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Title: Obama's Certificate of LIVE BIRTH
Source: White House
URL Source: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/def ... irth-certificate-long-form.pdf
Published: Apr 27, 2011
Author: CIA - BLACK (hahahaha) OPS
Post Date: 2011-04-27 09:35:27 by noone222
Keywords: None
Views: 652
Comments: 46

www.whitehouse.gov/sites/...certificate-long-form.pdf

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#1. To: noone222 (#0)

If that's their long form, I'd hate to see the short one.

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is still missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-04-27   9:55:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Lod (#1)

The CIA used to be able to do this shit over night ... this has been 2.5 years in coming !

Democracy: “a government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meetings or any other form of direct expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude towards property is communistic-negative property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it is based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. It results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.” The 1928 Army Field Manual

noone222  posted on  2011-04-27   10:00:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: noone222 (#2)

And they forgot the attending physician's signature.

This is so much garbage - the Donald has now moved on to all the transcripts, etc. that are also non-existent, or if they do exist, show him to be kenyan.

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is still missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-04-27   10:04:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Lod (#3) (Edited)

There is a signature of an MD (Attendant) - where the box has been smudged or something.

Democracy: “a government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meetings or any other form of direct expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude towards property is communistic-negative property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it is based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. It results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.” The 1928 Army Field Manual

noone222  posted on  2011-04-27   10:12:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Lod (#3)

the Donald has now moved on to

do like a good lil potential puppet ... the guys smokin the big stogies have spoken.

Democracy: “a government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meetings or any other form of direct expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude towards property is communistic-negative property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it is based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. It results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.” The 1928 Army Field Manual

noone222  posted on  2011-04-27   10:20:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: All (#5)

For comparison:

These are the two forms.

Democracy: “a government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meetings or any other form of direct expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude towards property is communistic-negative property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it is based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. It results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.” The 1928 Army Field Manual

noone222  posted on  2011-04-27   10:29:41 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: noone222 (#2) (Edited)

The CIA used to be able to do this shit over night ... this has been 2.5 years in coming !

It took them that long to track down and dispose of the person's family (parents, siblings, children, grandchildren, etc.) that held the 10641 slot in the 1961 handwritten ledger that records the birth certificates in order.

20, 30, 50 people dead, just so we can have the "privilege" of another term of our first Kenyan president.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2011-04-27   10:32:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Esso (#7)

It took them that long to track down and dispose of the person's family (parents, siblings, children, grandchildren, etc.) that held the 10611 slot in the 1961 handwritten ledger that records the birth certificates in order.

LOL

christine  posted on  2011-04-27   10:41:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: noone222 (#4)

My bad...David A. S........ something or other.

(I still don't buy it.)

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is still missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-04-27   10:55:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine (#8) (Edited)

They couldn't take the chance of somebody turning up on the nightly news waving around a real birth certificate with with the same number as O'boingo's.

Once all traces of the real 61 10641 and family were eliminated, the register page was replaced with a forgery or the register was destroyed. A monumental task that only a government could complete.

O'boingo will be the next president.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2011-04-27   10:56:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: noone222 (#6)

FACEPALM!!!!

So that is the new BC....

I swear this shit never ends...

I hope it gets torn to shreds and his ass gets impeached and pardoned..(Cause will all know presidents don't serve time they only get impeached and pardoned)

titorite  posted on  2011-04-27   11:19:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: noone222 (#0)

I guess this is it.

Didja notice that it seems that where the document appears to bend to accommodate the binding, the rule lines in the form bend but the paper patterning does not conform? Observe the left margin. I could be wrong. What do you think?

Let the fun begin.

It is a violation of Natural Law to use this document in a manner inconsistent with its labeling.

randge  posted on  2011-04-27   11:24:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: noone222 (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-04-27   12:21:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: randge (#12) (Edited)

Didja notice that it seems that where the document appears to bend to accommodate the binding, the rule lines in the form bend but the paper patterning does not conform? Observe the left margin. I could be wrong.

The pattern does not change because the pattern is on the printer paper currently used by the Dept of Health. Safety paper, with anti-alteration background pattern, was likely not used in 1961 for the original report. The original in the Dept of Health binder (which accounts for the bend at the right edge) was photographed and printed onto the green-pattern safety paper.

Safety paper of some sort is now very popular with most states for birth certificate to disourage any sort of alterations.

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Shoonra  posted on  2011-04-27   12:38:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Shoonra (#14)

Problem though oh sage - the pattern remains consistent and unbroken from one side to the other - as though the image of the "Birth Certificate" was digitally lifted and then overlaid on the background.

As well Kapiolani Hospital has denied having any contemporaneous records.

And No Attending Physician is listed.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-04-27   12:56:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Shoonra, ndcorup, All (#14)

The pattern does not change because

Yes, that seems to be apparent in this version:

ndcorup has posted this rendition in FrontPage. I won't comment more on this, but I hope that someone here who has knowledge of how FrontPage works will.

It is a violation of Natural Law to use this document in a manner inconsistent with its labeling.

randge  posted on  2011-04-27   13:15:01 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Shoonra, All (#14)

By the way, Shoonra, please post the certification, raised seal, and signatures visible at the bottom of these Hawaiian long forms on the cert released today by the White House.

The White House released form does not appear to include that information.

It is a violation of Natural Law to use this document in a manner inconsistent with its labeling.

randge  posted on  2011-04-27   13:44:45 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: randge (#17)

Notice that the name of the Attending Physician is missing from the Oh'bummer Cert.

These guys are like the "Keystone Kops". They cannot even produce a close to convincing fraudulent B.C..

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-04-27   14:02:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Shoonra, randge, Lady X, all (#14)

Didja notice that it seems that where the document appears to bend to accommodate the binding, the rule lines in the form bend but the paper patterning does not conform? Observe the left margin. I could be wrong.

The pattern does not change because the pattern is on the printer paper currently used by the Dept of Health. Safety paper, with anti-alteration background pattern, was likely not used in 1961 for the original report. The original in the Dept of Health binder (which accounts for the bend at the right edge) was photographed and printed onto the green-pattern safety paper.

Safety paper of some sort is now very popular with most states for birth certificate to disourage any sort of alterations.

The problem with that is that the page turning down is going into a cut-out - it is not a contiguous page and yet the patterning continues as though it is.

The more I look at this thing the more apparent it is that it is not a very convincing Photo Shop job and there is no curvature in the pattern underlying paper. You have tried to side step it with a sort of plausible attempt to explain it away, but it is unconvincing in face of the evidence.

I am waiting for Michael Rivero, who is expert in digital imaging and manipulations since that is how he made his living, to offer his analysis.

There are multiple outpoints on this document.

It would appear to be simply another poorly done fraud to try and silence the questions.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-04-27   14:10:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Original_Intent (#18)

Notice that the name of the Attending Physician is missing from the Oh'bummer Cert.

It's there, look again.

Democracy: “a government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meetings or any other form of direct expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude towards property is communistic-negative property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it is based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. It results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.” The 1928 Army Field Manual

noone222  posted on  2011-04-27   14:15:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Original_Intent (#19)

they took this long to finally release THIS doctored up POS ??


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-04-27   14:18:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Original_Intent (#19)

"It would appear to be simply another poorly done fraud to try and silence the questions."

But Obama OWNS this one!

I believe it's intended to "Burn Out" the contoversy. Fox is even touting it as the "Final Answer".

ndcorup  posted on  2011-04-27   14:19:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: randge (#16)

I had commented that it appeared it had at least two diff. formats. This might explain it ---

http://wireupdate.com/video/2011/04 ... th-certificate-pdf-has- layers/

>

ndcorup  posted on  2011-04-27   14:36:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: ndcorup (#23)

That link is not opening up the file you're referring to.

No Results Found

The page you requested could not be found. Try refining your search, or use the navigation above to locate the post.

It is a violation of Natural Law to use this document in a manner inconsistent with its labeling.

randge  posted on  2011-04-27   17:09:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: randge (#17)

The White House released form does not appear to include that information.

And what it did release was total garbage. Fathers race listed as "African" when it should have been listed as "Negro." And mothers race listed as "Caucasian" and it should have been "White." Just more bs from Obama and his puppets and sycophants.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-04-27   17:19:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: James Deffenbach (#25)

And what it did release was total garbage. Fathers race listed as "African" when it should have been listed as "Negro." And mothers race listed as "Caucasian" and it should have been "White." Just more bs from Obama and his puppets and sycophants.

Yes, I think they used different terminology then for races. If this is the case then this is a very poor attempt at a forgery.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-04-27   17:25:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: noone222 (#20)

Notice that the name of the Attending Physician is missing from the Oh'bummer Cert.

It's there, look again.

You're correct, my bad. Still there is no raised seal certifying it. Therefore it is not a certified copy and thus falls short as legal evidence.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-04-27   17:33:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: ndcorup (#22)

"It would appear to be simply another poorly done fraud to try and silence the questions."

But Obama OWNS this one!

I believe it's intended to "Burn Out" the contoversy. Fox is even touting it as the "Final Answer".

Yes, and as I pointed out on the other thread the timing is about perfect to kill the issue and try to bury the questions once and for all - except it isn't.

Of course Faux Nooze is establishment and you can expect them to play along with the official PsyOp/PR stunt.

I trust Faux no more than I trust CNN which is not at all.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-04-27   17:36:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Original_Intent (#28)

The entirety of mainstream media (including all talk radio) has tried to poo poo the "birther" issue from day one.

Democracy: “a government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meetings or any other form of direct expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude towards property is communistic-negative property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it is based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. It results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.” The 1928 Army Field Manual

noone222  posted on  2011-04-27   17:41:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: randge (#24)

I guess I messed it up. Here ----

http://wireupdate.com/video/2011/04/president- obamas-birth-certificate-pdf-has-layers/

>

ndcorup  posted on  2011-04-27   17:42:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: ndcorup (#30)

It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist. I went to Chernobyl, and all I got was this glow in the dark T-shirt. - Tommy The Mad Artist.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2011-04-27   17:44:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: TommyTheMadArtist, anyone, 4 (#31)

Has anyone ever seen a green BC?

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is still missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-04-27   17:47:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Lod (#32)

No. the green pattern shown is actually used for checks. seriously.

It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist. I went to Chernobyl, and all I got was this glow in the dark T-shirt. - Tommy The Mad Artist.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2011-04-27   17:49:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#33)

Exactly.

Green, blue, yellow, et al, are for checks.

White on black, black on white (sounds kinda like Stanley's plan) are used for BCs.

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is still missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-04-27   17:52:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Lod (#32) (Edited)

Has anyone ever seen a green BC?

The one posted (by the White House) is a "copy" (See the date lower left hand side April 25, 2011).

There are two photostats shown at WND of twins born the day after Obama is claiming as his birth date.

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=105347

Democracy: “a government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meetings or any other form of direct expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude towards property is communistic-negative property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it is based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. It results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.” The 1928 Army Field Manual

noone222  posted on  2011-04-27   18:02:44 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Lod (#34)

Exactly.

Green, blue, yellow, et al, are for checks.

White on black, black on white (sounds kinda like Stanley's plan) are used for BCs.

The birth certs are "commercial paper" and are printed on a certain type of paper used for commercial purposes !

Democracy: “a government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meetings or any other form of direct expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude towards property is communistic-negative property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it is based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. It results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.” The 1928 Army Field Manual

noone222  posted on  2011-04-27   18:09:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: RickyJ (#26)

Yes, I think they used different terminology then for races. If this is the case then this is a very poor attempt at a forgery.

Two possibilities arise, or so it seems. The person who fabricated this document was totally ignorant of the terms that were used at the time Obama was born. Or the person was fully aware and made this pos to show that Obama is not what he's claiming to be--in other words someone who doesn't think much of Obama and who knows that he is a liar.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-04-27   18:13:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Lod (#34) (Edited)

www.gazette.com/articles/birth-117028-certificates- http://colorado.html">www.gazette.com/articles/...ertificates-colorado.html

Fast facts on Colorado birth certificates:

Who issues birth certificates in Colorado?

A Colorado Certificate of Live Birth is issued by the state Office of Vital Statistics, 4300 Cherry Creek Drive South, Denver or through vital records offices in counties. In El Paso County, the vital records office is located at the Public Health agency, 305 S. Union Blvd., Colorado Springs.

Is a birth certificate issued automatically or does it have to be requested by the parent(s)?

A birth certificates is not issued automatically; it must be requested by the parent(s). An application must be submitted with valid photo identification, such as a driver’s license or passport. A nonparent, such as a grandparent, requesting a birth certificate must provide proof of the relationship and a direct and tangible interest in the record.

What does it cost?

$17.75 and $10 for each additional copy.

Is it the original document or a copy?

There is no original document, other than the electronic data base maintained by the state Office of Vital Statistics. Hospitals report births to the state office, which provides the Certificate of Live Birth upon request. Typically, the birth certificate is mailed or can be picked up in person at either the state or county office two weeks after a child is born.

How official does it look?

The Certificate of Live Birth is printed on bank note paper obtained from the state Office of Vital Statistics. It has a raised state seal and the signature of the state registrar, who oversee the Office of Vital Statistics. The name of the child, date of birth, names and ages of parents if provided and place of birth are listed on the certificate.

Is it uniform throughout the state?

Yes, the same Certificate of Live Birth is issued regardless of where a child is born in Colorado.

Does the government have any involvement in birth announcements?

No, other than the hospital informing the state of a child’s birth, government agencies have no role in announcing births or placing notices in the media.

Can a replacement be obtained for a lost birth certificate?

The process and cost is the same as requesting the first certificate. However, a replacement can be obtained in person the same day.

Is it confidential or can someone else obtain a copy of your birth certificate?

Colorado is a closed record state, meaning by law all vital records are confidential. A grandparent, for example, could apply for a copy of a birth certificate but would be required to prove a direct or tangible interest. Prospective employer, seeking to establish that a job applicant is a U.S. citizen, for example, would not be able to obtain a birth certificate.

Read more: www.gazette.com/articles/birth-117028-certificates- http://">www.gazette.com/articles/birth-117028-certificates- colorado.html#ixzz1KlR5Hn00

Democracy: “a government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meetings or any other form of direct expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude towards property is communistic-negative property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it is based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. It results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.” The 1928 Army Field Manual

noone222  posted on  2011-04-27   18:14:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: James Deffenbach (#37)

Or the person was fully aware and made this pos to show that Obama is not what he's claiming to be--in other words someone who doesn't think much of Obama and who knows that he is a liar.

That one never crossed my mind.

Wouldn't something like that have to be approved by some pencil-neck at .gov?

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is still missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-04-27   18:39:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Lod (#39)

Wouldn't something like that have to be approved by some pencil-neck at .gov?

I am sure it would but at first glance it probably looks "close enough for government work" and bureaucrats are not generally known for looking at anything in depth unless they are trying to screw some of us peons.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-04-27   18:55:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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