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Title: 25% Of Marines Would Shoot Americans, 100% Of Oath Keepers Would Shoot Them Back (2/2)
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Published: Apr 6, 2011
Author: Stewart Rhodes
Post Date: 2011-04-06 10:52:09 by christine
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#13. To: Eric Stratton, Jethro Tull, 4 (#12)

If the GOA and the JPFO support them, that's good enough for me.

Those two organizations are as hard-core 2A defenders imaginable.

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is still missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-04-06   12:17:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Pinguinite (#1)

I'm sure 100% of marines would "shoot back"

I'm 100% sure we'll be neighbors shortly after any shots are fired.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2011-04-06   12:30:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Lod (#13)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-04-06   14:13:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Eric Stratton (#15)

They support the Oath Keepers.

Click on the link and learn more about them.

(I'm now an Associate Member.)

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is still missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-04-06   14:20:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Lod (#16)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-04-06   16:54:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: RickyJ (#3)

The "patriot" movement has been compromised. There was no extermination of the Jewish people in WW2. The Jews are controlling "oath-keepers" which means they are controlled opposition. They exist for one purpose only, to identify those that could cause them trouble. Don't ever join this false opposition group.

You're full of dogshit, RickyJ. I am a founding member of Oath Keepers. I am to the left of the frame on this video on April 19th, 2009. I am the Vice President of Southern Texas for Oath Keepers.

We are not a controlled opposition group. We are working on restoring sound money at the state level and the real state militias to provide economic and monetary security to the states.

Stewart Rhodes has worked for Ron Paul as a staffer and is as solid as any patriot out there. We uphold the constitution, and encourage others to do the same. We might only have 3%, would you rather we lay down and die?

You need to clean the shit out of your head, you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.

echo5sierra  posted on  2011-04-06   18:19:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

i believe your line #2 out of 3 to be correct.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-04-06   18:22:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: echo5sierra, rickyj (#18)

wow, quite a statement there. Is that supposed to represent your group in a positive light? You sound like the typical rage-filled out of control trigger-temper cops who are featured in the news & on 4um everyday.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-04-06   18:32:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Artisan (#20) (Edited)

Dont you think it's possible to both enforce bullshit laws and be a general JBT punk with a badge or murder people that have done nothing to us on one hand, and then claim to be a patriot on the other hand?

You can have your cake, and eat it too! What a racket!

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PSUSA  posted on  2011-04-06   18:57:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: echo5sierra, RickyJ (#18)

You need to clean the shit out of your head, you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.

That is too often the case.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-04-06   19:00:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: PSUSA (#21)

ha ha. yeah, sure. The hack in charge of this racket was on film defending CPS a few months back, acknowledging that they protect children. What a joke.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-04-06   19:03:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Artisan (#20)

I am just tired of every patriotic organization being characterized as a "controlled opposition group" by someone. Doesn't matter which group it is, someone will always jump on a site like this and claim we are "controlled opposition". It is starting to piss me off just a little bit.

When my dad passed away, some people jumped on various websites and started saying the same thing about my dad, how he was a "token jew" for the Birch Society, or he was a NWO plant to flush out patriots, and that he was a millionaire from his work with George Soros or David Rockefeller. When I was a teenager, our family, all seven of us had to eat rice and beans for lunch a lot because we couldn't afford anything else. Millions of dollars damn sure would have helped then. We paid the price for fighting for freedom. Now I am an adult, doing the same thing, and I am accused of being "controlled opposition".

I am just really tired of people who don't know what they are talking about spouting off about this organization or the next with no reason or proof for what they are saying.

echo5sierra  posted on  2011-04-06   19:20:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: echo5sierra (#24)

oh ok. I can understand that.But since you are a principled man who ive posted w/ for years here & lp,i think i can say you owe it to yourself, your group & rickyJ who is a long-time poster deserved of respect to uphold high Christian standards.My 2cents

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-04-06   19:44:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Artisan, RickyJ (#25)

My boss' wife just dropped dead from a two day bacterial infection today, and I was kind of in a bad mood. Ricky, your post just caught me at a really bad time. I am sorry I jumped your case.

echo5sierra  posted on  2011-04-06   20:03:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: echo5sierra (#26)

sorry to hear that. Have a good evening.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-04-06   20:09:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: echo5sierra (#24)

Thanks you for taking a stand. I'm working very hard to get a Constitutionally minded LEO in this area elected sheriff. I sent him this video and told him that, sometime in the near future, the crap is going to hit the fan...one of his ideas is to train the folks in this county in civil defense and use the people to help protect our GOD given freedoms. I truly feel the time is at hand...people need to prepare...get out of the cities...have food so you won't be dependent on the government and start making plans with your friends and family for when all this comes down. THANK YOU again for your stand!

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2011-04-06   22:08:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: echo5sierra (#18)

You're full of dogshit, RickyJ. I am a founding member of Oath Keepers.

Are you responsible for this video?

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-04-06   23:33:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: echo5sierra (#26)

No apology necessary. Forgive me for not trusting that this organization hasn't been compromised, but based on this video I think it has with or without your knowledge. It is nothing against you personally.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-04-06   23:41:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Lod (#13)

If the GOA and the JPFO support them, that's good enough for me.

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wakeup  posted on  2011-04-07   0:22:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Lod (#16)

I'm now an Associate Member.

You have good instincts.

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wakeup  posted on  2011-04-07   0:24:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Eric Stratton (#17)

Oh, I support the OK's too.

Just sayin', it's such a small and insignificant percentage of LE/mil.

For each member of OathKeepers there may be 10, 100 or, 1,000 that chose not to join but, still support the perspective.

Hell, they all swore an oath when they joined law enforcement and the military, did they not?

They better damn-well refuse the illegal order to disregard the 2nd Amendment of the United States Constitution.

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wakeup  posted on  2011-04-07   0:30:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: echo5sierra (#18)

Ricky, Ricky, Ricky... "You need to clean the shit out of your head, you have no fucking clue what you are talking about."

I agree.

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wakeup  posted on  2011-04-07   0:33:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: echo5sierra (#26) (Edited)

I am sorry I jumped your case.

Stand your ground, sir.

Righteous indignation has its place.

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wakeup  posted on  2011-04-07   0:44:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: RickyJ (#30)

based on this video I think it has

Please, explain.

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wakeup  posted on  2011-04-07   0:48:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: wakeup (#33)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-04-07   0:55:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: wakeup, echo5sierra (#35)

The American government has already taken fire power to veterans, during the Anocostia Veteran's Camp removal while Hoover was still POTUS. General MacArthur came in with his army tanks and troops to push out the starving veterans who had set up the camp to demand some food for their families. At the time of the removal, women and children were in the camp too, but that didn't matter to MacArthur. The move assured FDR's win and also brought about Veteran's Affairs.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

abraxas  posted on  2011-04-07   0:55:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: abraxas, wakeup, echo5sierra (#38)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-04-07   0:59:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Eric Stratton (#39)

Plus we have bleak reminders of local, state and feds. getting together and killing civilians--Waco, Ruby Ridge, Kent State. During the last federal kidnapping of children at the Utah polygamy compound, tanks rolled in and commando's were set up and the children of all ages were forcibly removed from parental protection. Nobody involved in any of that was upholding the Constitution.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

abraxas  posted on  2011-04-07   1:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: abraxas (#40)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-04-07   1:13:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: abraxas (#38) (Edited)

It would be my guess that MacArthur was following the orders from the same people who gave Hoover his orders, and that would be those who would rob the country of its wealth and prosperity for their own profit, the upper crust of the elite.

I would also say it's likely that Hoover took the blame because he was told to. I'd think a president would fire a general who repeatedly disobeyed direct orders.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-04-07   1:27:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: FormerLurker (#42)

Hoover took the blame because he was told to I would guess.

I questioned the rogue general aspect of the story too. I had to laugh at MacArthur's justification that the starving veterans in the camp were planning to take over the government. As for Hoover, I don't think he had much of a chance anyway as he had already taken treasury to prop up businesses like Bush and Obama have done while the plight of the people got continually worse despite all the rosy stories that happy days were here again.

It's interesting to look at the news coverage during this time, as the MSM was spewing disinformation steadily then as they do now. When the tenant farmers in AK had a peaceful demonstration to demand food for the starving, it was all covered at "riots" and such. Leading up to the massive theft of the people's savings and assets, prior to the stock market crash, all the newspaper whores were taking pay-offs from businesses to write propaganda about how good those stocks were. This bubble and bust cycle is continual, every 20-30 years, where the politicians and businesses work together to pick the meat off the carcass just as soon as the memory of the last one fades and the people are ripe for duping again.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

abraxas  posted on  2011-04-07   1:40:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Eric Stratton (#37)

I know that you're not that naive and gullible.

Oh contraire, I am most naive and gullible.

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wakeup  posted on  2011-04-07   1:44:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: wakeup (#44)

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"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-04-07   11:13:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Eric Stratton (#45) (Edited)

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wakeup  posted on  2011-04-07   18:04:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Eric Stratton, All (#45)

I am naive and gullible enough to believe man can drop his animal nature (mark of the beast) and become a soul building human. What we see today is not human nature but, the last drum beats of our animal nature.

It will soon become obvious to all that we are brothers and sisters in a huge creation, having a common Father/Creator. We are family.

The universe is friendly and I look forward to the next phase of eternal evolution. Do not be too bummed about what goes on around us on this planet.

"There is in the mind of god a plan which embraces every creature of all his vast domains, and this plan is an eternal purpose of boundless opportunity, unlimited progress, and endless life. And the infinite treasures of such a matchless career are yours for the striving!"

"Having started out on the way of life everlasting, having accepted the assignment and received your orders to advance, do not fear the dangers of human forgetfulness and mortal inconstancy, do not be troubled with doubts of failure or by perplexing confusion, do not falter and question your status and standing, for in every dark hour, at every crossroad in the forward struggle, the Spirit of Truth will always speak, saying, "This is the way."

"THE HUMAN PARADOX Many of the temporal troubles of mortal man grow out of his twofold relation to the cosmos. Man is a part of nature — he exists in nature — and yet he is able to transcend nature. Man is finite, but he is indwelt by a spark of infinity. Such a dual situation not only provides the potential for evil but also engenders many social and moral situations fraught with much uncertainty and not a little anxiety."

"The mechanistic naturalism of some supposedly educated men and the thoughtless secularism of the man in the street are both exclusively concerned with things; they are barren of all real values, sanctions, and satisfactions of a spiritual nature, as well as being devoid of faith, hope, and eternal assurances. One of the great troubles with modern life is that man thinks he is too busy to find time for spiritual meditation and religious devotion."
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wakeup  posted on  2011-04-07   18:21:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Eric Stratton (#37)

Suppose you borrow money for some reason and sign a contract to pay it back on certain terms. You don't decide after borrowing it and tell the party that loaned it to you that you'll pay it back, you owe it to pay it back as part of the terms. So why is it that we need a new "oath" when the one they took obviously didn't mean shit to them?


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PSUSA  posted on  2011-04-07   19:01:17 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: PSUSA (#48)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-04-07   19:07:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Eric Stratton (#49)

I've had that for a while. I think it must have been made when computers were so ssslllllooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

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PSUSA  posted on  2011-04-07   19:11:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: PSUSA (#50)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-04-07   19:15:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: echo5sierra (#24)

#24

Agree echo.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-04-07   20:55:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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