light could travel.

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-04-02   22:49:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Hence, since a physical object differs from light itself as it is not simply a propagation of energy through space-time, it could actually propel itself through that medium faster than a wave of light could travel.

My understanding was not that the object couldn't travel faster but that they expand as they get faster and it was this expansion that was limiting.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-04-02   22:54:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

My understanding was not that the object couldn't travel faster but that they expand as they get faster and it was this expansion that was limiting.

It has to do with energy.
The faster an object moves the more energy it takes to accelerate faster. Kind of like wind resistance, but with the fabric of space-time instead of air.
To get a pebble to 100% light speed would require an infinite amount of energy.

If I remember correctly, if there were some way to jump the light barrier an objects kinetic energy would decrease the faster it went past light speed. Up to about 1.4X light speed, past that an objects energy would be less than inertial energy (that's probably a bad thing).

The above is based on vague recollections of computer simulations I ran 30 years ago.

Armadillo  posted on  2011-04-02   23:07:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

There is also a theoretical particle called the tachyon which exists only at velocities greater than "c".

As well other thoughts on getting around the speed of light limitations, although I suspect but cannot prove that it is not a limit, would be to change the vibrational state of matter shifting it into an out of phase condition with the physical universe somewhere between this universe and one of the parallel ones and thus sidestepping collisions with matter in the extant universe. That also suggests a possibility of change vector orientation and thus effectively shortening the distance between two points in this universe by transiting through another at an angle to this one.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-04-03   4:41:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

That's all well and good, but I think a ship at 1G acceleration traveling out into the cosmos for a one year mission would reveal a LOT about what we need to know about star travel.

[1 year mission if robotic]
[4 year mission if manned (need to slow down, turn around, and come back]

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-04-03   4:53:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Although we may already have the technology.

The late Mr. Northrop, founder of Northrop Aviation, is supposed to have commented to a small group at a dinner party "we have the technology but they won't let us go". Who "they" is remains unknown.

Another more recent was the former head of the "Skunk Works" making a similar comment to his son while he was in the hospital. That we already have the technology but that it is buried deep in "black" world super secrecy.

I think it obvious it can be done. All of those visitors who stop by aren't getting here on their skateboards.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-04-03   13:45:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

All of those visitors who stop by aren't getting here on their skateboards.

So you believe in aliens despite not ever seeing them? You trust others accounts on this matter? You don't trust the government about anything, but you trust that we have been visited by aliens because of unprovable rumors? Everyone should think for themselves like this boy is doing. Don't believe anything just because you have heard it, even if it comes from people you trust, they could be sincerely wrong.

RickyJ  posted on  2011-04-03   14:20:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You don't trust the government about anything, but you trust that we have been visited by aliens because of unprovable rumors?

You obviously don't trust anything that you can't understand.

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-04-03   18:06:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Obviously a cloud of "Swamp Gas" or a "low flying Seagull" looking for Flying Fish. /Sarcasm

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-04-03   18:34:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Sorry it does not look like an extra terrestrial space craft.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-04-03   18:40:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Then, to you, what does it look like?

What does an extraterrestrial craft look like?

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-04-03   18:41:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Then, to you, what does it look like?

It looks like the Hindenburg.

What does an extraterrestrial craft look like?

Ok let me qualify that. It looks terrestrial therefore I have a hard time leaping to the extraterrestrial explanation.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-04-03   18:45:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Then, to you, what does it look like?

It looks like the Hindenburg.

The Hindendburg was Cigar Shaped not half of an oblate spheroid.

What does an extraterrestrial craft look like?

Ok let me qualify that. It looks terrestrial therefore I have a hard time leaping to the extraterrestrial explanation.

In what way does it look terrestrial? Its shape is not even a close resemblance to a Zeppelin. I'm an airship afficianado I know what they look like and that IS NOT an airship.

As well the flash of light is NOT characteristic - and a green tinge is not common in natural phenomena as it is a very narrow spectral band. For example Green Stars are so rare, in part because of the way our eyes work, as to be notable in the unusual circumstance where one is identified. I don't pretend to know what the flash is, or the falling stuff, but I can say it does not look like a natural phenomena.

UFO's are not a matter of belief they are simply a matter of being willing to look at what is there rather than trying to explain it away.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-04-03   21:02:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I contacted one of my science friends for his opinion. (so much for not having an open mind) I wasn't sure but he does speak Portuguese fluently. Anyway, here is part of what he had to say and a related video.

I have lived in Brazil and speak Portuguese fluently. The anchors are speaking about this video that is in YouTube and is attracting the attention of people in Sao Paulo. My impression is that it is an UFO, and that it is not Brazilian made. I don't know if is made by the USA or other country, but in that case, what is the device doing in Sao Paulo state? They don't need secret airships to scrutinize Brazil. They have satellites for doing that without being exposed to public video cameras.

In this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9_Z8QIkUAg&feature=related you can see a better image, with higher contrast and image stabilization, and if you pause the video when the lights appears inside the cloud you'll notice three clear light sources. How the UFO disappeared or what are those two lights falling, I don't know. I am not an alien so I cannot imagine what process was going there.

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