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Title: Einstein exposed as a phony by 12-year-old?
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URL Source: http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/wews-1 ... ving-einsteins-theory-of-relat
Published: Apr 2, 2011
Author: * By Garrett Downing (WEWS)
Post Date: 2011-04-02 03:57:40 by Tatarewicz
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Views: 2037
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Home : News : 12-year-old genius takes aim as disproving Einstein's Theory of Relativity

HAMILTON COUNTY, Ind. - What were you doing when you were 12 years old?

Playing video games? Dreaming of winning a Heisman Trophy? Maybe starting to show a little interest in a significant other?

It’s probably safe to say you weren’t taking on Albert Einstein’s Theory of Relativity.

Well, that’s what 12-year-old Jake Barnet, of Hamilton County, Indiana, is proposing. Jake has become somewhat of an Internet star thanks to YouTube videos of his ideas about mathematics and physics, which his mom shoots and posts online.

In one of the most recent videos, Jake discusses Einstein’s Theory of relativity, explaining in the description why he might have a different theory:

“My initial perception from this is that light does have mass,” Jake writes. “Obviously, energy coming out of a system where light is emitted could not be conserved otherwise. You can correct me later if I change my mind, but for the moment this is my perception.”

Jake has a mild form of autism, according to http://Time.com, and he also has an I.Q. of 170. He taught himself calculus, algebra and geometry in two weeks and graduated high school at the age of eight. He has been attending college-level physics classes since then.

The channel with all of his videos has thousands of hits.

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#7. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

Honestly, I might be wrong about it not taking a genius to see the theory of relativity is wrong. So many people do not think on their own and just parrot what they have "learned" in school and they think they are "educated" by doing so. No, they aren't educated, they are indoctrinated into a belief system. Most "scientists" today are also not geniuses, just indoctrinated zombies like most of the population is. I give credit to this boy to actually think on his own, if only more people would do as him the elite could not rule us as they do now.

RickyJ  posted on  2011-04-02   14:14:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I give credit to this boy to actually think on his own, if only more people would do as him the elite could not rule us as they do now.

Many people have questioned the Theory of Relativity. Not one of them have been able to prove it wrong, including this kid.

And that kid isn't the only genius to have tried.

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-04-02   14:54:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Many people have questioned the Theory of Relativity. Not one of them have been able to prove it wrong, including this kid.

Many people questioned the theory that the Earth was flat at one time, and according to the PTB of that day none of them were able to "prove" it wasn't flat. Just because the majority of people believe something is true, hardly makes it true.

RickyJ  posted on  2011-04-02   17:39:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Just because the majority of people believe something is true, hardly makes it true.

The majority of people can't understand the abstract concepts inherent in the theory of relativity. So, they fall back on common man thinking and simply say it's impossible, since they can't understand it.

If it were impossible, then many things we take for granted today wouldn't exist. GPS navigation is one of those things.

From Introduction to general relativity

One particular set of observations is related to eminently useful practical applications, namely to satellite navigation systems such as the Global Positioning System that are used both for precise positioning and timekeeping. Such systems rely on two sets of atomic clocks: clocks aboard satellites orbiting the Earth, and reference clocks stationed on the Earth's surface. General relativity predicts that these two sets of clocks should tick at slightly different rates, due to their different motions (an effect already predicted by special relativity) and their different positions within the Earth's gravitational field. In order to ensure the system's accuracy, the satellite clocks are either slowed down by a relativistic factor, or that same factor is made part of the evaluation algorithm. In turn, tests of the system's accuracy (especially the very thorough measurements that are part of the definition of universal coordinated time) are testament to the validity of the relativistic predictions.[31]

A number of other tests have probed the validity of various versions of the equivalence principle; strictly speaking, all measurements of gravitational time dilation are tests of the weak version of that principle, not of general relativity itself. So far, general relativity has passed all observational tests.[32]

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-04-02   22:14:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

If it were impossible, then many things we take for granted today wouldn't exist. GPS navigation is one of those things.

That in no way proves the absurd theory of relativity.

RickyJ  posted on  2011-04-03   13:33:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

That in no way proves the absurd theory of relativity.

Actually the theory has been completely tested, and it agrees with observation to a high level of accuracy.
Time dilation and universal speed limit have been tested with particle accelerators.

Armadillo  posted on  2011-04-03   23:23:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Actually the theory has been completely tested

No it has not been completely tested. It is quite impossible to do so since the theory itself violates many firmly established laws of physics that no one argues with, including Einstein. He himself realized there was a big problem with the theory, but hey, when you are being celebrated as he was for coming up with it, he was very reluctant to make a big deal about it not being right, even though it does seem to explain observations in a single frame.

RickyJ  posted on  2011-04-05   17:56:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

No it has not been completely tested. It is quite impossible to do so since the theory itself violates many firmly established laws of physics that no one argues with, including Einstein.

Sorry but that is false.
The theory has been completely tested and agrees with observation to high precision. It does not violate firmly established laws of physics, the theory IS the firmly established law of physics.
The theory can not, and was not intended, to describe quantum level physics. For that there are several competing theorys. They do not compete against Relativity.

When the theory was first published, many scientists disagreed because it disagreed with many popular ideas at the time. Those ideas were found to be false and Relativity was found to be true.

Armadillo  posted on  2011-04-05   20:03:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

When the theory was first published, many scientists disagreed because it disagreed with many popular ideas at the time.

The inventor of the atomic clock wrote as recently as 1988 that the theory was basically rubbish.

RickyJ  posted on  2011-04-05   20:21:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The inventor of the atomic clock wrote as recently as 1988 that the theory was basically rubbish.

Could you post a link to that Ricky?

Did you read the link I posted for you which indicates GPS satellites HAVE to account for time dilation otherwise they would not function?

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-04-05   21:28:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#72. To: FormerLurker (#69) (Edited)

Could you post a link to that Ricky?

RELATIVITY - Joke or Swindle?

Did you read the link I posted for you which indicates GPS satellites HAVE to account for time dilation otherwise they would not function?

Yes I did. However having satellite clocks running at the same speed as ground base clocks is not required for GPS to function correctly. That is a myth of how GPS works. The receiver only needs to know where the satellites are located and when it received each signal to determine its location. Each satellite's location is broadcast to the receiver. The time measured on a receiver is the time difference between each signal it receives using its own local clock. No local clock synchronization with the satellite clock is needed. Using the location data, broadcast by each satellite, and the time difference between received signals from each satellite, calculations can be made to determine location. Any slowing of the satellite clock is not necessary to be able to pinpoint a location to within 1cm. I personally don't know of any GPS receiver that is even close to being that accurate anyway.

Global Positioning System (GPS) and Relativity

RickyJ  posted on  2011-04-06 14:42:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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