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Title: News on The George Gordon School Of Law
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Published: Apr 14, 2011
Author: Innieway
Post Date: 2011-04-14 08:57:52 by innieway
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Does anybody remember George Gordon? I found something very interesting which may be of interest to those who do...

George Gordon Lies

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#1. To: innieway (#0)

Does anybody remember George Gordon?

Yes, I do. What I remember most/best is his story about how he was held in contempt one time for refusing to take an oath in court. It was a pretty entertaining story.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-04-14   9:13:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-04-14   9:23:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Back when Austin had three micro-broadcasters, I could listen to GG.

For some reason, his information (and demeanor) seemed a bit "off."

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is still missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-04-14   9:23:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i used to listen to his show on wtprn. He has a 'folksey' style but ive seen the gordon lies site recently when one of his victims posted it on youtube. The site is damning indictment of gordon who appears to be a sheister running a confidence game.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-04-14   9:32:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

did you ever listen to eric whoru? that guy was hilarious.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-04-14   9:35:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

did you ever listen to eric whoru? that guy was hilarious.

No, never heard of that one.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-04-14   9:47:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

One of the guys I enjoyed listening to was Howard Freeman. He was into the UCC thing and told people why they should write "without prejudice" above their signatures on traffic tickets and things like that. Very interesting, very informative speaker. One of the funniest stories he told was about some guy in California who called him. Man was out of work and had gotten a speeding ticket and, iirc, it was going to cost him something like 200 bucks. So Mr. Freeman was telling him about writing that above his signature and the man said thanks and was about to hang up. But Mr. Freeman started trying to explain to him WHY he should write that and the guy told him that he appreciated it but if that is what Mr. Freeman said he should do then he would do that but he couldn't afford to stay on the phone too long 'cause it was long distance and then hung up. So the day came the guy had to go to court and the judge looked at the ticket, looked at where he had signed "without prejudice" and asked the guy what it meant. Of course the judge most likely knew what it was supposed to mean but the guy said it meant that he wasn't prejudiced against anyone, that he "loved niggers, Jews and everyone." And the judge doubled his fine.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-04-14   9:53:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

haha! actually id like to see that doubled fine challenged on appeal, since its the guys right to think what he wants.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-04-14   10:00:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-04-14   10:12:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

right. when a fake lawyer wants you to plow his fields & slaughter pigs on his farm in barter for an 8 month 'constitutional biblical primer' by a ham radio host ...lmao. what else can be said? the world is a damn funny place.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-04-14   10:23:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

haha! actually id like to see that doubled fine challenged on appeal, since its the guys right to think what he wants.

Sure he has the right to think what he wants. I think the judge was fining him as much for his ignorance as his views. If he knew why he signed it the way he was told to sign it, it should have helped him some.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-04-14   10:40:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i dont know what "without prejudice' means. do you? i do have a problem with judge arbitrarily raising fines for alleged violation of vehicle code. If a defendant had a lick of sense, they would aggressively challenge such an act legally. i know i would.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-04-14   10:48:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yes, as a matter of fact I do know what it means. Simplified, it means that you are saying you are not willfully or knowingly waiving any right (or even any privilege) by signing your name. It is almost the same, or maybe is the same, as writing on there something like "I am signing this $#it under duress and only because I was told I had to in order to avoid going to jail. And I am not waiving any of my rights, including, but not limited to, the right to trial by jury." It's shorter to write "without prejudice" and is not as likely to get you a ride into the hoosegow and a phony charge of resisting arrest or other such bs.

“The making of a valid Reservation of Rights preserves whatever rights the person then possesses, and prevents the loss of such rights by application of concepts of waiver or estoppel.” (UCC 1-207.7)

http://truthpills.wordpress.com/2009/02/03/without-prejudice-ucc-1207-1-308/

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-04-14   12:28:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I have known John Jentzen for 20 years. He's "the nicest man I personally know" and that's not an exaggeration. He's also extremely honest and trustworthy to the extreme. (Not to mention he's one of the "best welders" in America, bar none !)

We lived a mile apart in a small farming community and were close enough friends that I helped him load his stuff up to move to Missouri and knew every detail of his dealings with George Gordon. We spent a lot of time together usually having a beer, tossing horse shoes, or listening to George Gordon.

When the deal with Gordon started going sideways I also knew it wasn't because Johnny had lied to Gordon or failed to keep his word.

George Gordon is a crook. I enjoyed his teachings as much as anyone.

I am glad to see Johnny and Reba were treated fairly by the court and the "GOOD JUDGE" ... they surely deserved it.

FACT ACCORDING TO noone222: APRIL 15th IS REALLY APRIL FOOL'S DAY .

"Any man that enters the FEDERAL (RESERVE BANK) GOVERNMENT is serving the unilateral interests of the FEDERAL MAFIA, including Ron Paul." - Doug Scheidt (AKA noone222) 04-05-11

noone222  posted on  2011-04-14   13:16:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I am glad to see Johnny and Reba were treated fairly by the court and the "GOOD JUDGE" ... they surely deserved it.

Thank You noone. Johnny and I have very fond memories of you too. We fully expect to be drug through court for at least two more years by the Gordon family, and I have recieved death threats from 3 of their employees in the last year.

So far two of the land cases have been to court, in both cases members of Goerge Gordons family sued and in both cases they lost. johnny and I fear to give many personal comments on all the crap hitting the fan down here, because they are playing dirty and trying to frame us for anything and everything.

Our courts here are very fair. taking time to listen to both sides, and the judge in our case took 3 months to return her judgement. that judgement reflects her thoroughness, fairness and respect for the law. The judge in the other case that was victorious was also very honorable indeed.

I must give George Gordon's school of law one compliment, I never took one of their law classes, but after they sued us, and we could not afford an attorney, Mr. Gordons family definately increased my legal knowledge. Maybe Mr. Gordon should give his attorney some law classes or even just sue him!!

I believe that the two web sites www.georgegordonlies.com and www.georgegordonschooloffraud.co m will keep everyone up to date on the other cases they are pending trial. I personally know of three more that are currently filed with the courts.

another great website is www.courts.mo.gov go to litigant search and anyone can see if there has been any new activity. the menbers of the Gordon family are George and Jackie Gordon, Thor Downing and Dirk Dejong.

i miss you all, but i do not have internet at home so i wont be able to keep in touch very well!

Reba Jentzen

"If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?"

ladybug  posted on  2011-04-14   22:44:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

hi Reba! thanks for checking in and filling us in all of this. it appears that the Gordons are indeed shysters. congrats on your successful fight against them. i pray that you and Johnny continue to prevail. stay safe and well!

christine  posted on  2011-04-14   22:54:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

thank you very much Christine. I must run now, but please keep up the good work!!!

"If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?"

ladybug  posted on  2011-04-14   23:01:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

did you ever listen to eric whoru? that guy was hilarious.

Eric is good shit! I know the guy. He can't see well enough to drive safely on the highways now (though he drives all over his place just fine), so a few times a year I'll go down and drive him around to take care of what he needs to do... He stocks up on a lot of basic nesessities and so on... He really gets around good for a man his age - a lot better than many 30 year olds I know. He grows a big garden every year, and does all the work himself. And he still does a radio show once a week, but I don't remember on what site or network it's on. I do know it's a rather obscure one.

Don't underestimate Eric. If this thing really goes turtle he'll be one to survive it. He's prepared VERY nicely! (:

Behind every argument is someone`s ignorance

The true measure of success is not what you have, but what you can do without.
H. Jackson Brown

Hope is the emotion of last resort. When you hope for something it means you have no control over the outcome.

innieway  posted on  2011-04-14   23:56:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i do have a problem with judge arbitrarily raising fines for alleged violation of vehicle code. If a defendant had a lick of sense, they would aggressively challenge such an act legally. i know i would.

Good luck with that one.

You may elect to fight the ticket in court, and you MAY prevail. BUT, there is a maximum penalty for each "offense" of the transportation code of your state. A judge doesn't HAVE to exercise the maximum penalty. And quite often they don't. But if he does you will NOT win that challenge - in fact there is nothing TO challenge. A judge can certainly impose the maximum penalty if they so desire.

Showing your ass in court is generally a good way to make sure you get the max... I have a friend here that just found that out the hard way. He's young, and did a rather stupid thing for which he got arrested. But he thought that he had it figured out - he's well aware of the "strawman" arguments, how the "system" works... He's really pretty aware and smart for his age. So when his court date came up he fired the public defender he was assigned and announced he was going pro-se. Fine. They set up a new court date. Problem is he didn't have the legal knowledge to actually deal with it. He didn't know how to file a motion, courtroom procedure etc. His new court date was set, and he went to court about 2 weeks ago. I had repeatedly told him the jails were full of people that know all the "strawman" arguments etc, and that I thought he was making a mistake - they would NOT listen to that. I told him "if nothing else since the Patriot Act was put in place they could just claim him to be a terroristic threat and he's screwed. He could sit in there and rot for years without ever going to court." But he knew better. He told me "this is how it works."

The public defender he fired had worked a plea bargain deal in which he would serve 4 months followed by a 5 year probation... The max penalty for the felony he was facing is 8 years. Because he went into court and thought he could just refuse to give them jurisdiction and fight using common law - the judge hit him with the max.

I'm not saying you can't win in court, because you can. But if you do, you will only do it by playing within their framework. And all this crap you hear about "I'd do this, and I'd do that" is generally spouted by someone that hasn't got much if any courtroom experience. Fighting a courtroom battle is no bowl of cherries!

Behind every argument is someone`s ignorance

The true measure of success is not what you have, but what you can do without.
H. Jackson Brown

Hope is the emotion of last resort. When you hope for something it means you have no control over the outcome.

innieway  posted on  2011-04-15   0:49:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Here's a piece off that site;

Check this one out

Behind every argument is someone`s ignorance

The true measure of success is not what you have, but what you can do without.
H. Jackson Brown

Hope is the emotion of last resort. When you hope for something it means you have no control over the outcome.

innieway  posted on  2011-04-15   1:39:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Good luck with that

Hi, I don't need luck when I go to court. I win. I've won in superior court of appeals without a lawyer. Ive sued billionare Buffet's compNy & won sans lawyer, etc. I do not use the 'sovereign' stuff. I use their own BS laws & fight within their system.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-04-15   3:49:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

thats cool, glad to hear he is doing well.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-04-15   3:54:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

thanks for the explanation!

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-04-15   3:55:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

George Gordon is a crook

Thats what I thought. Thanks for confirming it.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-04-15   3:57:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i don't know you, but sorry to hear about your troubles with that low-life Gordon. Try not to let the stress of your ordeal effect you too much. Keep the faith & stay well armed.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-04-15   4:00:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

to be specific, i wasnt referring to a judge imposing the maximum. I was replying to an example which a judge doubled the max fine because he didnt like the persons ideas. That would not work in CA, at least not with me. he's not some all powerful king.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-04-15   4:04:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I was replying to an example which a judge doubled the max fine because he didnt like the persons ideas. That would not work in CA, at least not with me. he's not some all powerful king.

No he's not. And I agree, if he doubled the maximum fine you have something to go after him with.

Behind every argument is someone`s ignorance

The true measure of success is not what you have, but what you can do without.
H. Jackson Brown

Hope is the emotion of last resort. When you hope for something it means you have no control over the outcome.

innieway  posted on  2011-04-15   6:49:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Hi Reba, congrats. It'll be difficult for Gordon to overcome the Judgment because it appears that everything he should have had in evidence during the original trial for purposes of appeal were left out.

I mentioned to Johnny in an IM that you guys should be careful with respect to that crook - even frivolous lawsuits take time and money to defend against. Gordon isn't named as a party in your suit even though you, Johnny and everyone else knows he's behind it. Gordon could always sue for defamation or libel even though he might not have a case - you'd be forced to defend against it.

I don't think there's a dirty play below Gordon's nature.

Again, good for you and Johnny.

FACT ACCORDING TO noone222: APRIL 15th IS REALLY APRIL FOOL'S DAY .

"Any man that enters the FEDERAL (RESERVE BANK) GOVERNMENT is serving the unilateral interests of the FEDERAL MAFIA, including Ron Paul." - Doug Scheidt (AKA noone222) 04-05-11

noone222  posted on  2011-04-15   9:52:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You're welcome.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-04-15   10:52:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thats what I thought. Thanks for confirming it.

I don't know Gordon, but I appreciated his teachings which I agree with in the main. However, he appears to be a con man and thief. I've known innieway for 20 years and he's the salt of the earth. He's also a very intelligent man that would help others before himself. He has "never" refused whenever he's been asked for assistance by me or anyone as far as I know.

I love the guy ! He's the nicest man I have ever known.

FACT ACCORDING TO noone222: APRIL 15th IS REALLY APRIL FOOL'S DAY .

"Any man that enters the FEDERAL (RESERVE BANK) GOVERNMENT is serving the unilateral interests of the FEDERAL MAFIA, including Ron Paul." - Doug Scheidt (AKA noone222) 04-05-11

noone222  posted on  2011-04-15   14:02:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

thats a very nice thing to say. Thanks for sharing.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-04-16   4:57:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thanks for sharing.

I have resisted saying anything about the problem with Gordon for a very long time ... I actually introduced innieway to Gordon's Archives which ultimately led to their relationship and this catastrophe of fraud perpetrated by Gordon.

While his teachings are worthy of attention his deeds merit detention. It's hard to believe Gordon could be so corrupted but knowing innieway as I do made that determination a no brainer.

Everyone should be apprised of this Biblical guru's corruptness.

HAPPY APRIL FOOL'S DAY .

"Any man that enters the FEDERAL (RESERVE BANK) GOVERNMENT is serving the unilateral interests of the FEDERAL MAFIA, including Ron Paul." - noone222

noone222  posted on  2011-04-16   5:21:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Gordon could always sue for defamation or libel even though he might not have a case

Your hunch is very accurate. There have been two "Amicus Curiae Briefs" filed in our lawsuit one by a man hired by Gordons and one by a man who had filed a lawsuit against them in regards to property he had purchased from them (but suddenly dropped the lawsuit, gave Jackie and Dirk a deed to his property, and then dissappeared - rumor has it that he is now in a mental health facility).

I have filed motions to strike these briefs, and that hearing will be on May 6.

The jist of the briefs is to create evidence that johnny and I, and 6 other individuals named in the briefs, are involved in a "Federal case of Interestate Conspiracy Against the Gordons" and that our plan to harm the Gordons includes "false and frivolous" lawsuits against them.

The hired help informed me that he knew that his brief would have little or no impact in the lawsuit that Johnny and i are currently fighting, but that his goal is to help the Gordons file Federal conspiracy charges against us.

The briefs will be thrown out of our case,just as an incredibly similiar brief was filed in another case and was thrown out of that case last month.

Their only "evidence" of us being involved in this so called "Federal Interstate Consipracy" is the fact that Johnny and I are involved in a current court case with George Gordons step son as the opponent. That means that they have absolutely no evidence of johnny and I being involved at all. What Mr. Gordons hired hand does not realize is that Mr. Gordons step son SUED US!!!

George Gordon has also been handing out cd's where he interviewed Ronald Anderson (The litigant I mentioned above who withdrew his case, signed a quitclaim on his property and is now no where to be seen) and george states on that cd that he plans to sue me for libel and slander because he believes that I have been spreading rumors about him and his family.

No Mr. Gordon, I have not been spreading rumors about you, or about your family. Only facts. If you do not like those facts, then I would recommend that you change how you conduct business!!

Thank You very much for your concern, Noone, it is greatly appreciated and heeded. We are fully aware that we will be drug over the coals for as long as this family dreams up excuses to do so.

"If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?"

ladybug  posted on  2011-04-27   16:19:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

george states on that cd that he plans to sue me for libel and slander because he believes that I have been spreading rumors about him and his family.

This is a form of coercion. You should obtain one of those cds for future use. If I'm not mistaken, once he publicly threatens to sue he becomes subject to suit should he fail to do so. He's actually libeling you. Libel requires that the remarks be recorded in a permanent form. (Book, CD etc.,)

The jist of the briefs is to create evidence that johnny and I, and 6 other individuals named in the briefs, are involved in a "Federal case of Interestate Conspiracy Against the Gordons" and that our plan to harm the Gordons includes "false and frivolous" lawsuits against them.

This is hilarious since Gordon's step son sued you /(Johnny) for ejectment.

If Gordon keeps it up you guys may own all of his shit !

EDIT: Restraining Orders against the Gordons and their associates should be arranged.

ALL communications with any of the parties involved should be in writing.

Democracy: “a government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meetings or any other form of direct expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude towards property is communistic-negative property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it is based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. It results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.” The 1928 Army Field Manual

noone222  posted on  2011-04-27   17:27:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Please keep us posted on this mope.

Thanks, 4

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is still missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-04-27   17:45:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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