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Title: Official kilo losing weight (atoms)?
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URL Source: http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-04-scientists-kilo-weight.html
Published: Apr 26, 2011
Author: staff
Post Date: 2011-04-26 02:10:01 by Tatarewicz
Keywords: None
Views: 179
Comments: 14

Ensuring a pound of butter is indeed a pound, or a gallon of milk a full gallon, has long been the province of government agencies that deal with weights and measures. But now it seems scientists are having a little trouble with the golf-ball-size piece of metal that is used to set the standard weight for a kilogram, or kilo.

A bunch of these prototypes have been made over the years, seven of which are kept in a triple-locked vault at the International Bureau of Weights and Measures in Sevres, with one known as the International Prototype.

The problem is that as these prototypes have been taken out and weighed, which last happened in 1990, something odd has turned up - their weights began diverging. The International Prototype, for example, weighed 50 micrograms less than the others, meaning it had lost weight, or the others were getting heavier, or they were all moving a bit - no one knows for certain. And no one knows what caused the changing weights, either.

Americans might not think the definition of a kilo affects them, but it does. Since 1893 "the pound has been defined as a derived measure of the kilo," says Richard Davis, formerly the kilogram specialist with the U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology and then the secretary of the Consultative Committee for Mass and Related Quantities.

Not that the 50 micrograms will affect someone buying a pound of coffee in America or a kilo of potatoes in Germany. "It's a pretty small effect. It's the weight of a small grain of sand, and this has no consequence," says Michael Stock, director of the International Bureau's Electricity Department. "It's only people working at the highest levels of science who will be affected."

But to scientists, for whom very precise measurement is important, it's a big deal. So they decided to start working on a new standard based on a universal constant - a measure that relies on science principles rather than on an object whose size or other properties could change from one sample to another.

The standard for a meter, for example, is now defined as "the length of the path traveled by light in vacuum during a time interval of {99,792,458 of a second." Again, even for Americans who don't know a kilometer from a kleptomaniac, this is an issue because the official definition of a foot is exactly 0.3048 meters.

There are seven base units in the International System of Units (things like seconds, meters, degrees) and every one of them but the kilo has one of these universal constant definitions. Only the kilo is still defined by a manmade artifact - in this case a cylinder of metal made up of 90 percent platinum and 10 percent iridium that's 1.54212598 inches high by 1.54212598 inches in diameter. Which, by definition, weighs exactly 1 kilo (2.2046 pounds).

The whole system is based on a group of scientists in France who, after the revolution of 1789, started to set up a universal measurement system to get away from the hodgepodge of measurements then existing in Europe, many of which were based on things like the length of the current king's arm. "What do you do when you get a new king?" Stock says.

The system began to be adopted by the rest of the world in the 19th century when industrialization and international trade made having similar measuring systems important.

But finding a universal constant for a kilo isn't as easy as it might seem.

One suggestion was to create a precise sphere of pure silicon that weighed exactly 1 kilo, then count the number of silicon atoms it contained and define a kilo as the weight of that many silicon atoms. But while that sounds simple, it turns out to be technically very difficult.

Another idea was to base it on a relationship with an esoteric concept in physics called the Planck Constant, something even Stock had trouble expressing in layman's terms. But it would allow scientists to create a definition based on a universal constant.

Except that the experiments to establish it may be a little beyond science just yet. Groups in the United Kingdom, the United States, Switzerland and France have been doing the experiments and so far they have not come up with the same number.

"That's the problem," says Stock. "There are different results, and they don't agree."

It is unlikely that the universe is shifting under our feet, the researchers say. More that our measuring ability isn't quite up to capturing the extremely small thing being measured here.

For now, the kilo stays linked to the platinum/iridium cylinder locked away outside Paris. The meeting of the General Conference on Weights and Measures, which could adopt a new definition of the kilo, is scheduled for 2015.

Asked whether we can expect a definitive kilo by then, Stock smiles. "Probably yes, but good science takes time."

(c) 2011, USA Today. Distributed by McClatchy-Tribune

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#1. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

50 micrograms difference may only be a little dust.

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RickyJ  posted on  2011-04-26   6:29:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tatarewicz, RickyJ (#0)

A litre of water always weighs a kilogram.


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wudidiz  posted on  2011-04-26   14:19:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: wudidiz (#2)

A litre of water always weighs a kilogram.

Only under precise temperature and pressure it does.

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RickyJ  posted on  2011-04-26   17:58:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: RickyJ (#3)

Before I google it, let me guess.

Room temperature and at sea level?


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wudidiz  posted on  2011-04-26   22:18:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: RickyJ, All (#4)

To say the temperature of the water affects the weight is somewhat misleading. If you take 1 gallon of room temperature water and place it in a sealed container, the weight will not change regardless of the temperature. Weight is the measure of the pull of gravity on the mass of an object. The mass of water will not change based on temperature, therefore the weight will not change. To be more accurate, the temperature of the water will affect the volume. Ice takes up more space than liquid water. Therefore a gallon of ice will contain less mass than a gallon of room temperature water. The difference in volume is what causes the difference in mass and therefore, the difference in weight. However, it's useful enough to know that 1 gallon of water weighs about 8 1/3lbs.


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wudidiz  posted on  2011-04-26   22:44:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: wudidiz (#5)

To say the temperature of the water affects the weight is somewhat misleading.

I didn't say that, nor did I imply that. The way to measure a litre of water is defined, correct? So if it is solid it will be less dense and weigh less with the same volume as it would as a liquid.

I am correct, water has to be a precise temperature and precise pressure for an accurate measurement of a kilo. It also has to be pure, nothing but water.

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RickyJ  posted on  2011-04-26   22:53:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: RickyJ (#6)

I didn't say that, nor did I imply that.

Fantastic. I just copy/pasted it from a link.

I am correct, water has to be a precise temperature and precise pressure for an accurate measurement of a kilo. It also has to be pure, nothing but water.

What temperature and what pressure?


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wudidiz  posted on  2011-04-26   23:37:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: wudidiz (#7)

What temperature and what pressure?

Ask the scientists that. This is one reason a litre of water is not used to measure a kilo, it is very hard to be precise enough. A rough estimate, yes, but not something to be used for precise measurements of mass.

As you can see they are having a very difficult time right now trying to define a new standard way of measuring a kilo.

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RickyJ  posted on  2011-04-26   23:55:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: RickyJ (#8)

What temperature and what pressure?

Ask the scientists that.

I think you're f.o.s.

At 4 degrees celsius one litre of pure water is one kilogram.


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wudidiz  posted on  2011-04-27   3:58:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: RickyJ, All (#9) (Edited)

Table of Density of Pure & Tap* Water and Specific Gravity

Temp
( °C )

Density
pure
water
( g/cm3 )

Density
pure water
( kg/m3 )

Density
tap
water

( g/cm3 )

Density

pure
water

lb/cu.ft

Specific Gravity
4°C reference

Specific

Gravity

60°F

reference

0 (solid)

0.9150

915.0

-

-

0.915

-

0 (liquid)

0.9999

999.9

0.99987

62.42

0.999

1.002

4

1.0000

1000

0.99999

62.42
1.000

1.001

20

0.9982

998.2

0.99823

62.28

0.998

0.999

40

0.9922

992.2

0.99225

61.92

0.992

0.993

60

0.9832

983.2
0.98389

61.39

0.983

0.985

80

0.9718

971.8

0.97487

60.65

0.972

0.973

100 (gas)

0.0006

-

-

* This is for average, clean drinking water. It will vary from area to area.

www.simetric.co.uk/si_water.htm


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wudidiz  posted on  2011-04-27   4:05:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: RIckyJ, All (#10)

www.boingboing.net/2011/02/14/fixing-the-kilogram.html


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wudidiz  posted on  2011-04-27   4:10:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: wudidiz (#9)

I think you're f.o.s.

At 4 degrees celsius one litre of pure water is one kilogram.

Whatever dude, believe what you want to believe. A litre of water is not used to measure a kilo for the obvious reason it is not precise enough. Get a grip man! This is not a religion, it is just measurement!

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RickyJ  posted on  2011-04-27   4:19:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: RickyJ (#12)

If you know so much about it tell me what pressure at 4 degrees celsius a litre weighs a kilo at.


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wudidiz  posted on  2011-04-27   11:55:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: wudidiz (#13)

You are only making yourself look like a fool. Give it a rest.

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RickyJ  posted on  2011-04-27   17:08:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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