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Title: Bin Laden's wife spent 6 years in Pakistani house
Source: AP
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110506 ... on_re_as/as_pakistan_bin_laden
Published: May 6, 2011
Author: MUNIR AHMED
Post Date: 2011-05-06 08:50:29 by Eric Stratton
Keywords: None
Views: 244
Comments: 13

Bin Laden's wife spent 6 years in Pakistani house
By MUNIR AHMED, Associated Press

ISLAMABAD – One of three wives living with Osama bin Laden has told Pakistani interrogators she had been staying in the al-Qaida chief's hideout for six years without leaving its upper floors, a Pakistani intelligence official said Friday.

The woman, identified as Yemeni-born Amal Ahmed Abdullfattah, and the other two wives of bin Laden are being interrogated in Pakistan after they were taken into custody following the American raid on bin Laden's compound in the town of Abbottabad.

Pakistani authorities are also holding eight or nine children who were found there after the U.S. commandos left.

The corpses of at least three slain men were also left behind, while bin Laden's body was taken and buried at sea.

The wives' accounts will help show how bin Laden spent his time and how he managed to avoid capture, living in a large house close to military academy in a garrison town, a two-and-a-half hours' drive from the capital Islamabad.

Given shifting and incomplete accounts from U.S. officials about what happened during the raid, the women's testimonies may also be significant in unveiling details about the operation.

A Pakistani official said CIA officers had not been given access to the women in custody. Military and intelligence relations between the United States and Pakistan have been strained even before Monday's helicopter-borne raid, and have become more so in its aftermath. There is also anger among Pakistanis over the raid, which many see as a violation of their country's sovereignty.

On Friday, American drone-fired missiles killed 10 people in North Waziristan, an al-Qaida and Taliban hotspot close to Afghanistan, Pakistani officials said. The strike risks more tensions between the two countries. Such attacks were routine last year, but their frequency has dropped this year amid opposition by the Pakistan security establishment.

The Pakistani intelligence official did not say on Friday whether the Yemeni wife has said that bin Laden was also living there since 2006. "We are still getting information from them," he said, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to give his name to the media.

A security official said the wife was shot in the leg during the operation, and did not witness her husband being killed. He also said one of bin Laden's eldest daughters had said she witnessed the Americans killing her father.

Meanwhile, Pakistan's intelligence agency has concluded that bin Laden was "cash strapped" in his final days and that al-Qaida had split into two factions, with the larger one controlled by the group's No. 2, Ayman al-Zawahri, according to a briefing given by a senior officer in the agency.

The officer spoke to a small group of Pakistani reporters late Thursday. A top military officer also present at the briefing told The Associated Press what was said, as did two of the journalists. All asked that their names not be used because of the sensitivity of the meeting.

The officer didn't provide details or elaborate how his agency made the conclusions about bin Laden's financial situation or the split with his deputy, al-Zawahri. The al-Qaida chief had apparently lived without any guards at the Abbottabad compound or loyalists nearby to take up arms in his defense.

The image of Pakistan's intelligence agency has been battered at home and abroad in the wake of the raid that killed bin Laden. Portraying him as isolated and weak may be aimed at trying to create an impression that a failure to spot him was not so important.

Documents taken from the house by American commandos showed that bin Laden was planning to hit America, however, including a plan for derailing an American train on the upcoming 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. The confiscated materials reveal the rail attack was planned as of February 2010.

Late Thursday, two Pakistani officials cited bin Laden's wives and children as saying he and his associates had not offered any "significant resistance" when the American commandos entered the compound, in part because the assailants had thrown "stun bombs" that disorientated them.

One official said Pakistani authorities found an AK-47 and a pistol in the house belonging to those in the house, with evidence that one bullet had been fired from the rifle.

"That was the level of resistance" they put up, said the official, who also spoke on condition of anonymity.

His account is roughly consistent with the most recent one given by U.S. officials, who now say one of the five people, killed in the raid was armed and fired any shots, a striking departure from the intense and prolonged firefight described earlier by the White House and others in the administration.

U.S. officials say four men were killed alongside bin Laden, including one of his sons.

The raid has exacerbated tensions between America and Pakistan. The army here is angry that it was not told about the unilateral raid on a target within its territory, while there are suspicions in Washington that bin Laden may have been protected by Pakistani security forces while on the run.

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#1. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

Difficult to give much credence to a source who cannot count children.

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is still missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-05-06   8:56:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Lod (#1)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-05-06   8:57:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Artisan, noone222, lod, jethro tull, christine, wudidiz, rotara, original_intent, titorite (#1)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-05-06   9:09:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Eric Stratton (#3)

I don't think that MSM has driven policy, but I know that they have encouraged and supported the lies of the day.

Except for our local micro-broadcaster, I now listen to music in the PU.

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is still missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-05-06   9:13:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Lod (#4)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-05-06   9:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Eric Stratton (#5)

My pick'em up truck.

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is still missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-05-06   9:22:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Eric Stratton, 4 (#3)

You know what would be very effective, and may already be done, is a documentary on all of the known media manipulations that drove policy.

I'll give one good example, that girl that acted that she was a Kuwaiti when the Iraqi's invaded Kuwait, but who was really the daughter of a diplomat here in the states.

What a terrific idea. Just off the top of my head one could begin with Andrew Jackson, Lincoln, "To hell with Spain, remember the Maine", the intervention of the dough boys thanks to the Progressive Woodrow Wilson, the lies of Pearl Harbor, the ignoring of Patton at the end of WWII, the ignoring of MacArthur during Korea, the JFK lie, the Gulf of Tonkin lie, up to and including this new round of Interventionism on steroids.

I'd definitely contribute to any effort to get this on a DVD.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-05-06   9:31:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jethro Tull (#7)

Lying US to War

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is still missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-05-06   9:42:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Lod (#6)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-05-06   10:04:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-05-06   10:05:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

I find it hard to believe that bin laden chose to hole up in a veritable prison compound with no means of escape. There's nothing believable about this story.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2011-05-06   13:30:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-05-06   17:54:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

Looks to me that Bin Laden and the CIA had different definitions of "retired" in mind.

The way this thing is now alleged to have played out, Bin Laden was resting comfortably at home with NO EXPECTATION WHATSOEVER an attack was imminent.

[That is if he was even there at all which is a legitimate question.]

Democracy: “a government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meetings or any other form of direct expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude towards property is communistic-negative property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it is based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. It results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.” The 1928 Army Field Manual

noone222  posted on  2011-05-07   4:36:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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