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Title: So we are having a Nuclear Earth Poisoning Event and nobody is talking about it.
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Published: May 16, 2011
Author: tom007
Post Date: 2011-05-16 00:36:20 by tom007
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Comments: 17

World poisoning is not news worthy???

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#1. To: tom007 (#0)

nope ;)

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it~Joseph Goebbels

christine  posted on  2011-05-16   1:42:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine, tom007 (#1) (Edited)

nope ;)

Hopefullly those extraterrestrials can help us with the nuclear mess in Japan, and the mess in the Gulf.

While they're at it, perhaps they'll help us out against the oppression we all endure.

Hopefully.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-05-16   2:13:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: tom007 (#0)

Cherobyl was bad with one meltdown. This is multiple ongoing meltdowns each greater than Chernobyl, and they can't even figure out how to emtomb the reactors. Japan is gone. We are in trouble as well. Then there is all the depleted uranium weaponry the US and NATO have deployed around the world. Nuclear power and nuclear weaponry represent a door into hell that should have never been opened.

octavia  posted on  2011-05-16   7:54:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: tom007 (#0)

Not news worthy to the bought and paid for MSM.

titorite  posted on  2011-05-16   8:13:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: octavia (#3)

Nuclear power and nuclear weaponry represent a door into hell that should have never been opened.

So it does seem.

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tom007  posted on  2011-05-16   8:15:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: octavia (#3)

Nuclear power and nuclear weaponry represent a door into hell that should have never been opened.

Oh great. NOW you tell us.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936 2011)

Esso  posted on  2011-05-16   9:54:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: tom007 (#0)

Has the world noticed?

"Whatever we do, it doesn't matter - they are animals," he cried in Spanish, when asked why the peacekeepers were not trying to explain anything in French or Creole.

I got all the dominoes and you ain't got none
Frisk'im sergeant Deo frisk'im

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2011-05-16   12:54:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: FormerLurker, christine, tom007 (#2)

nope ;)

Hopefullly those extraterrestrials can help us with the nuclear mess in Japan, and the mess in the Gulf.

While they're at it, perhaps they'll help us out against the oppression we all endure.

Hopefully.

As I am sure you are likely aware there are unconfirmed rumors of sightings over Chernobyl and the speculation that the Russians had help in dampening the pile. I don't necessarily accept that, but then it wouldn't surprise me either.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-05-16   13:03:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: tom007 (#0)

World poisoning is not news worthy???

It's bad for profits. Just ask GE/NBC. Man, we're talking about billions in reactor sales here. Who cares about Cesium, Plutonium, etc., ...? It's more important to protect GE's bottom line from being poisoned.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-05-16   13:06:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: octavia, Tom007, all (#3)

Cherobyl was bad with one meltdown. This is multiple ongoing meltdowns each greater than Chernobyl, and they can't even figure out how to emtomb the reactors. Japan is gone. We are in trouble as well. Then there is all the depleted uranium weaponry the US and NATO have deployed around the world. Nuclear power and nuclear weaponry represent a door into hell that should have never been opened.

What people are not talking about, and government wants to suppress speculation of and talk about, is that we are on the precipice of a Planetary Extinction Event. At the very least we talking about shortened lifespans and dramatic increases in the incidence of cancer. Big Pharma loves it. It's good for profits.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-05-16   13:09:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: tom007 (#0)

World poisoning is not news worthy???

I hate to be the one who asks, but do you got any evidence for this Nuclear Earth Poisoning event?

Yeah I know about the nuclear reactors in Japan leaking radiation, but according to geiger counters here in the USA very little of it is reaching us.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-05-16   14:06:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: christine (#1)

nope ;)

Right, with geiger counters across the USA reporting low levels of radiation most within background radiation levels there really is not much to talk about here in the USA about this Nuclear Earth Poisoning event.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-05-16   14:11:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: RickyJ, tom007 (#11)

It comes in plumes. It is not constant high radiation. If you are running a Geiger Counter and get hit by a plume you'll know it. Also a lot of it is bound up in rain clouds and if you go out and measure right after a rain you'll very probably see elevated readings.

However, it is interesting to note that the Feral Government is NOT reporting any of its readings from any of its West Coast monitoring stations. As well they have shut down 8 out of 18 stations altogether.

UC Berkely has been running their own monitoring and has reported elevated levels of I-131 and Cs-134 and Cs-137.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-05-16   15:22:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#7)

Has the world noticed?

by listening to MSM, one would assume that it has not.

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it~Joseph Goebbels

christine  posted on  2011-05-16   16:22:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: christine (#14)

I suspect I'm still going to have to go get WeedBGon to take care of the dandelions in my lawn.

"Whatever we do, it doesn't matter - they are animals," he cried in Spanish, when asked why the peacekeepers were not trying to explain anything in French or Creole.

I got all the dominoes and you ain't got none
Frisk'im sergeant Deo frisk'im

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2011-05-16   18:06:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Original_Intent (#9)

It's bad for profits. Just ask GE/NBC. Man, we're talking about billions in reactor sales here. Who cares about Cesium, Plutonium, etc., ...? It's more important to protect GE's bottom line from being poisoned.

I took a Nuke engine class a long time ago, and at one point I kinda knew what the measurements ment to humans.

They have switched to a different unit of measure, but no doubt a frikking lot of long term nuclear poison has been blown into our lives for a long time.

Blasting Pluto into the wold's Oceans just might cause proble

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2011-05-16   21:23:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: tom007 (#16)

You might find this useful:


Basic Terms

Radiation

Radiation is energy in transit in the form of high speed particles and electromagnetic waves. We encounter electromagnetic waves every day. They make up our visible light, radio and television waves, ultra violet (UV), and microwaves and are part of a large spectrum of energies. These examples of electromagnetic waves do not cause ionizations of atoms they interact with because they do not carry enough energy to remove electrons from atoms. Radiation can be ionizing or non-ionizing.

Ionizing radiation

Ionizing radiation is radiation with enough energy so that during an interaction with an atom, it can remove tightly bound electrons from their orbits, causing the atom to become charged or ionized. Examples are gamma rays and neutrons.

Non-ionizing radiation

Non-ionizing radiation is radiation without enough energy to remove tightly bound electrons from their orbits around atoms. Examples are microwaves and visible light.

Health Physics

Health Physics is an interdisciplinary science and its application, for the radiation protection of humans and the environment. Health Physics combines the elements of physics, biology, chemistry, statistics and electronic instrumentation to provide information that can be used to protect individuals from the effects of radiation. For more on Health Physics, visit the career section of the Health Physics Society or the EPA career website.

Radioactivity

Radioactivity is the spontaneous transformation of an unstable atom and often results in the emission of radiation. This process is referred to as a transformation, a decay or a disintegrations of an atom.

Radioactive Material

Radioactive Material is any material that contains radioactive atoms.

Radioactive Contamination

Radioactive contamination is radioactive material distributed over some area, equipment or person. It tends to be unwanted in the location where it is, and has to be cleaned up or decontaminated.


Common Types of Radiation

Gamma Rays

Gamma rays are electromagnetic waves or photons emitted from the nucleus (center) of an atom.

Betas

A beta is a high speed particle, identical to an electron, that is emitted from the nucleus of an atom

Alphas

An alpha is a particle emitted from the nucleus of an atom, that contains two protons and two neutrons. It is identical to the nucleus of a Helium atom, without the electrons.

Neutrons

Neutrons are neutral particles that are normally contained in the nucleus of all atoms and may be removed by various interactions or processes like collision and fission

X rays

X Rays are electromagnetic waves or photons not emitted from the nucleus, but normally emitted by energy changes in electrons. These energy changes are either in electron orbital shells that surround an atom or in the process of slowing down such as in an X-ray machine.


Common Units - USA

These are the common units used in the United States in health physics.

Roentgen (R)

The roentgen is a unit used to measure a quantity called exposure. This can only be used to describe an amount of gamma and X-rays, and only in air. One roentgen is equal to depositing in dry air enough energy to cause 2.58 x 10-4 coulombs per kg. It is a measure of the ionizations of the molecules in a mass of air. The main advantage of this unit is that it is easy to measure directly, but it is limited because it is only for deposition in air, and only for gamma and x rays.

Rad (radiation absorbed dose)

The rad is a unit used to measure a quantity called absorbed dose. This relates to the amount of energy actually absorbed in some material, and is used for any type of radiation and any material. One rad is defined as the absorption of 100 ergs per gram of material. The unit rad can be used for any type of radiation, but it does not describe the biological effects of the different radiations.

Rem (roentgen equivalent man)

The rem is a unit used to derive a quantity called equivalent dose. This relates the absorbed dose in human tissue to the effective biological damage of the radiation. Not all radiation has the same biological effect, even for the same amount of absorbed dose. Equivalent dose is often expressed in terms of thousandths of a rem, or mrem. To determine equivalent dose (rem), you multiply absorbed dose (rad) by a quality factor (Q) that is unique to the type of incident radiation.

Curie (Ci)

The curie is a unit used to measure a radioactivity. One curie is that quantity of a radioactive material that will have 37,000,000,000 transformations in one second. Often radioactivity is expressed in smaller units like: thousandths (mCi), one millionths (uCi) or even billionths (nCi) of a curie. The relationship between becquerels and curies is: 3.7 x 1010 Bq in one curie.

Common Units - SI - International Standard

Note: These are the common units used throughout the world in health physics.

Gray (Gy)

The gray is a unit used to measure a quantity called absorbed dose. This relates to the amount of energy actually absorbed in some material, and is used for any type of radiation and any material. One gray is equal to one joule of energy deposited in one kg of a material. The unit gray can be used for any type of radiation, but it does not describe the biological effects of the different radiations. Absorbed dose is often expressed in terms of hundredths of a gray, or centi-grays. One gray is equivalent to 100 rads.

Sievert (Sv)

The sievert is a unit used to derive a quantity called equivalent dose. This relates the absorbed dose in human tissue to the effective biological damage of the radiation. Not all radiation has the same biological effect, even for the same amount of absorbed dose. Equivalent dose is often expressed in terms of millionths of a sievert, or micro-sievert. To determine equivalent dose (Sv), you multiply absorbed dose (Gy) by a quality factor (Q) that is unique to the type of incident radiation. One sievert is equivalent to 100 rem.

Becquerel (Bq)

The Becquerel is a unit used to measure a radioactivity. One Becquerel is that quantity of a radioactive material that will have 1 transformations in one second. Often radioactivity is expressed in larger units like: thousands (kBq), one millions (MBq) or even billions (GBq) of a becquerels. As a result of having one Becquerel being equal to one transformation per second, there are 3.7 x 1010 Bq in one curie.


SI Prefixes

Many units are broken down into smaller units or expressed as multiples, using standard metric prefixes. As examples, a kilobecquerel (kBq) in 1000 becquerels, a millirad (mrad) is 10-3 rad, a microrem (µrem) is 10-6 rem, a nanogram is 10-9 grams, and a picocurie is a 10-12 curies.

SI Prefixes
Factor Prefix Symbols Factor Prefix Symbols
1018exaE10-1decid
1015petaP10-2centic
1012teraT10-3millim
109gigaG10-6microµ
106megaM10-9nanon
103kilok10-12picop
102hectoh10-15femtof
101dekada10-18attoa


Terms Related to Radiation Dose

Chronic dose

A Chronic dose means a person received a radiation dose over a long period of time.

Acute dose

An acute dose means a person received a radiation dose over a short period of time.

Somatic effects

Somatic effects are effects from some agent, like radiation that are seen in the individual who receives the agent.

Genetic effects

Genetic effects are effects from some agent, that are seen in the offspring of the individual who received the agent. The agent must be encountered pre-conception.

Teratogenic effects

Teratogenic effects are effects from some agent, that are seen in the offspring of the individual who received the agent. The agent must be encountered during the gestation period.

Stochastic effects

Stochastic effects are effects that occur on a random basis with its effect being independent of the size of dose. The effect typically has no threshold and is based on probabilities, with the chances of seeing the effect increasing with dose. Cancer is a stochastic effect.

Non-stochastic effect

Non-stochastic effects are effects that can be related directly to the dose received. The effect is more severe with a higher dose, i.e., the burn gets worse as dose increases. It typically has a threshold, below which the effect will not occur. A skin burn from radiation is a non-stochastic effect.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

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