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Title: Heaven is a 'fairy story' says Stephen Hawking
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International Business Times
URL Source: http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/146 ... story-says-stephen-hawking.htm
Published: May 16, 2011
Author: IBT
Post Date: 2011-05-16 22:19:39 by Flintlock
Keywords: Heysus, Fraud, Terrible, Lie
Views: 2955
Comments: 170
Heaven is a 'fairy story' says Stephen Hawking Physicist Stephen Hawking has dismissed religion once again as he deemed heaven a "fairy story" aimed at appeasing those afraid of death. The author of 1988 international best-seller "A Brief History of Time" said in an interview with The Guardian that his views were partly influenced by his battle with motor neuron disease. "I have lived with the prospect of an early death for the last 49 years. I'm not afraid of death, but I'm in no hurry to die. I have so much I want to do first," he told the newspaper in an interview published on Monday. "I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when its components fail. There is no heaven or afterlife for broken down computers; that is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark." Hawking's stance on religion has hardened since the publishing of his seminal work. Previously, he wrote that the laws of physics meant it was simply not necessary to believe that God had intervened in the Big Bang. He wrote in A Brief History ... "If we discover a complete theory, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason -- for then we should know the mind of God." In his 2010 book, "The Grand Design" he said the 1992 discovery of a planet orbiting another star other than the Sun helped deconstruct the view of the father of physics Isaac Newton that the universe could not have arisen out of chaos but was created by God. "That makes the coincidences of our planetary conditions -- the single Sun, the lucky combination of Earth-Sun distance and solar mass, far less remarkable, and far less compelling evidence that the Earth was carefully designed just to please us human beings," he writes. Since 1974, the scientist has worked on marrying the two cornerstones of modern physics -- Albert Einstein's General Theory of Relativity, which concerns gravity and large-scale phenomena, and quantum theory, which covers subatomic particles. Read more: www.ibtimes.com/articles/...hawking.htm#ixzz1MZTleQ88 Poster Comment: IMO, Religion is nothing more than a control system to keep the sheeple on the reservation......Stephen Hawking agrees. Not bad company to have on an idea.
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#1. To: Flintlock (#0)
That proves nothing, Humans are mortal.
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
============================================================ 'Religion' by itself is nothing more than man-created god.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
You mean my wife isn't going to get her Jeebus pony? Boy, is she gonna be pissed. Like she's got problems. Odin sent me here as a guide to teach the HoosierHicks in the ways of self-sufficiency & honor. I'm not looking forward to my next trip through Valhalla.
Giddy-up "The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
Many Theists would agree, but they do not discount God. Religion and God are not necessarily synonymous.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
That's a keeper Hap!! Nicely stated.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
See #5 Sing!
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
I agree, but what has religion got to do with God? Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Religion is spirituality, ruined.
I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant
All I know is what I hear at my local 501(c)(3)Heysus groveling center and Rapture®-ready facility. Sometimes they even knock on my door.
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
The reason man is in the shape he is in today is because he IDOLIZES and WORSHIPS HIMSELF!
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
Haven't you heard? The Rapture has been cancelled due to lack of interest and poor ticket sales.
I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant
I hear it's next week...I'm girding my loins in anticipation
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
Nope! Cancelled! What makes you think you were on the list?
I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant
I sure hope I'm not. Spending eternity with a bunch of groveling rapture monkeys would surely be Hell.
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
True, there is little evidence that man has succeeded in taming the ego.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
I disagree. The reason man is in the shape he is in today is because he IDOLIZES and WORSHIPS MONEY!
I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant
You cannot see God, because God is what you see with. I define God as your mind at its deepest level. God is a level of mind where there is no illusion of a subject object split which is beyond the ego.
The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie
This succinctly sums up my perspective. Nicely stated Horse.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
God is omnipresent. He exists outside the 10 dimensions of string theory and the 11 dimensions of M theory, existing outside of space time itself. God also exists within us, permeating all that there is. We are made in his image.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
It doesn't do it for me.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
I particularly like the beyond the subject object split.....beyond duality, beyond our preconceptions. : )
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
I disagree. God can be perceived on many levels.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Like the cheap copy of an HD Sportster a Honda Shadow is....
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
Name one, with proof of course.
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
Well, the sheeple here in Ft. Wayne can't seem to muster up enough God-power to sucessfully navigate a 4-way stop sign.
Got any traffic circles? what a nightmare.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
On this point I disagree. I think this notion evolves from man's ego, which is extremely limited and prone to anthropomorphize. I don't buy the ol' bearded man in a cloud routine.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
So you're saying God is a drooling retard that relies on the government to run every aspect His life?
LOL!!!
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
Actually I disagree there. Well sort of. I do agree that man is prone to anthropomorphizing God and thus we make God in the image of a man. That is not what I'm talking about. I do not even attribute human thought processes to God. I think the made in his image part goes beyond the human vs nonhuman part.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
So, which part is made in His image? I don't attribute base human though processes to God so much either. What Horse was speaking of was the supra-conscious, the interconnecting aspect of all of creation. When he speaks of part of the mind, this is the part he is referring to, of which I agree. This part is also called the Universal Consciousness, which is the alpha and the omega of all creation. An aspect of God that is ever present, but not attainable through the base/ego levels of the human conscious in which most people are bogged down in.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
but it is attainable, that's the point. We are made in his image, we have the capacity to attain all that he is.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
The only people who think of God as a "man in the sky" are atheists and artists. I didn't say it wasn't attainable.......I said it wasn't attainable through the base/ego levels of existence. The frequency is too weak at that level, but this is the level that a good dose of humanity dwells most of the time.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
Hmmm, I might agree with that but I would have to explore this idea more to make sure we are on the same page. You know how semantics can change what is said.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
You have to understand that I believe that we not only communicate with God but that is works in our daily lives.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
No, you do. Stephen Hawking disagrees. Who is smarter, you or Steve? Hawking would call you a rube.
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
In that funny computer voice? Man, that'd be AWESOME!
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Once you go armadillo, you never go back.
#2. To: Armadillo (#1)
#3. To: Flintlock (#0)
IMO, Religion is nothing more than a control system to keep the sheeple on the reservation...
#4. To: Flintlock (#0)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936 2011)
#5. To: gengis gandhi (#0)
#6. To: Flintlock (#0)
IMO, Religion is nothing more than a control system to keep the sheeple on the reservation.....
#7. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#3)
Religion' by itself is nothing more than man-created god.
#8. To: Esso (#4)
You mean my wife isn't going to get her Jeebus pony?
Odin sent me here as a guide to teach the HoosierHicks in the ways of self-sufficiency & honor.
#9. To: Flintlock (#0)
IMO, Religion is nothing more than a control system to keep the sheeple on the reservation......
#10. To: angK, abraxas (#9)
I agree, but what has religion got to do with God?
#11. To: abraxas (#7)
#12. To: Flintlock (#10)
All I know is what I hear at my local 501(c)(3)Heysus groveling center and Rapture®-ready facility.
#13. To: angK (#12)
Haven't you heard? The Rapture has been cancelled due to lack of interest and poor ticket sales.
#14. To: Flintlock (#13)
I hear it's next week...I'm girding my loins in anticipation
#15. To: angK (#14)
What makes you think you were on the list?
#16. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#11)
The reason man is in the shape he is in today is because he IDOLIZES and WORSHIPS HIMSELF!
#17. To: angK, ALL (#14)
Nope! Cancelled!
#18. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#11)
The reason man is in the shape he is in today is because he IDOLIZES and WORSHIPS HIMSELF!
#19. To: Armadillo (#1)
#20. To: Horse (#19)
God is a level of mind where there is no illusion of a subject object split which is beyond the ego.
#21. To: Horse, Armadillo (#19)
You cannot see God, because God is what you see with. I define God as your mind at its deepest level. God is a level of mind where there is no illusion of a subject object split which is beyond the ego.
#22. To: abraxas, Horse (#20)
This succinctly sums up my perspective. Nicely stated Horse.
#23. To: farmfriend, Horse (#22)
#24. To: abraxas, Horse (#23)
#25. To: farmfriend (#21)
We are made in his image.
#26. To: farmfriend (#24)
God can be perceived on many levels.
#27. To: Horse (#19)
I define God as your mind at its deepest level.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936 2011)
#28. To: Esso (#27)
Well, the sheeple here in Ft. Wayne can't seem to muster up enough God-power to sucessfully navigate a 4-way stop sign.
#29. To: farmfriend (#21)
We are made in his image.
#30. To: farmfriend (#21)
We are made in his image.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936 2011)
#31. To: Esso (#27)
the sheeple here in Ft. Wayne can't seem to muster up enough God-power to sucessfully navigate a 4-way stop sign.
#32. To: abraxas, Esso, Original_Intent (#30)
On this point I disagree. I think this notion evolves from man's ego, which is extremely limited and prone to anthropomorphize. I don't buy the ol' bearded man in a cloud routine.
#33. To: farmfriend, Horse, Original_Intent (#32)
I think the made in his image part goes beyond the human vs nonhuman part.
#34. To: abraxas, Horse, Original_Intent, Esso (#33)
An aspect of God that is ever present, but not attainable through the base/ego levels of the human conscious in which most people are bogged down in.
#35. To: abraxas, farmfriend (#29)
I don't buy the ol' bearded man in a cloud routine.
That "routine" isnt in the Bible anywhere.
Once you go armadillo, you never go back.
#36. To: farmfriend (#34)
but it is attainable,
#37. To: abraxas (#36)
#38. To: abraxas (#36)
#39. To: farmfriend (#38)
You have to understand
I believe that we not only communicate with God but that is works in our daily lives.
#40. To: Flintlock (#39)
Hawking would call you a rube.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936 2011)
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