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Title: Fall of Roman Empire caused by 'contagion of homosexuality'
Source: The Telegraph
URL Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor ... ontagion-of-homosexuality.html
Published: Apr 8, 2011
Author: Nick Squires
Post Date: 2011-04-11 16:20:51 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 240
Comments: 11

Roberto De Mattei, 63, the deputy head of the country's National Research Council, claimed that the empire was fatally weakened after conquering Carthage, which he described as "a paradise for homosexuals".

The remarks prompted angry calls for his resignation, with critics saying his comments were homophobic, offensive and unbecoming of his position.

The fall of the Roman Empire was a result of "the effeminacy of a few in Carthage, a paradise for homosexuals, who infected the many.

"The abhorrent presence of a few gays infected a good part of the (Roman) people," Prof Mattei told Radio Maria, a Catholic radio station.

The Roman Republic achieved domination over Carthage, in present-day Tunisia, during the Punic Wars of the third and second centuries BC, during which Hannibal made his ultimately abortive crossing of the Alps with war elephants.

After the third and final Punic War, Carthage fell into Roman hands, followed by most of the other dependencies of the Carthaginian Empire.

Prof Mattei claimed that it was as the capital of Rome's North African provinces that Cartagena became a hotbed of sexual perversion, gradually influencing Rome itself, which eventually fell to barbarian tribes in 410AD.

The corruption and decadence of some Roman emperors has been a staple of the cinema for decades, from humorous pastiches such as Frankie Howerd's 1970s television series Up Pompeii! to the 1960 Hollywood film Spartacus.

A homoerotic scene in Spartacus in which Laurence Olivier's character, the Roman General Crassus, attempts to seduce a young slave played by Tony Curtis was cut from the original film but restored in the 1990s.

A more muscular portrayal of Roman manhood was offered by the 2000 film Gladiator, starring Russell Crowe as a betrayed general who comes to Rome to seek revenge as a professional fighter.

Prof Mattei, a conservative Catholic and a former adviser on international affairs to the government, drew a parallel between the supposed moral degeneracy of imperial Rome and that of contemporary Italy.

"Today we live in an era in which the worst vices are inscribed in law as human rights. Every evil must have its punishment, either in our times or in the afterlife." Politicians and academics were left aghast by his remarks and more than 7,000 have signed a petition calling for his immediate resignation.

"His homophobic and extreme views are offensive to the organisation he leads," said Massimo Donadi, a senior member of an opposition party, Italy of Values, adding that he would refer the affair to parliament.

Anna Paola Concia, an MP from the main opposition Democratic Party, said: "A fanatic such as him cannot remain vice-president of the council in a country that has at its heart culture, human rights and respect for diversity. He is nothing other than a homophobic fundamentalist on a par with Iran's president, Ahmadinejad." Prof De Mattei, who was awarded an order of knighthood by the Vatican in recognition for his service to the Catholic Church, has previously caused controversy by speaking out about gay rights, the contraceptive pill and the alleged persecution of Christians by Muslims in Kosovo and Lebanon.

Last month he said that the earthquake and tsunami that hit Japan were punishments from God and "a way of purifying human sin".


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Somebody give that man a cigar for pissing off over 7,000 politicians and academics.

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#1. To: X-15 (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-04-11   17:26:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: X-15 (#0)

Someone needs to re-read their history. The sexual excesses (and permutations) of the Augustine Caesars was supplanted by (1) over-expansion, (2) dependence on foreign troops - essentially outsourcing, and (3) the rising popularity of Christianity.

Homosexuality had, for example, been a definite plus for the Spartans -- whose menfolk were mostly raised for warfare -- on the principle that a man would not abandon his lover on the battlefield. The Roman tolerated it at the very height of their Empire, but it became less acceptible as the Christian religion took hold.

Shoonra  posted on  2011-04-11   19:30:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Shoonra (#2)

Homosexuality had, for example, been a definite plus for the Spartans -- whose menfolk were mostly raised for warfare -- on the principle that a man would not abandon his lover on the battlefield. The Roman tolerated it at the very height of their Empire, but it became less acceptible as the Christian religion took hold.

A much-repeated lie of the Left for which very little evidence exists.

TooConservative  posted on  2011-04-11   19:54:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Shoonra (#2)

Homosexuality had, for example, been a definite plus for the Spartans

It was the downfall of their culture: reproducing families is the key to a thriving civilization/culture.

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2011-04-11   20:01:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: X-15 (#0)

Bitch

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-04-11   20:22:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Shoonra (#2) (Edited)

Gotta give you credit, Bernie. You MFing JIZ are consistent.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2011-04-11   20:35:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Esso (#6)

To: Shoonra Gotta give you credit, Bernie. You MFing JIZ are consistant.

Boy, Esso, have you ever hit the nail on the head.

He also is consistent in not responding to those who catch him in his consistent untruths and baseless left wing bullshit.

Phant2000  posted on  2011-04-11   20:45:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Esso (#6)

Notice how often he pops out of his glory-hole at 4um.

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2011-04-11   20:55:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: X-15 (#4)

It was the downfall of their culture: reproducing families is the key to a thriving civilization/culture.

Spartans weren't fags in the modern sense.

Late Romans kinda were though...

Cuz they weren't very Roman any more.

They were on the down-lo -- and nappy.

Rastus? What'n you like bestus?
Why I like asbestos.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2011-04-12   0:03:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: X-15 (#4)

I mean this absolutely seriously.

It's NO COINCIDENCE that gays openly in the military is happening during the reign of the nappy one.

When a country goes brown, it goes down, in more ways than one.

Rastus? What'n you like bestus?
Why I like asbestos.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2011-04-12   0:07:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Prefrontal Vortex, *US INDUSTRIAL WAR MACHINE* (#10)

Hopefully, all the services will see a sudden mass-departure of officers who resign their commission in total disgust at the perversion inflicted on them by that POS Kenyan.

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2011-04-12   15:48:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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