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Title: Indiana Supreme Court dispenses with Magna Carta, Constitution
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URL Source: http://www.sovereignman.com/expat/i ... -with-magna-carta-constitution
Published: May 17, 2011
Author: Simon Black
Post Date: 2011-05-17 06:47:54 by Ada
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Santiago, Chile Constitution toilet paper Indiana Supreme Court dispenses with Magna Carta, ConstitutionOn June 10, 1215 AD, after prolonged rebellion and frustrating negotiation, a group of England’s most influential barons entered London to force the disastrous King John Softsword into accepting a revolutionary charter of individual freedoms. Five days later in the Runnymede meadow of Surrey County, John affixed his royal seal onto what became known as the Magna Carta. It still exists on the books today in England and Wales. This document was one of the more important antecedents to the US Constitution; its proclamations ended the absolutism of England’s monarchy and spelled out very clear rights and freedoms, including, among others, the right of a man to enjoy his private property without trespass from government officials. Over 550 years later, the framers of the Constitution codified this right in the 4th Amendment to be secure in one’s private property. Last week, the Indiana Supreme Court effectively rejected both documents in two separate cases. In the first case of Lacey v. State of Indiana, the Court ruled that police officers serving a warrant on a private home may simply walk right in without knocking. The second case of Barnes v. State of Indiana is far more startling. The case deals with one Richard Barnes, a regular Joe citizen of Indiana, who was in the midst of marital problems with his wife one evening in 2007. The couple was arguing when police arrived to the scene and attempted to enter the home. Barnes made it very clear to the officers that they were not to enter his home. The officers did not have a warrant, and they did not have probably cause to believe that anything illegal was happening. But they entered regardless. Barnes tried to block the door, and as the police officers muscled their way past him, he shoved one of them against the wall in defense of his property. Barnes was choked and tasered in his own home, subsequently hospitalized, then charged with misdemeanor battery on a police officer. The case went to court, and the Barnes defense team cited a private citizen’s right to resist unlawful entry into one’s home. They lost. The case was appealed, all the way up to the Indiana Supreme Court. Here’s where it gets interesting. The Court agreed that the police officers entered the Barnes home illegally. The Court further agreed that one’s right to resist illegal entry has existed since the Magna Carta. The Court further agreed that the US Supreme Court has reaffirmed this right to resist unlawful entry in numerous court cases. Seems pretty cut and dry, no? Yet, in summarizing the court’s opinion, Justice Steven David writes, “We hold that there is -no right- to reasonably resist unlawful entry by police officers.” Wait. Full stop. A citizen has no right to resist unlawful entry by police officers on his private property? Apparently we’re all supposed to lay down like two-toed tree sloths while these jackbooted monkeys turn private property into yet another ‘rights free’ zone. Americans already have to put up with dispensation of the Constitution at airports, border checkpoints, political events, many train station, and soon to be bus terminals and shopping malls. We’d better add ‘private residence’ to that list as well. The right to protect oneself and one’s property against unlawful entry is the hallmark of any free civilization. Conversely, it is the hallmark of a totalitarian police state when government goons have the authority to go stomping around on private property without oversight of a judicious, impartial court. There is no middle ground here… and a government that is on the way to denying this right is not far down the road from denying other basic, seemingly no-brainer rights– like assembly, criticizing the government, and possession of firearms. One of the reasons I travel so much is so I don’t have to deal with this kind of nonsense. I enjoy spending time in countries where I have no fear of some government agent forcing his way into my home. There are a number of such places in the world– Chile is definitely one of them.
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#1. To: Ada (#0)
Headline: Ind. Supreme Court get harassing calls, emails Associated Press - May 17, 2011 6:54 AM ET INDIANAPOLIS (AP) - The police force that guards Indiana's capitol buildings is investigating harassing phone calls and email messages directed against the Indiana Supreme Court following a ruling last week by the high court on police authority. The Times of Munster reports that State Capitol Police say the communications are being reviewed as part of a criminal harassment investigation. Police would not say how many calls and messages have been received or whether they were addressed to a specific justice. Supreme Court spokeswoman Kathryn Dolan says the threats contained in the calls and emails were "primarily" directed at police officers. She declined to give specific details. The threats come after the high court ruled Thursday that Indiana residents have no right to resist unlawful police entry into their homes. Information from: The Times, www.thetimesonline.com SEE VIDEO at above website:
“But when you want money for people with minds that hate, All I can tell you brother is that you have to wait.” The Beatles, Revolution, 1968
This ruling by the Indiana Supremes is laughable ...
“But when you want money for people with minds that hate, All I can tell you brother is that you have to wait.” The Beatles, Revolution, 1968
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
FOX News and Judge Napolitano have addressed the issue: Indiana Supreme Court Rules Cops Can Enter YOUR Home Without A Warrant -- 3 min. YouTube video Indiana Supreme Court Is WRONG! If Cops Don't Have A Warrant DON'T OPEN YOUR DOOR! - 1st 48 seconds of the 2.5 min. YouTube video This is an excerpt from an Albuquerque News report with video at the link site on "Sneak and Peek" Warrants Let Agents Enter Homes Without Owner Knowing POSTED: 7:53 am MDT May 17, 2011 UPDATED: 8:06 am MDT May 18, 2011 ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. -- A special type of government search warrant that allows authorities to search homes without informing the owner for months is becoming more common, Target 7 has learned. Imagine someone walking through your neighborhood, coming into your home and rifling through your intimate belongings. “(They) search through your home, your dresser drawers, your computer files,” Peter Simonson, with ACLU New Mexico, said. These search warrants don’t involve knocking on doors or any type of warning at all. Delayed-notice search warrants, or "sneak-and-peek" warrants, allow federal agents to enter your home without telling you they’ve been there until months later. The warrants have always been around, but their use has spiked since the War on Terror and revamped Patriot Act was signed in 2005. The number of delayed- notice search warrants spiked nationally from nearly 700 in fiscal year 2007 to approaching close to 2,000 in 2009. ____ Edit to embed FOX videos that wouldn't post previously + a YouTube link for the approx. 2 min. NM news video below (embedding disabled): Sneak-And-Peek Warrants A Privacy Concern, Residents Say -- koattv
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Hopefully a lot of them get killed. This crap has got to stop. Fix booby traps in your home if you have to every time you leave. These bastards should die and die fast.
God is always good!
Seems pretty cut and dry, no? Ah, but the courts main mandate is to collect revenue for the feds. You can be innocent, but you still have to pay the fine.
__________________________________________________ With ignorance and confidence, success is certain. Mark Twain
FOX videos available for viewing now at post #4 and a YouTube link for the NM news report.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
You can be innocent, but you still have to pay the fine. Insightful post.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
You're welcome, Eric. This link is titled at Rense.com as Russian View of WWII and at YouTube as "Schweine" (Swine). I don't have a cartoonish, Sovietized view of WWII and I'm not posting it as an allusion to tyrannical LEO's. I know of some bad ones, certainly, but more who've impressed me as upstanding. I'm posting the video because it reminded me of your descriptions and those of some others here for the Jackbooted Thugs in general throughout the gummint who are powermad, profit-driven, and uncivilized.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
I've spoken with numerous people either becoming cops or thinking about it, and with one exception my only thought is may God help us. I have some faith that a sizable number of LEO's are Oath Keepers, officially or not -- even if they are in retirement, layed off, or have moved elsewhere in the workforce. Edited for spelling.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Seems pretty cut and dry, no? Yet, in summarizing the court’s opinion, Justice Steven David writes, “We hold that there is -no right- to reasonably resist unlawful entry by police officers.” well then quite frankly you have broken your oath to and bond with We The People. i say dispatch the fascist-traitor from the throne.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
They hate us because we're free.
Fantastic.
Fantastic. Super ...
“But when you want money for people with minds that hate, All I can tell you brother is that you have to wait.” The Beatles, Revolution, 1968
#2. To: Ada (#0)
#3. To: Ada (#0)
#4. To: Eric Stratton, *Jack-Booted Thugs* (#3)
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Does anyone know, is any of this making the Zionist controlled MSM? Faux sNooze, CNN, etc.?
Delayed-Notice Search Warrants Increasing
#5. To: GreyLmist (#4)
These search warrants don’t involve knocking on doors or any type of warning at all.
#6. To: Ada (#0)
The Court agreed that the police officers entered the Barnes home illegally. The Court further agreed that one’s right to resist illegal entry has existed since the Magna Carta. The Court further agreed that the US Supreme Court has reaffirmed this right to resist unlawful entry in numerous court cases.
#7. To: RickyJ (#5)
#8. To: angK (#6)
the courts main mandate is to collect revenue for the feds.
#9. To: GreyLmist (#4)
#10. To: Eric Stratton (#9)
Thank you
#11. To: GreyLmist (#10)
#12. To: Eric Stratton (#11)
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I have yet to meet an intelligent one of any that are under 35- 40. Most are dumber than a box o dried turds.
#13. To: Ada (#0)
The Court agreed that the police officers entered the Barnes home illegally. The Court further agreed that one’s right to resist illegal entry has existed since the Magna Carta. The Court further agreed that the US Supreme Court has reaffirmed this right to resist unlawful entry in numerous court cases.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#14. To: RickyJ (#5)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#15. To: GreyLmist (#12)
#16. To: Ada (#0)
"Satan / Cheney in "08" 
#17. To: noone222 (#1)
The Times of Munster reports that State Capitol Police say the communications are being reviewed as part of a criminal harassment investigation
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#18. To: tom007 (#17)
The Times of Munster reports that State Capitol Police say the communications are being reviewed as part of a criminal harassment investigation
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