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Title: Trial By Hit Squad: Why Patriotic Americans Should Be Angry That Bin Laden Was Killed
Source: CounterPunch
URL Source: http://www.counterpunch.org/foley05032011.html
Published: May 3, 2011
Author: BRIAN J. FOLEY
Post Date: 2011-05-05 15:30:09 by PnbC
Keywords: None
Views: 552
Comments: 51

Why Patriotic Americans Should Be Angry That Bin Laden Was Killed
Trial By Hit Squad

By BRIAN J. FOLEY

The widespread jubilation at reports of Bin Laden's death is misplaced. Patriotic Americans should be angry.

After 9/11, the United States government shredded our Constitution and took away our rights not be be spied on and not to be tortured and not to be assassinated abroad. Our government built Guantanamo. The goal of destroying our laws was, we were told, to usher in an era of "enhanced interrogation" to get information to prevent terrorist attacks.

Instead of killing Bin Laden, the U.S. should have captured and interrogated him. Think how much information we could have gained! If alleged low-level members of Al Qaeda are thought to have information important enough for our government to lock them up at Guantanamo for almost 10 years, then wouldn't it have been smart to ask Bin Laden a few questions instead of shooting him? He's been called the "mastermind" of 9/11 and all things Al Qaeda.

If anyone thinks our military couldn't have captured Bin Laden alive and that the killing was somehow necessary, well, they lack faith in our troops. U.S. troops are amazingly well-trained -- the world's best -- and can achieve miraculous results.

Perhaps revenge is sweet, but when it comes at the expense of gaining actionable intelligence that could help the U.S. win the ongoing, Constitution-shredding War on Terror, it's a feel-good emotion we can't afford.

Brian J. Foley is a law professor. Email him at brian_j_foley@yahoo.com Visit his blog at brianjfoley.net/

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#1. To: PnbC (#0)

Brian! OBL's been dead, and buried, for near a decade now.

Lod  posted on  2011-05-05   15:59:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Lod (#1)

OBL's been dead, and buried, for near a decade now.

Even I knew that. What's up, Brian?

BTP Holdings  posted on  2011-05-05   17:21:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: BTP Holdings, 4 (#3)

I'm so tired of reading, and listening to, these ham-fisted, meat-headed reports, that I could scream.

We are a nation of nincompoops.

Lod  posted on  2011-05-05   17:25:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Lod, BTP Holdings (#4)

i think it's an important point that the writer addresses. Most americans believe binny was just killed. Therefore its a valid point to ask why wasnt he detained & questioned.A thorough examination of these points would lead the clueless to the real truth

Artisan  posted on  2011-05-06   0:50:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: All, lod, btp holdings (#6)

A similar comparison is how Ron Paul is too ball-less to confront the real 9/11 conspiracy, yet he still deconstructs the official myth that 'the arabs hate us for our freedoms'.

Artisan  posted on  2011-05-06   12:39:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Artisan (#8)

'the arabs hate us for our freedoms'

One of the basic tenets of Islam is that innocent women and children should not be made targets in battle. Recall then, George Washington, dressed in full Masonic regalia, holding up a copy of the Koran and saying, "It is important these people be kept out." This, then, affirms one of our basic liberties. We were founded a Christian nation.

BTP Holdings  posted on  2011-05-07   12:34:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: BTP Holdings (#10)

One of the basic tenets of Islam is that innocent women and children should not be made targets in battle. Recall then, George Washington, dressed in full Masonic regalia, holding up a copy of the Koran and saying, "It is important these people be kept out." This, then, affirms one of our basic liberties. We were founded a Christian nation

interesting. With regard to the likes of ron paul and the author of this article, even though i adhere to many so-called 'conspiracy theories', i do not think that it is necessary for people to promote conspiracy theories in order to promote liberty. One can speak to the general dumbed down public for example, and argue that even if you believe 19 arabs did 9/11, that does not justify murdering a million muslims in iraq and it does not justify the patriot act, nor does it justify groping americans at airports.

On another note, i recently read the entire interview of bin laden which was published directly after 9/11/01 in which bin laden denied all involvement in 9/11. this interview is touted much by 911 truthers. yet, one thing that was included by bin laden in that very same interview is the fact that bin laden insisted that alqaida is involved in a jihad. This fact is conveniently omitted by the majority of 911 truthers, who insist that alqaida is CIAda and that bin laden did not support jijad.

I like to be consistant. If you one references the bin laden interview as reliable, then how can they at the same time pick and choose what they want to believe from bin laden in that very interview? That is muddled thinking.

i will try to find the link to that bin laden interview.

Artisan  posted on  2011-05-07   13:31:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#16. To: Artisan (#14)

interesting. With regard to the likes of ron paul and the author of this article, even though i adhere to many so-called 'conspiracy theories', i do not think that it is necessary for people to promote conspiracy theories in order to promote liberty. One can speak to the general dumbed down public for example, and argue that even if you believe 19 arabs did 9/11, that does not justify murdering a million muslims in iraq and it does not justify the patriot act, nor does it justify groping americans at airports.

Good point.

You cannot violate the reality of your audience and have your message accepted. People will reject anything that violates their "reality". It does not mean that their reality is true but it is what is real to them.

People, the general public, have been taught, through repetition, and through the use of opinion leaders such as Rush Limbaugh, that certain falsehoods are true. Because of all of the false information that has been hammered into them through repetition and other techniques they believe a lot of things to be true which are in reality false. Nevertheless they have a vision of reality which they believe to be true and is their reality.

So, your point is a very good and valid one i.e., taking those fundamental aspects of reality which are shared and using them as a wedge to under cut the mountain of lies.

Even the most hardcore invincibly ignorant dildohead still thinks they believe in freedom, honest government and the Constitution.

So, pointing out some of the logical conflicts forces them to re-examine their reality and their carefully constructed edifice of false logic and justifications. Do it effectively enough and the tower begins to crumble from its own rotted structure of lies.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-05-07 13:44:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Artisan (#14)

1. One can speak to the general dumbed down public for example, and argue that even if you believe 19 arabs did 9/11, that does not justify murdering a million muslims in iraq and it does not justify the patriot act, nor does it justify groping americans at airports.

2. That is muddled thinking.

1. None of it can be justified. We are becoming a nation of dumbed down idiots and nonsensical babbling buffoons.

2. It is indeed.

BTP Holdings  posted on  2011-05-09 17:27:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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