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Title: Has Stephen Hawking Been Wrong For The Last 30 Years?
Source: openculture.com
URL Source: http://www.openculture.com/2007/03/has_stephen_haw.html
Published: May 17, 2011
Author: ?
Post Date: 2011-05-17 21:30:59 by Armadillo
Keywords: None
Views: 335
Comments: 33

With his cutting-edge research on black holes in the 1970s, Stephen Hawking emerged as a major player in the physics world. Then, with the 1988 publication of the bestseller, A Brief History of Time, Hawking achieved international celebrity status.

As this BBC presentation shows, Hawking’s fame might rest on weaker foundations than most could have imagined. Several important physicists, including Leonard Susskind here at Stanford (see our previous references to him), zeroed in on Hawking’s major contention that, when black holes disappear, they take along with them all information that ever existed inside them, which leads to the logical conclusion that there are clear limits to what scientists could ever know about black holes. After 20 years of debate, the Susskind camp seems to have won out, leaving Hawking’s legacy in question.

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Shhhhhh, dont tell the Hawking worshipers.

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#1. To: Armadillo (#0)

Shhhhhh, dont tell the Hawking worshipers.

Meaningless.

Science evolves throughout time and theories change as our understanding of the universe becomes somewhat more complete.

Flintlock  posted on  2011-05-17   21:36:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Flintlock (#1)

Science evolves throughout time and theories change as our understanding of the universe becomes somewhat more complete.

Well that's odd.
Religion does the same thing, changing and maturing as our understanding of God becomes more complete.
For some odd reason, unbelievers have no slack for... say, a mistake against Galileo, but plenty of slack for errors in "science".

Those who don't believe in God will believe anything.

Armadillo  posted on  2011-05-17   22:02:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Armadillo (#3)

Religion does the same thing, changing and maturing as our understanding of God becomes more complete.

That's absurd! God is ineffable. Our understanding of God is minute, if we have any understanding at all. As for religion maturing! Religion merely changes, as the expediency of the moment dictates.

angK  posted on  2011-05-18   1:45:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: angK (#11)

That's absurd! God is ineffable. Our understanding of God is minute, if we have any understanding at all.
First you say it's absurd, then you make a similar point as I did. Make up your mind.

As for religion maturing! Religion merely changes, as the expediency of the moment dictates.

Wrong. Crack open a Bible, read Acts, read a history book. You will see how religion changes and matures over time. Also, using modern techniques and archaeology to better understand ancient life and languages has allowed us to gain new insight into the Bible. Some of these insights can be seen in the NIV translation, where (much to the chagrin of KJV devotees) text is removed and/or altered to better reflect the original intent of the writing.

Armadillo  posted on  2011-05-18   2:50:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Armadillo (#13)

That's absurd! God is ineffable. Our understanding of God is minute, if we have any understanding at all.

"First you say it's absurd, then you make a similar point as I did. Make up your mind."

I'm hardly making the same point as you. You said, "as our understanding of God becomes more complete."

FURTHERMORE THIS PART OF YOUR COMMENT BEARS EXAMINATION

"Wrong. Crack open a Bible, read Acts, read a history book. You will see how religion changes and matures over time. Also, using modern techniques and archaeology to better understand ancient life and languages has allowed us to gain new insight into the Bible. Some of these insights can be seen in the NIV translation, where (much to the chagrin of KJV devotees) text is removed and/or altered to better reflect the original intent of the writing."

I HAVE CRACKED OPEN A BIBLE. I CAN'T QUOTE CHAPTER AND VERSE, BUT I KNOW THAT THE BIBLE SAYS THAT THE TEXT IS NOT TO BE ALTERED.

THE NIV TRANSLATION IS NOT A TRANSLATION IF TEXT IS REMOVED AND ALTERED AND WHO IS TO SAY WHAT THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE WRITING WAS. YOU ARE DECLARING AGAIN THAT WHATEVER YOUR RELIGION IS, YOU KNOW THE MIND OF GOD AND WHAT HE INTENDED!

I SAY THAT IS ABSURD!

angK  posted on  2011-05-18   3:26:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: angK (#14)

I believe this thread proves something, in somekinda way.

BTY YOU KNOW THE MIND OF GOD AND WHAT HE INTENDED!

tom007  posted on  2011-05-18   19:55:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#26. To: tom007 (#22)

BTY YOU KNOW THE MIND OF GOD AND WHAT HE INTENDED!

Thank you.

angK  posted on  2011-05-18 20:18:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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