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Title: What do you think about gold and silver coins being proposed as SC tender?
Source: FOX
URL Source: http://www.midlandsconnect.com/news/politics/story.aspx?id=616413
Published: May 12, 2011
Author: Fraendy Clervaud
Post Date: 2011-05-12 06:49:39 by noone222
Keywords: None
Views: 329
Comments: 30

COLUMBIA (WACH) -- South Carolina lawmakers are proposing a bill that would give the state another form of legal tender.

Sen. David Thomas, a Republican from Greenville, wants to make gold and silver coins another option in the Palmetto State. Lawmakers are calling it the Sound Money Legislation.

"I'm no financial expert but am I smart enough to know that you can't keep printing money when it has no backing," says SC Republican Representative Mac Toole.

Thomas also wants a special joint committee to study the need and process for establishing an alternate currency. Read the entire bill here.

“For those of you who think this is a way to re-establish secession, the bill was passed in Utah and it’s currently law there," SC Republican Representative Mike Pitts.

A similar bill has been introduced in the House. Both bills have been referred to committee.

“Sound money is fundamental money that has maintained its purchasing power over a very long time. Why does it do that? Because it has intrinsic inherit value. The piece of paper doesn't have intrinsic value,” says Dr. Steve Isom, South Carolina Sound Money.

The group http://SoundMoney.com gathered at the State House for a press conference Wednesday morning. Rep. Michael Pitts, one of the House bill sponsors, was on hand along with Sound Money Chairman Dr. Steve Isom.

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The sponsors explain sound money holds its purchasing power over long periods of time. Proponents also say the additional tender would help protect the state's financial situation in a failing economy, which is the reason they want to get back to the Gold Standard and get rid of the Federal Reserve.

But some disagree with this legislation.

Two local jewelers tell WACH Fox they’re not sure how possible this alternative currency would be because they say the price of gold and silver fluctuates and that the commodity market is too volatile.

What do you think about the idea of another form of legal tender? Leave a comment below to weigh in with your thoughts.


Poster Comment:

Without CONSTITUTIONAL MONEY (Gold / Silver Coinage) NO CONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT EXISTS ! These well intentioned SC legislators are attempting to remove SC from D.C.'s strangle hold and return it to its original status of being South Carolina, a Sovereign State where its rights and those of the free people REALLY do exist.

The comments within the article are fraught with misperceptions that need to be exposed. One example is this: Two local jewelers tell WACH Fox they’re not sure how possible this alternative currency would be because they say the price of gold and silver fluctuates and that the commodity market is too volatile. It's the fiat paper dollar that is fluctuating !

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#1. To: noone222 (#0)

(1) First, FRNs do not have "no backing"; they are printed up when the Federal Reserve purchases Treasury bonds, and only according to the value of the bonds purchased by the Fed (the interest paid on such bonds is plowed back directly to the Treasury).

(2) Second, under the US Constitution, Article I, section 10 clause 1, a State, such as South Carolina, cannot mint its own money (and it cannot reject the money minted under Congressional authority in section 8, clause 5). The only option available to a State is to accept, concurrent with US currency, gold and silver coins (not powder, bullion or nuggets) minted by FOREIGN countries - whose exchange value is already set by the US Congress under section 8 clause 5.

Shoonra  posted on  2011-05-12   10:01:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#2. To: Shoonra (#1)

The pieces of paper which are illegally designated Federal Reserve Notes* do not have any backing other than the people's "faith" in the government. And I have noticed that that is getting to be less and less and I thank God for that. While it is true that the states cannot, under the terms of the Constitution, mint its own money it is also true that Congress cannot print up reams of paper and call it money. The fact that they do it does not justify it, they have no authority to do it, nor to give this power over to a cartel of national and international bankers who have robbed the American people blind.

A PLEA FOR THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, Wounded in the House of Its Guardians

*they do NOT meet the legal definition of a note

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-05-12 10:11:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Shoonra, noone222 (#1)

(1) First, FRNs do not have "no backing"; they are printed up when the Federal Reserve purchases Treasury bonds, and only according to the value of the bonds purchased by the Fed (the interest paid on such bonds is plowed back directly to the Treasury).

I love it when people bring up this argument because it is so delightfully disingenuous and dishonest.

The member banks that OWN the Feral reserve also control money creation and the rate at which that money is "loaned" to member banks. By controlling the overall money aggregates they control the amount of money in circulation and of course loan to themselves at rates greatly under the market rate.

By controlling the volume of money in circulation they can create inflation or deflation at will and since they ARE the insiders they know in advance which it will be and thus are in a position to take advantage.

A good case in point is the Great Depression of the 1930's when the Federal Reserve collapsed the money supply withdrawing fully a third of the total monetary aggregate in the years 1931-1933. The predictable result of that deflation was that the economy ground to a halt as there was insufficient money in circulation to keep the economic engine running. Of course the Banksters were all set to take advantage of it and using the misery of millions to enrich the few they then used their money creation powers to purchase up assets at literally pennies on the dollar.

Under our current scene we can see the banksters creating TRILLIONS and then loaning it at zero or near zero interest rates to their affiliated Famblies.

I could take the analysis further but will eschew the impulse as we both know the game just as we both know that you know that your argument was, to put it politely, disingenuous.

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