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Title: GOP drafts legislative assault on illegal immigration
Source: LA Times
URL Source: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw ... 8L.A.+Times+-+National+News%29
Published: Mar 30, 2011
Author: Brian Bennett
Post Date: 2011-04-02 12:46:17 by X-15
Ping List: *The Border*
Keywords: None
Views: 200
Comments: 15

Reporting from Washington— Congressional Republicans are drafting legislation that would require the federal government to develop a plan to add more fencing, sensors, agents and even drones to stop every illegal entry into the United States.

The legislative effort offers another example of how a more conservative Congress has steered the immigration debate away from the Obama administration's two-pronged push for reforms and improved border security, and toward strict enforcement of immigration laws.

In December, a lame-duck House controlled by Democrats passed the Dream Act, a reform that would have created a path to citizenship for some young illegal immigrants in the U.S., but it was narrowly defeated in the Senate.

The Democrats' Senate majority means the latest legislation is unlikely to pass, but the goal may be more political. By continuing to spearhead such measures, Republicans, who feel they are in agreement with most voters, hope to force Democrats to take a position on immigration issues in advance of the 2012 campaign.

The debate's change in tone also comes as census data show that Latinos comprise the fastest-growing block of voters, potentially a complicating factor for Republican strategists. The number of Latino voters is increasing most in states that in 2010 gained congressional seats and Electoral College votes, according to a study released in January by the Pew Hispanic Center.

Immigration skirmishes seem to excite the Republican base, said Wayne Cornelius, a professor emeritus at UC San Diego who has spent more than 40 years studying cross-border migration.

"In the short-term, they calculate they can gain more votes with these hard-liner proposals," he said, but some may have qualms about alienating Latinos.

A Republican strategist acknowledged there was debate within the party about how to handle immigration enforcement without driving away Latino voters who might otherwise agree with the fiscal conservative aspects of the party platform. Republican activists have said they think some Latino voters support the GOP position on immigration.

But many Republicans want a modernized immigration system that is consistent with the values of an immigrant nation, and those party members who speak loudly against reforms are a "vocal minority," said the strategist, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the debate.

The U.S. has spent more than $4.5 billion to improve border security in the nine years since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, and critics argue that stopping every illegal crossing is an impractical goal.

"It is all just symbolic showmanship. It will never get through the Senate. It may have short-term electoral utility but will not result in any real legislation," Cornelius said.

But Rep. Candice S. Miller, a Michigan Republican who wrote the Secure Border Act of 2011, said in an interview that "Congress needs to reflect the political will of the majority of the American people, which is to secure our borders."

The Republican effort to push the Homeland Security Department to take a tougher stance on immigration enforcement follows a request last year by all seven Republican senators on the Judiciary Committee that asked the department to determine how much money it needed to deport every illegal immigrant the government encountered.

The Homeland Security Department has not estimated the cost, but a 2005 report by the Center for American Progress concluded it would require $206 billion over five years to deport the estimated 11 million people living in the country illegally. (There's that damnable lie of "12-15 million", again!!)

The Obama administration has, in practice, largely supported the argument that border security is the first priority, Cornelius said. "It is really a red herring. We will never have the border secure enough.... Making immigration reform hostage to border security is a recipe for policy paralysis."

Miller's proposed legislation would require the Homeland Security Department to give Congress a five-year plan to bring unlawful entries and smuggling down to nearly zero, and let Congress decide whether to fund it. House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Peter T. King (R-N.Y.) and 10 other Republicans have agreed to co-sponsor the bill, which could be introduced as early as Thursday.

The proposal may come with such a hefty price tag that it's unrealistic to carry out. But Republicans say cost should not be the Border Patrol's concern. "They need to be very candid with us and tell us what they need," Miller said. "We're the ones passing the budgets and we have to decide amongst ourselves."

Customs and Border Protection developed a strategic plan for securing the border by 2014, but some lawmakers say it doesn't go far enough. The Border Patrol reported to the Government Accountability Office that by October 2010 it had control of 873 miles of the nearly 2,000 miles of the Southwest border, or 44%.

Asking the Homeland Security Department how it can stop all illegal entries is "asking the wrong question," said Doris Meissner, former head of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, because law enforcement cannot change the underlying forces — jobs and the illegal drug market — that draw migrants and smugglers to the U.S.

"Members of Congress may want to pour concrete from sea to shining sea," Cornelius said, "but it is simply not realistic."


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We stopped illegal immigration during WWI, we can do it again.

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#1. To: X-15 (#0)

It's not tp stop it. You have a business with lots of illegal immigrants, the owners to to prison.

No welfare for illegals, either. They'll self-deport.

They have given us into the hand of new unhappy lords. Lords without anger and honor, who dare not carry their swords. They fight by shuffling papers; they have bright dead alien eyes; They look at our labor and laughter as a tired man looks at flies. - G.K. Chesterton

Turtle  posted on  2011-04-02   14:24:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: X-15 (#0)

Real simple solution to criminal illegal aliens.

Step one: fine any employer found to have illegals working for them at $5000.00 an illegal

step two: if found at a future time to be continuing the use of criminal illegal aliens, the fines go up to 10,000$ a pop

step three: if at a future time this same idiot is still employing criminal illegal aliens, then the D-Bag goes to jail for 5 years.

Having no one to employ them, most will go home soon there after. the rest we can start repatriating at the southern most spot in mexico as in airlifts. peace paul son of a LEGAL immigrant

Poker Face - on the front line battle for our freedoms House Band of the 2nd American Revolution we all know is coming because of the treason in DC http://www.pokerface.com

pokerkid  posted on  2011-04-02   14:35:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: X-15 (#0)

Immigration skirmishes seem to excite the Republican base,

We stopped illegal immigration during WWI, we can do it again

I'm exictied. When can we "open fire"!

We did it before, we'll do it again!

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2011-04-02   15:42:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: X-15 (#0) (Edited)

Congressional Republicans are drafting legislation that would require the federal government to develop a plan to add more fencing, sensors, agents and even drones to stop every illegal entry into the United States.

Geez, ya think we can afford it?

I mean, it's "only" debt!

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2011-04-02   15:43:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: pokerkid (#2)

Poker Face - on the front line battle for our freedoms House Band of the 2nd American Revolution we all know is coming because of the treason in DC

i love that!

christine  posted on  2011-04-03   0:03:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: X-15 (#0)

When a nation cannot afford to employ its own citizens, the only purpose of allowing illegal immigration, is to bankrupt those who already live in said country, drive them off their land, and destroy their ability to vote, or revolt.

Our nation has been destroyed by illegal immigration, and it has been done by the very traitors and betrayers that govern this nation. They believe that they are creating new Americans. They are dead wrong. They are cutting the throat of Lady Liberty, and watching these barbarians drink her blood and eat her flesh. When Lady Liberty is nothing but bones, hair and cloth, there will no longer be an America.

This has been going on since 1913, and in 2012, we will see the end of this once great nation.

It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist. I went to Chernobyl, and all I got was this glow in the dark T-shirt. - Tommy The Mad Artist.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2011-04-05   14:40:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TommyTheMadArtist, Prefrontal Vortex, PSUSA, Eric Stratton, Jethro Tull (#6)

They are cutting the throat of Lady Liberty, and watching these barbarians drink her blood and eat her flesh.

Hammer meets nail.

__________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2011-04-05   15:26:50 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: X-15 (#7)

Every Republican in Congress is a Colonel Leavenworth.

Rastus? What'n you like bestus?
Why I like asbestos.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2011-04-05   15:40:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Turtle, X-15 (#1)

No welfare for illegals, either. They'll self-deport.

If you have to live in a shack without running water or electricity, would you rather do so in Mexico or in a white town?

Weather permitting.

Then there's the free ER health care.

Half of people in the U.S. under the age of 18 ain't white.

90% of the babies born in the U.S. in the last 10 years weren't white.

They're all entitled to bennies, says the fedgov, and will vote to keep them; It's not their money.

NOW the Republican party talks about illegal immigration. This is why they're the stupid party.

Self-deport?

WE'VE been self-deporting for decades.

It's called white flight. And they ALWAYS follow us.

Either we stop letting them follow us, or Dixie rises again, bigger and better.

Rastus? What'n you like bestus?
Why I like asbestos.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2011-04-05   15:52:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: pokerkid, christine (#2)

Step one: fine any employer found to have illegals working for them at $5000.00 an illegal

step two: if found at a future time to be continuing the use of criminal illegal aliens, the fines go up to 10,000$ a pop

step three: if at a future time this same idiot is still employing criminal illegal aliens, then the D-Bag goes to jail for 5 years.

Result:

Penalties for discrimination will rise.

Rastus? What'n you like bestus?
Why I like asbestos.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2011-04-05   15:55:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: X-15 (#0)

"Congress needs to reflect the political will of the majority of the American people, which is to secure our borders."

If they do not, they are traitorous dogs!

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2011-04-06   16:49:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#9)

Dixie rises again

Away! Away!

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2011-04-06   16:52:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: X-15 (#7)

Why is it not a shrunken head?

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2011-04-06   16:53:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: BTP Holdings (#13)

The Pacific Islanders have a patent on the process....

__________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2011-04-06   16:57:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: X-15 (#14)

The Pacific Islanders have a patent on the process....

LMAO!

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2011-04-06   17:08:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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