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Title: Very interesting WW II Trivia
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Published: Apr 18, 2011
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Post Date: 2011-04-18 20:19:26 by Jethro Tull
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Comments: 9

You might enjoy this from Col D. G. Swinford, USMC, Ret and history buff. You would really have to dig deep to get this kind of ringside seat to history:

1. The first German serviceman killed in WW II was killed by the Japanese (China, 1937), the first American serviceman killed was killed by the Russians (Finland 1940); highest ranking American killed was Lt Gen Lesley McNair, killed by the US Army Air Corps. So much for allies.

2. The youngest US serviceman was 12 year old Calvin Graham, USN. He was wounded and given a Dishonorable Discharge for lying about his age. His benefits were later restored by act of Congress.

3. At the time of Pearl Harbor, the top US Navy command was called CINCUS (pronounced 'sink us'), the shoulder patch of the US Army's 45th Infantry division was the Swastika, and Hitler's private train was named 'Amerika.' All three were soon changed for PR purposes.

4. More US servicemen died in the Air Corps than the Marine Corps. While completing the required 30 missions, your chance of being killed was 71%.

5. Generally speaking, there was no such thing as an average fighter pilot. You were either an ace or a target. For instance, Japanese Ace Hiroyoshi Nishizawa shot down over 80 planes. He died while a passenger on a cargo plane.

6. It was a common practice on fighter planes to load every 5th round with a tracer round to aid in aiming. This was a mistake. Tracers had different ballistics so (at long range) if your tracers were hitting the target 80% of your rounds were missing. Worse yet tracers instantly told your enemy he was under fire and from which direction. Worst of all was the practice of loading a string of tracers at the end of the belt to tell you that you were out of ammo. This was definitely not something you wanted to tell the enemy. Units that stopped using tracers saw their success rate nearly double and their loss rate go down.

YOU'VE GOT TO LOVE THIS ONE........

7. When allied armies reached the Rhine, the first thing men did was pee in it. This was pretty universal from the lowest private to Winston Churchill (who made a big show of it) and Gen. Patton (who had himself photographed in the act).

8. German Me-264 bombers were capable of bombing New York City, but they decided it wasn't worth the effort.

9. German submarine U-120 was sunk by a malfunctioning toilet.

10. Among the first 'Germans' captured at Normandy were several Koreans. They had been forced to fight for the Japanese Army until they were captured by the Russians and forced to fight for the Russian Army until they were captured by the Germans and forced to fight for the German Army until they were captured by the US Army.

AND I SAVED THE BEST FOR LAST....

11. Following a massive naval bombardment, 35,000 United States and Canadian troops stormed ashore at Kiska, in the Aleutian Islands. 21 troops were killed in the assault on the island. It could have been worse if there had been any Japanese on the island.

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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

8. German Me-264 bombers were capable of bombing New York City, but they decided it wasn't worth the effort.

No doubt the Germans didn't want to take a chance of killing any of the fifth columnist jews that were destroying Amerikka from within.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2011-04-18   20:29:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Esso (#1)

Had they have done a Dresden on the Big Apple, just think of how different Washington, DC would have looked then and now.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-04-18   20:44:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Fascinating. I love history and this is great.

Link?

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2011-04-18   21:12:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

5. Generally speaking, there was no such thing as an average fighter pilot. You were either an ace or a target. For instance, Japanese Ace Hiroyoshi Nishizawa shot down over 80 planes. He died while a passenger on a cargo plane.

I bet he was pissed.

4. More US servicemen died in the Air Corps than the Marine Corps. While completing the required 30 missions, your chance of being killed was 71%.

The only worse assignment were the Kriegsmarine on Germany's U-boats. 40,000 sailed but only 10,000 came home. 75% died.

TooConservative  posted on  2011-04-18   21:56:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Murphy’s Laws of Combat Soldiers and Armies

1. You are not Superman. 2. Professionals' are predictable, but the world is full of amateurs. 3. No combat ready unit has passed inspection. 4. No inspection ready unit has ever passed combat. 5. The side with the fanciest uniforms loses. 6. Murphy was a grunt.

Battle

1. If you are short everything except enemy, you're in combat. 2. When both sides are convinced they are about to lose, they're both right.

Planning

1. The important things are simple. 2. The simple things are very hard. 3. No plan survives the first contact intact. 4. Prefect plans aren't.

Tactics

1. Don't look conspicuous, it draws fire. 2. Never draw fire, it makes everyone around you nervous. 3. Try to look unimportant, they may be low on ammo. 4. If the enemy is within range, so are you. 5. Anything you can do can get you shot, including doing nothing. 6. If the enemy is in range, "SO ARE YOU!!!" 7. If you can't see the enemy, he still may be able to see you.

Techniques

1. If it's stupid but works, it's not stupid. 2. When in doubt, empty the magazine. 3. Never share a foxhole with anyone braver than you. 4. If your attack is going really well, it's an ambush. 5. The enemy diversion you are ignoring is the main attack. 6. The easy way is always mined. 7. When you have secured an area, don't forget to tell the enemy. 8. Teamwork is essential. It gives the enemy other' to shoot at. 9. Make it too tough for the enemy to get in, and you can't get out. 10. The only terrain that is truly controlled is the terrain upon which you're standing. 11. The easy way generally gets you killed. 12. If you take more than your fair share of objectives, you will have more than your fair share objectives to take. 13. You can win without fighting, but it's a lot tougher to do. And the enemy may not cooperate.

Casualties

1. Ammo is cheap; your life isn't. 2. It's easier to expend material in combat than to fill out the forms for Graves Registration.

Weapons

1. Always keep in mind that your weapon was made by the lowest bidder. 2. The law of the bayonet says the man with the bullet wins. 3. Tracers work both ways. 4. The best tank killer is another tank. Therefore tanks are always fighting each other... and have no time to help the infantry. 5. Armored vehicles are bullet magnets, a moving foxhole that attracts attention. 6. All five second grenades are three seconds. 7. The bursting radius of a grenade is always one foot greater than your jumping range. 8. If you can't remember, the claymore is pointed towards YOU. 9. Recoilless rifles, aren't.

Artillery and Bombing

1. Suppressive fire, won't. 2. Final protective fire doesn't. 3. Friendly fire, isn't. 4. Radios will fail as soon as you need fire support desperately. 5. Incoming fire has the right-of-way. 6. The only thing more accurate than incoming enemy fire is incoming friendly fire. 7. If you are forward of your position, artillery will fall short. 8. All-weather close support doesn't work in bad weather. 9. Precision bombing is normally accurate within plus/minus one mile. 10. Cluster bombing from B-52s and C-130s is very, very accurate. The bombs always hit the ground.

Supply

1. Murphy was a logistician. 2. Things that must be together to work, usually can't be shipped together. 3. Radios will fail as soon as you need something desperately. 4. Beer math is "2 beers x 37 men = 49 cases."

Intelligence

1. Body count math is: two guerrillas plus one portable plus two pigs=37 enemy in action. 2. The enemy side always looks stronger, especially when they are firing at you, to both sides. 3. The othersides weapons always seem to look better than you own. 4. The noisiest weapons always appear to the most powerful.


the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET

IRTorqued  posted on  2011-04-18   23:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

9. German submarine U-120 was sunk by a malfunctioning toilet.

Don't laugh, malfunctioning, improperly installed marine toilets have sunk plenty of boats.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2011-04-18   23:42:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Flintlock (#6) (Edited)

I heard of a passenger liner went down because of a rag caught in the stopper valve of a commode which was below the water-line. the fact of the matter is that naval mines have sunk more tonnage of vessels from the war of 1812 to present than all other weapon systems combined. our saying was besides "Hire the handicapped, they are fun to watch" "Every ship is a minesweeper...ONCE!"


the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET

IRTorqued  posted on  2011-04-19   1:51:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: IRTorqued, Stick To Disinformation (#7)

a commode which was below the water-line.

Which they are on most small boats.

On my "Yacht" (pronounced like ratchet) I had to install a new head after a certain unnamed poster here broke it by trying to flush the unflushable. Needless to say the top of the bowl was at the waterline and that's exactly where the water stopped.

Defy the laws of Physics at your own risk!

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2011-04-19   11:08:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Flintlock (#8)

the stalls on the MCM I was on had signs which read "fill bowl before flushing" but I never had to crap that much at any one time. came close after a night of Irish cream ale.


the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET

IRTorqued  posted on  2011-04-20   1:11:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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