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Title: News on The George Gordon School Of Law
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Published: Apr 14, 2011
Author: Innieway
Post Date: 2011-04-14 08:57:52 by innieway
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Comments: 35

Does anybody remember George Gordon? I found something very interesting which may be of interest to those who do...

George Gordon Lies

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#1. To: innieway (#0)

Does anybody remember George Gordon?

Yes, I do. What I remember most/best is his story about how he was held in contempt one time for refusing to take an oath in court. It was a pretty entertaining story.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-04-14   9:13:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

did you ever listen to eric whoru? that guy was hilarious.

Artisan  posted on  2011-04-14   9:35:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

One of the guys I enjoyed listening to was Howard Freeman. He was into the UCC thing and told people why they should write "without prejudice" above their signatures on traffic tickets and things like that. Very interesting, very informative speaker. One of the funniest stories he told was about some guy in California who called him. Man was out of work and had gotten a speeding ticket and, iirc, it was going to cost him something like 200 bucks. So Mr. Freeman was telling him about writing that above his signature and the man said thanks and was about to hang up. But Mr. Freeman started trying to explain to him WHY he should write that and the guy told him that he appreciated it but if that is what Mr. Freeman said he should do then he would do that but he couldn't afford to stay on the phone too long 'cause it was long distance and then hung up. So the day came the guy had to go to court and the judge looked at the ticket, looked at where he had signed "without prejudice" and asked the guy what it meant. Of course the judge most likely knew what it was supposed to mean but the guy said it meant that he wasn't prejudiced against anyone, that he "loved niggers, Jews and everyone." And the judge doubled his fine.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-04-14   9:53:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

haha! actually id like to see that doubled fine challenged on appeal, since its the guys right to think what he wants.

Artisan  posted on  2011-04-14   10:00:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

haha! actually id like to see that doubled fine challenged on appeal, since its the guys right to think what he wants.

Sure he has the right to think what he wants. I think the judge was fining him as much for his ignorance as his views. If he knew why he signed it the way he was told to sign it, it should have helped him some.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-04-14   10:40:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

i dont know what "without prejudice' means. do you? i do have a problem with judge arbitrarily raising fines for alleged violation of vehicle code. If a defendant had a lick of sense, they would aggressively challenge such an act legally. i know i would.

Artisan  posted on  2011-04-14   10:48:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Yes, as a matter of fact I do know what it means. Simplified, it means that you are saying you are not willfully or knowingly waiving any right (or even any privilege) by signing your name. It is almost the same, or maybe is the same, as writing on there something like "I am signing this $#it under duress and only because I was told I had to in order to avoid going to jail. And I am not waiving any of my rights, including, but not limited to, the right to trial by jury." It's shorter to write "without prejudice" and is not as likely to get you a ride into the hoosegow and a phony charge of resisting arrest or other such bs.

“The making of a valid Reservation of Rights preserves whatever rights the person then possesses, and prevents the loss of such rights by application of concepts of waiver or estoppel.” (UCC 1-207.7)

http://truthpills.wordpress.com/2009/02/03/without-prejudice-ucc-1207-1-308/

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-04-14   12:28:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

thanks for the explanation!

Artisan  posted on  2011-04-15   3:55:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#29. To: Artisan (#23)

You're welcome.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-04-15 10:52:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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