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Title: Are we ready to admit that we are involved in World War three? And that WE are the axis invaders?
Source: self
URL Source: http://na
Published: Apr 21, 2011
Author: titorite
Post Date: 2011-04-21 20:46:57 by titorite
Keywords: None
Views: 640
Comments: 25

So on the media tonight they referred to the action in Africa as a war...because that is what it is.

We are now involved in a 3 front war against the oil countries of the middle east. WE routinely launch assaults on and into the border nations(Pakistan and Iran) for what ever reasons.

Our European allies support us as we support them and engage in this war themselves...

We have concentration camps ......

We torture our military prisoners some of whom had nothing to do with this war.

What can we US citizens do to insist that our government stops this military invasion of middle east nations... What can we do to insist that we stop waging world war three? Our soldiers shouldn't be dying for this. We should not be invading all the big oil player nations. WTF?! How do we stop this before Russia or china sympathizers with their neighbors with Cheap Nukes?

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#1. To: titorite (#0)

No.

The Liars will lie.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2011-04-21   20:50:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: tom007 (#1)

I'm willing to admit it.

One county that did not attack us.. Afghanistan.. OK Two countries invaded that did not pose a Threat to the US ..Iraq... Now A third Country that was not a threat has been invaded. Libya...

Our European allies are involved in all these wars with us.

Multiple nations allied against multiple nations.. Axis and allies... We are the aggressors.

This Is a World War by any definition.

titorite  posted on  2011-04-21   20:56:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: titorite (#0)

Yes, the US is the invading army in this budding WW III, and there are no excuses to continue supporting the Axis of the Willing or the moronic grunts who choose to fight for the expansion of US imperialism. No mas. To paraphrase Einstein, I'm not sure what weapons will be used to fight WW III, but WW IV will be fought with sticks and rocks. Men of good will can no longer support any aspect of our aggression, and shame on them if they do.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-04-21   21:00:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: titorite, *US INDUSTRIAL WAR MACHINE* (#0)

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2011-04-21   21:49:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: titorite (#2)

americans have to be willing to say no to enlisting...to being used as pawns in foreign policy (to cite Henry Kissinger).

christine  posted on  2011-04-21   22:06:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: titorite (#0)

It is not "We" but the rulers of the USA that are launching these wars. Yes, Americans are to blame as well for not thinking or caring enough about other people to find out what is really going on, but they are not the primary ones responsible for these wars.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-04-21   22:47:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: titorite (#2)

One county that did not attack us.. Afghanistan.. OK Two countries invaded that did not pose a Threat to the US ..Iraq... Now A third Country that was not a threat has been invaded. Libya...

You forgot Vietnam, Korea and Germany. Oh and Canada. I'm sure there are others but that's enough for now.


No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)

wudidiz  posted on  2011-04-21   23:58:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: titorite, All (#7)

Having said that, I'd rather U.S. and friends were running things than other countries that have their eyes on ruling the world like say, China.


No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)

wudidiz  posted on  2011-04-21   23:59:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: wudidiz (#8)

Having said that, I'd rather U.S. and friends were running things than other countries that have their eyes on ruling the world like say, China.

The USA is not running even its own government much less the wars it is involved in.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-04-22   0:10:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: RickyJ (#9)

True. That's why I added "and friends".


No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)

wudidiz  posted on  2011-04-22   0:20:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: wudidiz (#7) (Edited)

You forgot Vietnam, Korea and Germany. Oh and Canada. I'm sure there are others but that's enough for now.

Nah their included under allies, Believe me, my wife is Canadian , she can go on and on about how much she hates Harper and how Canada has lost it cred as a peaceful nation.

Still...We have all been taught that WW3 will be fought with nukes and just because we are involved in a 3 front war doesn't mean anything, Yada yada... BUt to me it damn sure means something. IT IS a world war by anyones definition and by the standards of the previous 2 world wars.

And I find it is our fault.... Citizens wanna say it is somebody elses fault and not theirs.. No body wants to stand up and say I did wrong or I didn't do enough. People fear the government and so they refuse to stand against it. It's awful ...but if we pay even a penny in tax then we bought a bullet.

I don't wanna buy their bullets. I don't want the USA to be the aggressor of WW3.

What can I or many of us working together...what can we do to insist that the US Military come home?

titorite  posted on  2011-04-22   9:16:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: RickyJ (#9)

The USA is not running even its own government much less the wars it is involved in.

Maybe this is part of the problem...?

titorite  posted on  2011-04-22   10:01:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: titorite (#0) (Edited)

What can we US citizens do to insist that our government stops this military invasion of middle east nations... What can we do to insist that we stop waging world war three?

Hint: Howling singularly like lone wolves probably won't work.

First Draft Memo To: Afghanistan's President Karzai and Iraq's President Talabani

From: We the Constitutional People of the United States of America

This is to inform you that our Military is not the property of any branch of America's Federal governmental structure. They work for We the Constitutional People of the United States of America and for no one acting in defiance of our Constitution, which currently means until further notice that all D.C. politicians and all politicians at our state levels are unauthorized to conduct War and occupations with our forces. None of them have our consent to do so without a Constitutional Declaration of War, which the D.C. sector has been negligent in their duties to issue lawfully in either of your country's circumstances. You many contact our appointed interim-ambassadors, Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich, to consult with them on a swift agreement to declare Peace for your nations without the presence of our Military to enforce it. In the meantime, we do not consider it our Military's duty to keep either of you and your administrations protected and in power at our financial expense. Consider this a billing notification for their security services at the estimated monthly rate of $8 billion U.S. dollars for Afghanistan and $12 billion U.S. dollars for Iraq, due immediately and monthly until you promptly reach a Peaceful agreement with us for them to leave. The equivalent remitted in gold and/or silver is acceptable. If you refuse or delay the Peace process, we will recall our Military at once rather than continue to wait for you to act decisively in directing your own Militaries to fully provide you and your nations with counterinsurgency measures adequately. These estimates are subject to be increased as our costs increase. Late fees of 5% will accrue on the balance if not remitted in full to the United States Treasury by the last business day of each month. You each have two weeks from today to submit a reasonable timetable for a Peace declaration before we start recalling our forces, whether or not you are confident that your Militaries can sufficiently meet your requirements as national and administrative guards.

Signed,

We the Constitutional People of the United States of America
America's sole, legitimate Representative Government Authorities.

(This is a rough draft. Input welcome. See: Get Out of Our House at http://goooh.com/ to begin evicting politicians from office who are in rebellion against our Republic's Constitutional form of government.)

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-04-22   19:23:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: All (#13) (Edited)

Made a few edits to the above Memo Draft for readability.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-04-22   19:41:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: GreyLmist (#14)

An interesting option GreyLmist!

Although for my letter I would be willing to forgo the request for monetary reimbursement in lieu of the amount of property damage and lost lives they have incurred as a direct result of the occupation.

It ain't their fault that they got nominated for invasion. Interesting letter and Idea all the same.

titorite  posted on  2011-04-22   19:56:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: titorite (#15)

Thank you, titorite. I think the financial pressure is necessary as they appear lacking in incentive to move towards a peaceful and definitive end of the situations that are inflicting casualties and property damages to the US of A too, as well as massive and unsustainable expenditures. I'm willing to consider reducing the amounts of the monthly bills to them, maybe as much as 50% each, but they need to take their equal shares of responsibility for these Wars and Occupations on behalf of their interests and security -- not just Americans. If the administrations of countries insist on disregarding our Constitutional form of government to advance their agendas and profits through a cartel of fraudulent gangsters here who also disregard it and so don't lawfully represent us at all, they should expect without complaint to incur our objections and billings for their complicity.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-04-22   22:23:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: titorite, All (#15)

Some good news from Iraq, posted at whatreallyhappened.com:

Apr 22 08:07

Maliki rules out extension of U.S. troops' presence after 2011

BAGHDAD, April 20 (Xinhua) -- Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki ruled out signing a new security pact with the United States to extend the presence of U.S. troops in the country, his office said in a statement on Wednesday.

"The Prime Minister rule out possibility for any new security agreement to prolong the presence of U.S. troops in Iraq, because the (current) document of the strategic agreement (SOFA) is clear in this respect," the statement quoted Maliki as saying in an interview with the local television channel of Biladi to be broadcasted later.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-04-23   1:25:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: GreyLmist (#17)

hmmmm

That's more of a wait and see thing for me...

Our Nobel peace prize president was supposed to close gitmo and bring our troops home and we all know how well that worked out....

titorite  posted on  2011-04-23   4:33:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: GreyLmist (#13) (Edited)

First Draft Memo To: Afghanistan's President Karzai and Iraq's President Talabani

That should be addressed to Bibi NetanYahoo of Israel, with appropriate editions making Israel responsible for the billings, with carbon copies to Afghanistan's President Karzai and Iraq's President Talabani.

I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant

angK  posted on  2011-04-25   14:17:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: titorite (#2)

One county that did not attack us.. Afghanistan.. OK Two countries invaded that did not pose a Threat to the US ..Iraq... Now A third Country that was not a threat has been invaded. Libya...

And Now, Coming to theatres near you! Syria, and Yemen, Bonus feature- Bahrain!

I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant

angK  posted on  2011-04-25   14:29:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: titorite (#0)

Get a grip. If this was WWIII there would be sixty million dead.

Arabs aren't Germans. They're one step above Africans -- which isn't saying much.

They have given us into the hand of new unhappy lords. Lords without anger and honor, who dare not carry their swords. They fight by shuffling papers; they have bright dead alien eyes; They look at our labor and laughter as a tired man looks at flies. - G.K. Chesterton

Turtle  posted on  2011-04-25   14:36:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: angK (#20)

And Now, Coming to theatres near you! Syria, and Yemen, Bonus feature- Bahrain!

No doubt... that why we in the US need to stop referring to this with excuses and lies.. not a war on terror not a humanitarian effort not GI JOE going after Cobra. but a fucking world war.

and by god if we do not stop our government ...eventually china or russia (proly both) in intervene on behalf of their arab neighbors.

titorite  posted on  2011-04-25   14:39:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Turtle (#21) (Edited)

Get a grip. If this was WWIII there would be sixty million dead.

Arabs aren't Germans. They're one step above Africans -- which isn't saying much.

Don't be part of the problem.

Get you head outta your ass and just look at the facts jack. One invasion could be overlooked. Two invasions could be a mistake, THREE invasions is a world fucking war.

What? You think it aint because nobody is lobbing nukes yet?

The state/fatherland/homeland approves of that kind of thinking citizen.

Don't let the state think for you.

titorite  posted on  2011-04-25   14:42:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: titorite (#22)

No doubt... that why we in the US need to stop referring to this with excuses and lies.. not a war on terror not a humanitarian effort not GI JOE going after Cobra. but a fucking world war.

This IS WW3. It just doesn't look like WW1 or 2. There are conflicts and tensions all over the world, that are just waiting for the right trigger to set them off. The USA may not be involved in all of these conflicts due to overextention in other areas, but IMO the entire world will soon erupt into regional wars, nation against nation, or race against race, within one nation.

The agenda does not call for a traditional WW. It calls for a massive reduction of the population through starvation, disease, and by people killing one another off. Sheer physical and economic exhaustion, will leave the survivors easy prey for the real enemy, without the necessity for nuclear destruction. Nuclear threats will be made to keep us in a state of terror, but an attack would not serve the purposes of the NWO.

I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant

angK  posted on  2011-04-25   15:25:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Turtle (#21)

Get a grip. If this was WWIII there would be sixty million dead.

Patience, Turtle, patience!

I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant

angK  posted on  2011-04-25   15:27:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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