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Title: The 1931 Pierce-Arrow electric motor car that got its energy from thin air. (?)
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URL Source: http://presscore.ca/2011/?p=91
Published: May 13, 2011
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Post Date: 2011-05-13 12:41:05 by PSUSA
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Nikola Tesla powered this all steel frame and body 1931 Pierce-Arrow with electrical energy that was harnessed from thin air. Not a drop of gasoline or diesel fuel was used. In fact the internal combustion engine was completely removed. No battery banks were used either. This vehicle was driven to speeds of 90 miles per hour with no fossil fuel and just a single 12 volt battery. This infinite and free energy source produces absolutely zero emissions.

Dallas Morning News The Electric Auto that almost triumphed: Power Source of ‘31 car still a mystery by A.C. Greene, January 24th, 1931

It is a mystery car once demonstrated by Nikola Tesla, developer of alternating current, that might have made electrics triumphant.

Supported by the Pierce-Arrow Co. and Westinghouse in 1931, he took the gasoline engine from a new Pierce-Arrow and replaced it with an 80-horsepower alternating-current electric motor with no external power source. From the electric motor trailed two very thick cables, which connected with the dashboard. In addition, there was an ordinary 12-volt storage battery. (”There was a 12-volt Willard battery installed in the car, but it was for the lights only and much too small to run the car. In any case.”) The motor was rated at 80 horsepower. Maximum rotor speed was stated to be 30 turns per second (1800 rpm). A 6-foot vertical antenna rod was fitted into the rear section of the car.

At the appointed time, Nikola Tesla arrived from New York City and inspected the Pierce-Arrow automobile. He then went to a local radio store and purchased a handful of tubes (12 radio vacuum tubes), wires and assorted resistors. A box measuring 24 inches long, 12 inches wide and 6 inches high was assembled housing the circuit. The “power receiver” was then placed into the dashboard of the car and its wires connected to the antenna and to the air-cooled, brushless motor. Two rods 1/4” in diameter stuck out of the box about 3” in length. Tesla began making adjustments on the “power receiver”

Mr. Tesla got into the driver’s seat, pushed the two rods in and stated, “We now have power”. He put the car into gear and it moved forward! This vehicle, powered by an A.C. motor, was driven to speeds of 90 m.p.h. and performed better than any internal combustion engine of its day! One week was spent testing the vehicle. Several newspapers in Buffalo reported this test. When asked where the power came from, Tesla replied, “From the ethers all around us”. (Ethers is Electromagnetic radiation. Radio waves is electromagnetic radiation which has the lowest frequency, the longest wavelength, and is produced by charged particles moving back and forth) Several people suggested that Tesla was mad and somehow in league with sinister forces of the universe. He became incensed, removed his mysterious box from the vehicle and returned to his laboratory in New York City. His secret died with him!

Or did it?

How did ethers power the vehicle? The owner of FuelReducer and editor of this website, Paul W Kincaid, has been trying to answer that question since 2005, when he first read about it in an old magazine he found in a neighbor’s barn. According to data from the 5 years of investigation there is one very plausible explanation as to how ethers powered the car. Research data indicates that Tesla’s mystery box was nothing more than a simple regenerative vacuum tube radio wave receiver. A type of electronic instrument that receives radio frequencies from thin air and amplifies the received weak radio signal. This simple receiver makes use of vacuum tubes, resistors and wires (the exact same electronic components used by Tesla) to increase the power and/or amplitude of a signal. The main component of Tesla’s “Power Receiver” is the vacuum tube – also called a valve amplifier. The simplest valve amplifier was invented by John Ambrose Fleming while working for the Marconi Company in London in 1904 and named the diode, as it had two electrodes. The diode conducted electricity in one direction only and was used as a radio detector and a rectifier. The diode was most likely used as an instrument to convert AC (alternating current is when the movement of electric charge periodically reverses direction) of RF to DC (direct current is the flow of electric charge is only in one direction) In 1906 Lee De Forest added a third electrode and invented the first electronic amplifying device, the triode, which he named the Audion. This additional control grid modulates the current that flows between cathode and anode.

Tesla used valve amplifiers to increase the power or amplitude of the ordinary radio waves that were received by the 6-foot vertical antenna rod that was fitted into the rear section of the car. An antenna is a transducer that transmits or receives electromagnetic waves. In other words, Tesla used the antenna mounted on the rear of the car to convert the freely available electromagnetic waves called radio waves into electrical current.

Tesla bought vacuum tube diodes which are vacuum tubes (valve amplifiers) with two electrodes; a plate and a cathode. A diode is a two-terminal electronic component that conducts electric current in only one direction while blocking current in the opposite direction (the reverse direction). Thus, the diode can be thought of as an electronic version of a check valve. This unidirectional behavior is called rectification, and is used to convert alternating current (AC or the power that comes from your home’s electrical outlets) to direct current (DC or the power from a battery). AC power circuit is a sine wave. Audio and radio signals carried on electrical wires (such as an antenna) are also examples of alternating current.

Tesla used the vacuum tubes, wires and assorted resistors to build a radio wave receiver/amplifier 24 inches long, 12 inches wide and 6 inches high, with a pair of 3-inch rods 1/4” in diameter sticking out. The pair of rods that Tesla pushed in were used to close (complete) the circuit – like an on/off switch. The rod ends were most likely the positive and negative leads (connections) between the car antenna and and the radio wave receiver/amplifier. By pushing them into the box containing the radio wave receiver/amplifier the connection was completed allowing the radio waves that were received from the air by the antenna to flow through the receiver/amplifier to the electric motor. This is like you would do when you plugged an electric guitar into an amplifier. Like the electric guitar amplifier the signal generated by striking a cord (string) of a guitar would travel from the guitar through the wire connecting the guitar to the amplifier and into the amplifier where the barely audible tone would then be amplified. An electric guitar without an amplifier is essential an air guitar until it is plugged into an amplifier. The amplifier amplifies the sound wave generated by striking the strings of the electric guitar. That is basically how Tesla was able to amplify and convert the invisible electromagnetic radiation called radio waves into electricity to power the AC motor in the 1931 Pierce-Arrow. The word electricity comes from the fact that current is nothing more than electrons moving along a conductor, like an antenna, that have been harnessed for energy. Tesla used an antenna (an electrical conductor) and an amplifier to harness and then amplify energy.

Why hasn’t anyone revealed this 80 year old secret? Because Tesla built a free energy device. A device that would threaten the oil industry, the nuclear energy industry and the hydro electric power monopoly. A device that would bankrupt every oil refinery in the World. A device that would literally put an end to Global warming. Disease and illnesses caused by pollution from oil and gas products would simply disappear. If Tesla’s invention was put into mass production the World would never have been involved in wars in the Middle East and Afghanistan, the Exxon Mobil and BP oil spills would never have occurred, and millions of people would still be alive and very healthy today.


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#11. To: FormerLurker (#9)

Oddly enough, he also claimed to be in contact with alien intelligences.

If that's true, then he was involved in the occult. That is what occultists do. Some call it "magic". Magic is relative to known technology.'

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PSUSA  posted on  2011-05-13   17:45:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: PSUSA (#11)

Being in touch with alien entities does not necessarily involve "dabbling in the occult".

Have you ever heard of Barney and Betty Hill, or the thousands upon thousands of other people who claim to have been abducted by alien beings?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-05-13   17:49:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: PSUSA (#11)

Some call it "magic".

As far as Aleister Crowley's little friend Lam, that'd be Magick with a "k" at the end.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-05-13   17:52:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: FormerLurker (#12)

Was he abducted? Or was it benign contact(s)? You seem to know, since you brought it up.

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PSUSA  posted on  2011-05-13   17:54:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: FormerLurker (#13)

I think that is how he differentiated it from stage magic.

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PSUSA  posted on  2011-05-13   17:55:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: PSUSA (#11)

If that's true, then he was involved in the occult. That is what occultists do. Some call it "magic". Magic is relative to known technology.'

Don't forget the incredibly escapable Harry Houdini. ROTFL....

"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02

buckeroo  posted on  2011-05-13   18:00:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: PSUSA (#14)

Was he abducted? Or was it benign contact(s)? You seem to know, since you brought it up.

I don't think he was abducted, but from what I've read, he thought he was receiving alien transmissions on his radio equipment, which differed from standard radio technology in that it used longitudal waves rather than transverse waves.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-05-13   18:10:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: buckeroo, PSUSA (#16)

Don't forget the incredibly escapable Harry Houdini. ROTFL....

And that is magic with no "k" at the end.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-05-13   18:11:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: FormerLurker (#18)

Don't you worry about a thing, FL. I am laffing at you not with you.

"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02

buckeroo  posted on  2011-05-13   18:13:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: buckeroo (#19)

Don't you worry about a thing, FL. I am laffing at you not with you.

Have you never looked into Masonry, Kabbalah, or other such things?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-05-13   18:14:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: buckeroo (#19)

Did you bother clicking on the link provided concerning "Lam"?

It's an interesting article, you should check it out.

BTW, I thought you were forever staying away from the Internet after the last time you graced us with your presence. What happened?

I'm still waiting for the big show you promised...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-05-13   18:18:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: FormerLurker (#20)

Have you never looked into Masonry, Kabbalah, or other such things?

Mysticism, spiritualism, Ouija boards, palmistry and Voodoo Dolls besides crop circles are not something I dabble in. Sorry.

"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02

buckeroo  posted on  2011-05-13   18:28:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: buckeroo, formerlurker (#16)

Don't forget the incredibly escapable Harry Houdini. ROTFL....

He was the Randi of his day.

There was also someone very few have heard of. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Bardon that was a stage magician and an occult magician.

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PSUSA  posted on  2011-05-13   18:28:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: FormerLurker (#21)

BTW, I thought you were forever staying away from the Internet after the last time you graced us with your presence. What happened?

It was a "dud," dude. No facts, no proof, no data other than hearsay, gossip, coverups, betrayal, rumours, BS, and old ladies yammering to get their jollies off.

"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02

buckeroo  posted on  2011-05-13   18:31:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: FormerLurker (#17)

which differed from standard radio technology in that it used longitudal waves rather than transverse waves

That doesn't make sense to me.

What you describe is the result of the orientation of the antennas, not some kind of different wave.

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PSUSA  posted on  2011-05-13   18:40:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: PSUSA (#25)

That doesn't make sense to me.

What you describe is the result of the orientation of the antennas, not some kind of different wave.

Longitudinal and Transverse Wave Motion


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-05-13   18:42:38 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: buckeroo (#22)

Mysticism, spiritualism, Ouija boards, palmistry and Voodoo Dolls besides crop circles are not something I dabble in. Sorry.

Ouija boards you should stay away from, I hear that they attract "bad" spirits.

Never messed with palm reading or voodoo either.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-05-13   18:44:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: buckeroo (#24)

It was a "dud," dude. No facts, no proof, no data other than hearsay, gossip, coverups, betrayal, rumours, BS, and old ladies yammering to get their jollies off.

So they all misunderstood poor buck, the "wee, little poster traveling the byways of the Internet looking for truth and love"..


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-05-13   18:47:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: PSUSA (#25)


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-05-13   18:57:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: FormerLurker (#29) (Edited)

So Tesla's communications was supposedly based on sound wave principles and not RF?

I had to go back and refresh my memory on some things. I took some college electronics but that was 20 years ago.

I wonder how something like this could work. It reminds me of FM signals.

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PSUSA  posted on  2011-05-13   19:28:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: PSUSA, FormerLurker (#30)

I've been poking around some, and I believe Tesla's car may have used his wireless energy transmission techniques, rather than pulling energy out of thin air with no source generating it:

"An article appearing in the New York Daily News, April 2, 1934 titled "Tesla's Wireless Power Dream Nears Reality" mentions the planned "test run of a motor car [for a distance of 30 or 40 miles] over a stretch of [Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe] railway track [running from Boise City, Oklahoma] to Farley, N. M." using wireless transmission of electrical energy to power the vehicle. The equipment was assembled by "two Californians" and is described as "including a high-powered radio transmitter with big coils and and short antenna."

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Dakmar  posted on  2011-05-13   19:42:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: PSUSA (#30)

So Tesla's communications was supposedly based on sound wave principles and not RF?

Nope.

From what I can ascertain, it would be based upon the compression of space in regards to the Vortex Theory of Matter and Energy, since that theory describes space as a type of fluid (although a very different sort of fluid than what we can see and touch), rather than a vacuum containing nothing.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-05-13   20:15:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Dakmar (#31)

I've been poking around some, and I believe Tesla's car may have used his wireless energy transmission techniques, rather than pulling energy out of thin air with no source generating it:

Thing is, Tesla was known to be working on "zero point energy" which involves getting energy out of thin air. He WAS also working on transmitting energy wirelessly, so who knows for sure, but it would seem to me in regards to the original article that he wasn't transmitting power from an external source and tapping into it, he was actually tapping into zero point energy.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-05-13   20:19:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: FormerLurker (#33)

It's possible, I'm not discounting anything. My basis for interjecting with the wireless transmission theory was that the writer of the 1931 article was just as ill-informed as I am.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2011-05-13   20:24:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: PSUSA (#30)

Truthfully, do we even know for a fact what exactly an electric field IS, or what a magnetic field really is?

We can see and measure their effect, but can anyone explain WHAT they are exactly?

Myself, I tend to think of space as a fluid which acts as an energy medium, where ripples in that medium are waves consisting of a transverse and longitidinal component.

One type of wave motion could relate to electric field, and the other relate to magnetic field.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-05-13   20:28:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Dakmar (#34)

My basis for interjecting with the wireless transmission theory was that the writer of the 1931 article was just as ill-informed as I am.

It's hard to be informed about something the government has kept under lock and key.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-05-13   20:29:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: FormerLurker (#36)

Sure, but to be honest I'd never heard of zero point energy until your post, or if I had it went in one ear and out both.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2011-05-13   20:34:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: PSUSA (#30)

I had to go back and refresh my memory on some things. I took some college electronics but that was 20 years ago.

I took a class in high-school, all I remember is something about some slutty girl named violet.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2011-05-13   20:38:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Dakmar (#38)

I took a class in high-school, all I remember is something about some slutty girl named violet.

Ah yes, the old poem about the resistor color code...

Big Boys Rape Our Young Girls, But Violet Gives Willingly for Gold or Silver.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-05-14   11:17:21 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Dakmar (#37)

Sure, but to be honest I'd never heard of zero point energy until your post, or if I had it went in one ear and out both.

Here's a really decent documentary on zero point energy...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-05-14   11:38:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: FormerLurker, Dakmar (#39)

Although if you are reworking a piece of audio equipment Ceramic precision resistors are best - matched as closely as possible. Same for capacitors - high end film (pricey little fuckers) and matched. You have to be handy with a soldering iron though. And use Hi-Fi Tuning Fuses to replace the standard slo-blo's.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-05-14   11:50:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Original_Intent (#41)

And use Hi-Fi Tuning Fuses to replace the standard slo-blo's

Slo-blos are used to avoid blowing the fuse due to the initial power surge that occurs upon turning the equipment on.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-05-14   12:36:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: FormerLurker (#42)

True, but oddly enough the Hi-Fi Tuning fuses do make a difference in sound quality on good equipment. You would probably hear little difference on Mid-Fi equipment and none at all on the cheap junk, but there is a subtle improvement on good gear.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-05-14   13:03:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Original_Intent (#43)

True, but oddly enough the Hi-Fi Tuning fuses do make a difference in sound quality on good equipment. You would probably hear little difference on Mid-Fi equipment and none at all on the cheap junk, but there is a subtle improvement on good gear.

But aren't the "high-fi" fuses you're talking about speaker fuses?

The power fuse should have absolutely no effect on the sound quality as they simply protect the power supply from damage in the event of excessive power draw due to a short circuit in the equipment.

Any reasonably well designed power supply filters the incoming AC to pure DC and regulates down to +/- 1% or better. The fuse is not a factor in that regulation or filtering, and has zero effect on the resulting DC output other than being on or off (in the event the fuse blows).


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-05-14   13:15:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: FormerLurker (#40)

The Lee guy, from about 1:10-20 has an amazing invention...and to spend two years in CA lock-down for it?

He should own the place.

Thanks much for this fascinating show.

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is still missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-05-14   16:34:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: FormerLurker (#44)

In theory it seems wacky and that they should not make a difference, but everyone I've read who has tried them has reported an improvement.

Here's a review: www.6moons.com/audioreviews/net/net.html

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-05-14   17:33:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Original_Intent (#46)

In theory it seems wacky and that they should not make a difference, but everyone I've read who has tried them has reported an improvement.

It's probably just a placebo effect.

I'd like to see an oscilloscope on each power line, with and without a "hi-fi" power fuse in place.

It sounds like snake oil to me.

On the other hand if the fuses are inline DC power fuses, then they MIGHT make a difference, but standard AC power fuses, no way.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-05-14   22:45:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Lod (#45)

Thanks much for this fascinating show.

YW Lod, and yeah, I learned a few things I hadn't heard of either from viewing that vid.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-05-14   22:46:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: FormerLurker (#48)

If you have a good link to that Lee guy, I would surely appreciate it.

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is still missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-05-14   22:50:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Lod (#49)

If you have a good link to that Lee guy, I would surely appreciate it.

Sure his name wasn't Troy Reed?

That's who I see at the section of the vid that you brought up.

Here's a link to what he's up to...

Troy REED Magnetic Motor


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-05-14   22:58:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: FormerLurker (#50)

Goodness! thanks for the stuff to sift through.

After all these post-Tesla years, we're still not there.

Not surprisingly, I guess.

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is still missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-05-14   23:25:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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