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Title: Top US Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag (confirmed!)
Source: Veterans Today
URL Source: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/0 ... died-in-2001-911-a-false-flag/
Published: May 5, 2011
Author: Paul Joseph Watson
Post Date: 2011-05-05 23:06:37 by Eric Stratton
Keywords: None
Views: 543
Comments: 29

Top US Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag (confirmed!)

May 4, 2011 posted by Veterans Today · 60 Comments 

Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations Steve R. Pieczenik

says he is prepared to tell a federal grand jury the name of a top general who told him directly 9/11 was a false flag attack

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Wednesday, May 4, 2011

60;Bin Laden had already been “dead for months,” and that the government was waiting for the most politically expedient time to roll out his corpse. Pieczenik would be in a position to know, having personally met Bin Laden and worked with him during the proxy war against the Soviets in Afghanistan back in the early 8082;s61;

Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show yesterday that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job.

Pieczenik cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”. He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT.

Recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management, Pieczenik went on to develop, “the basic tenets for psychological warfare, counter terrorism, strategy and tactics for transcultural negotiations for the US State Department, military and intelligence communities and other agencies of the US Government,” while also developing foundational strategies for hostage rescue that were later employed around the world.

Pieczenik also served as a senior policy planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker and worked on George W. Bush’s election campaign against Al Gore. His record underscores the fact that he is one of the most deeply connected men in intelligence circles over the past three decades plus.

The character of Jack Ryan, who appears in many Tom Clancy novels and was also played by Harrison Ford in the popular 1992 movie Patriot Games, is also based on Steve Pieczenik.

Back in April 2002, over nine years ago, Pieczenik told the Alex Jones Show that Bin Laden had already been “dead for months,” and that the government was waiting for the most politically expedient time to roll out his corpse. Pieczenik would be in a position to know, having personally met Bin Laden and worked with him during the proxy war against the Soviets in Afghanistan back in the early 8082;s.

Pieczenik said that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001, “Not because special forces had killed him, but because as a physician I had known that the CIA physicians had treated him and it was on the intelligence roster that he had marfan syndrome,” adding that the US government knew Bin Laden was dead before they invaded Afghanistan.

Marfan syndrome is a degenerative genetic disease for which there is no permanent cure. The illness severely shortens the life span of the sufferer.

“He died of marfan syndrome, Bush junior knew about it, the intelligence community knew about it,” said Pieczenik, noting how CIA physicians had visited Bin Laden in July 2001 at the American Hospital in Dubai.

“He was already very sick from marfan syndrome and he was already dying, so nobody had to kill him,” added Pieczenik, stating that Bin Laden died shortly after 9/11 in his Tora Bora cave complex.

“Did the intelligence community or the CIA doctor up this situation, the answer is yes, categorically yes,” said Pieczenik, referring to Sunday’s claim that Bin Laden was killed at his compound in Pakistan, adding, “This whole scenario where you see a bunch of people sitting there looking at a screen and they look as if they’re intense, that’s nonsense,” referring to the images released by the White House which claim to show Biden, Obama and Hillary Clinton watching the operation to kill Bin Laden live on a television screen.

“It’s a total make-up, make believe, we’re in an American theater of the absurd….why are we doing this again….nine years ago this man was already dead….why does the government repeatedly have to lie to the American people,” asked Pieczenik.

“Osama Bin Laden was totally dead, so there’s no way they could have attacked or confronted or killed Osama Bin laden,” said Pieczenik, joking that the only way it could have happened was if special forces had attacked a mortuary.

Pieczenik said that the decision to launch the hoax now was made because Obama had reached a low with plummeting approval ratings and the fact that the birther issue was blowing up in his face.

“He had to prove that he was more than American….he had to be aggressive,” said Pieczenik, adding that the farce was also a way of isolating Pakistan as a retaliation for intense opposition to the Predator drone program, which has killed hundreds of Pakistanis.

“This is orchestrated, I mean when you have people sitting around and watching a sitcom, basically the operations center of the White House, and you have a president coming out almost zombie-like telling you they just killed Osama Bin Laden who was already dead nine years ago,” said Pieczenik, calling the episode, “the greatest falsehood I’ve ever heard, I mean it was absurd.”

Dismissing the government’s account of the assassination of Bin Laden as a “sick joke” on the American people, Pieczenik said, “They are so desperate to make Obama viable, to negate the fact that he may not have been born here, any questions about his background, any irregularities about his background, to make him look assertive….to re-elect this president so the American public can be duped once again.”

Pieczenik’s assertion that Bin Laden died almost ten years ago is echoed by numerous intelligence professionals as well as heads of state across the world.

Bin Laden, “Was used in the same way that 9/11 was used to mobilize the emotions and feelings of the American people in order to go to a war that had to be justified through a narrative that Bush junior created and Cheney created about the world of terrorism,” stated Pieczenik.

During his interview with the Alex Jones Show yesterday, Pieczenik also asserted he was directly told by a prominent general that 9/11 was a stand down and a false flag operation, and that he is prepared to go to a grand jury to reveal the general’s name.

“They ran the attacks,” said Pieczenik, naming Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Stephen Hadley, Elliott Abrams, and Condoleezza Rice amongst others as having been directly involved.

“It was called a stand down, a false flag operation in order to mobilize the American public under false pretenses….it was told to me even by the general on the staff of Wolfowitz – I will go in front of a federal committee and swear on perjury who the name was of the individual so that we can break it open,” said Pieczenik, adding that he was “furious” and “knew it had happened”.

“I taught stand down and false flag operations at the national war college, I’ve taught it with all my operatives so I knew exactly what was done to the American public,” he added.

Pieczenik re-iterated that he was perfectly willing to reveal the name of the general who told him 9/11 was an inside job in a federal court, “so that we can unravel this thing legally, not with the stupid 9/11 Commission that was absurd.”

Pieczenik explained that he was not a liberal, a conservative or a tea party member, merely an American who is deeply concerned about the direction in which his country is heading.

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#1. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com

I like this news, but considering the source I can't say I trust it.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-05-05   23:12:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: RickyJ (#1)

Please impeach the source, if you can, Ricky.

It is a violation of Natural Law to use this document in a manner inconsistent with its labeling.

randge  posted on  2011-05-05   23:19:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: RickyJ (#1)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-05-05   23:19:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: RickyJ (#1)

Paul Joseph Watson

The source, by the way, is not Paul Joseph Watson.

It is a violation of Natural Law to use this document in a manner inconsistent with its labeling.

randge  posted on  2011-05-05   23:20:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: RickyJ (#1)

I like this news, but considering the source I can't say I trust it.

Did you just express cynicism of PP?

I'm impressed.

Question everything only go with the confimable.

Wow RickyJ

I never thought you'd reach that point.

Kudos!

titorite  posted on  2011-05-05   23:21:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

During his interview with the Alex Jones Show yesterday, Pieczenik also asserted he was directly told by a prominent general that 9/11 was a stand down and a false flag operation, and that he is prepared to go to a grand jury to reveal the general’s name.

“They ran the attacks,” said Pieczenik, naming Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Stephen Hadley, Elliott Abrams, and Condoleezza Rice amongst others as having been directly involved.

“It was called a stand down, a false flag operation in order to mobilize the American public under false pretenses….it was told to me even by the general on the staff of Wolfowitz – I will go in front of a federal committee and swear on perjury who the name was of the individual so that we can break it open,” said Pieczenik, adding that he was “furious” and “knew it had happened”.

“I taught stand down and false flag operations at the national war college, I’ve taught it with all my operatives so I knew exactly what was done to the American public,” he added.

Pieczenik re-iterated that he was perfectly willing to reveal the name of the general who told him 9/11 was an inside job in a federal court, “so that we can unravel this thing legally, not with the stupid 9/11 Commission that was absurd.”

This is the part that I have trouble believing. Bush and Cheney couldn't run a whore house much less a secret false flag attack on America. They were not in charge of this and this is why he is being allowed to say this on the Alex Jones show, to help make sure if 9/11 is found out to not be done by Muslims, that Israel is not blamed for it but rather Bush and Cheney, which is of course just what Alex Jones is allowed to be on the air for.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-05-05   23:28:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show yesterday that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job.

This guy sounds like another candidate to commit suicide by stabbing himself numerous times and then hanging himself with his hands tied behind his back. And, when he is good and dead, he will be found in Fort Marcy Park just like Vince Foster.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-05-05   23:29:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: James Deffenbach (#7)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-05-05   23:37:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Eric Stratton (#8)

Heard anything about any "winner" in the debate tonight? I didn't watch it but am interested to know how Ron Paul and Gary Johnson did.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-05-05   23:45:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: James Deffenbach (#9)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-05-05   23:54:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Eric Stratton, Jethro Tull (#10)

Five of the guys running on the R ticket had a debate in Greenville, South Carolina tonight. I didn't watch it but I saw on another thread where JT said that Ron Paul got a sustained ovation for his anti-war stance.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-05-05   23:56:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: James Deffenbach (#11)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-05-06   0:08:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: RickyJ (#6)

Bush and Cheney couldn't run a whore house much less a secret false flag attack on America.

Bush, no. Bush couldn't tie his shoes with out a shot whiskey a toot of coke.

CHENEY on the other hand could and very much was part of the orchestration of the operation. You don't think the mossad acted without approval do you. Hell no.

Our boys talked with their boys and shit happened.

titorite  posted on  2011-05-06   1:08:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: titorite, RickyJ (#13) (Edited)

It was likely a general that was in charge, but not a general that gave the order(s).

That's just how it works.

I mean the general was only following orders.


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wudidiz  posted on  2011-05-06   2:19:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: wudidiz (#14)

It was likely a general that was in charge, but not a general that gave the order(s).

That's just how it works.

I mean the general was only following orders.

A given naturally

titorite  posted on  2011-05-06   3:18:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: titorite (#13) (Edited)

Unless Alex Jones had no idea what he was going to talk about on the show then I don't think Israel will in anyway be connected to this story that is being told. Israel had the power and the people in the right positions to pull this off without Cheney's help. Not that I don't think Cheney is a sleazy guy, but they didn't need him.

I believe this whole operation was a show of power by Israel to the USA that it will not hesitate to kill anyone that gets in their way. They were basically saying obey us from now on or suffer the consequences.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-05-06   4:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

Pieczenik on C2C Tues night.

Novosti poll:

Votes The world will become a better place without al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden: 05/05/2011

*

18 / 24.7%

No, it will only get worse as followers will take relentless revenge *

8 / 11.0%

Yes, now we can all sleep at night *

8 / 11.0%

Bin Laden isn’t dead; he’ll appear again in a couple of months *

32 / 43.8%

Nothing will change, bin Laden wasn’t in charge any more *

7 / 9.6%

Bin Laden’s replacement will be even more ruthless

Tatarewicz  posted on  2011-05-06   6:54:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Eric Stratton (#8)

LOL

Well, if you believed the official story Terry Yeakey "...slashed himself eleven times on both forearms before cutting his own throat twice near the jugular vein. Then, apparently seeking even a more private place to die, he crawled another mile of rough terrain away from his car and climbed a fence, before shooting himself in the head with a small caliber revolver..."

Who Killed Terry Yeakey?

If Terry Yeakey could have done all that then this guy can surely tie his own hands behind his back, stab himself numerous times and then hang himself in Fort Marcy Park.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-05-06   10:24:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: James Deffenbach (#18)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-05-06   10:45:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Eric Stratton (#19)

He was probably swerving a little, but nonetheless, impressive.

Think what a career he could have had in NASCAR!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-05-06   11:01:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: James Deffenbach (#20)

deleted

The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-05-06   11:29:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

Not exactly a top govt insider. Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik last held a govt job back in the early 1990s, under Old Bush.

If OBL had been killed while Dubya was in office, I am sure that our Special Needs President would have announced it so he could leave office on a sweeter note than the Wall Street meltdown. If it had happened before 2011, Obama would have announced before the ruinous 2010 elections. AND we would have seen a new spokesman for Al-Qaeda and possibly a power struggle or a splintering. THe fact that Al-Qaeda now acknowledges OBL's death - despite some bleating from conspiracy theorists that there was no body - indicates that OBL was alive until last week and is now enjoying his 24 ghilmen.

Shoonra  posted on  2011-05-06   12:38:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Shoonra (#22)

A man known, back in the early part of the decade, to be suffering from kidney disease, renal failure, on dialysis and with Marfan Syndrome just lived on indefinitely until the Kenyan decided to get some brownie points for having someone assassinate him? Get real. If they shot bin Laden they shot a frozen corpse.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-05-06   19:01:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: James Deffenbach (#23)

An extremely rich man, with some medical training, was certainly able to keep going for a decade, especially since he could afford the best care.

Questions arise as to how accurate was that long-distance diagnosis of his illness, especially in light of other Arab terrorists who let it be known that they were dying in order to discourage pursuers (the Lockerbee bomber just the latest in a string that included, IIRC, Abu Nidal).

If OBL had kidney failure, someone with so much money and so few scruples, could obtain a kidney transplant (or two), and, in light of OBL's reputation, I could make a guess as to how voluntary the kidney donor was.

Shoonra  posted on  2011-05-07   9:57:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Shoonra, Dakmar, 4um, all (#24) (Edited)

Congratulations on reaching your goal of being the stupidest fuckwit on the planet, Bernie.

Contact Dakmar to claim your prize.

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Esso  posted on  2011-05-07   10:17:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Shoonra (#24)

If OBL had kidney failure, someone with so much money and so few scruples, could obtain a kidney transplant (or two), and, in light of OBL's reputation, I could make a guess as to how voluntary the kidney donor was.

Yeah, you can GUESS about a lot of things, especially if you think it is giving aid and comfort to the Kenyan. How many scruples does it take to order someone to shoot a corpse?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-05-07   12:36:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Shoonra, James Deffenbach (#24)

...and so few scruples, could obtain a kidney transplant (or two), and, in light of OBL's reputation, I could make a guess as to how voluntary the kidney donor was.

Oh, kind of like the Palestinian Organ "donors". Or the ones in our good trading partner China.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2011-05-07   13:24:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Original_Intent (#27)

I think he knows better than that $#it he's posting. A man as sick back in the early part of the decade wasn't still alive for Obama to have a trophy. Just another one of Obama's lies.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-05-07   14:43:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: randge (#2)

Please impeach the source, if you can, Ricky.

Hurry up and read it before it is deleted by the Jews who control wiki.

Dr. Pieczenik is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-05-08   7:51:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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