Title: Atty., Dr. Herb Titus: Obama Not A Natural Born Citizen Source:
TheAmericanView.com URL Source:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmkmV5scHCQ Published:May 10, 2011 Author:BirtherReportDotCom Post Date:2011-05-19 02:48:01 by GreyLmist Keywords:Natural Born Citizenship, Constitution, Obama, Ineligibility Views:86 Comments:7
This is hard to comment on. I kept thinking that it explained BO's passion for immigration reform... The Dream Act. He must be aware that he is not a natural born citizen and an imposter in the White House.
It's true that he has divided loyalties. He is clearly his father's son and favours the blacks over the whites in every instance.
He supports the underdogs, unless they're white. He has a chip on his shoulder, regardless of where he was born, and he is hiding something. These are not good qualities for the POTUS.
This is hard to comment on. I kept thinking that it explained BO's passion for immigration reform... The Dream Act. He must be aware that he is not a natural born citizen and an imposter in the White House.
Thanks for your input. I agree that he most likely is aware that he is ineligible. As for Dream Act "immigration"/illegal migrant "reform", this is evidence that our Founders intended to deny American citizenship even when born to two American parents if the American father was never resident in the United States:
the THIRD CONGRESS in 1795 states, "...children of citizens [plural = both parents] of the United States...shall be considered citizens of the United States; Provided That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons, whose fathers have never been resident in the United States..." (THIRD CONGRESS Session II. Ch.21. 1795, Approved January 29, 1795, pp. 414-415.
Ex: If an American father was on diplomatic assignment abroad, or an American businessman who worked overseas, and his American wife gave birth there, the child could be considered an American citizen but not a natural born American citizen. If that child was a son who was raised abroad, met and married an American woman who went abroad, and they continued to live abroad until after they had a child, the child would not be considered an American citizen. Their child would be considered a citizen of the country where they were born.
Every condition of citizenship here except natural born citizenship by birth on American soil to two American parents is determined by intervention of law. Hence, there are even points in law to determine the age of an American parent and how long they lived in America before a birth to them abroad as to whether or not they are legally able to confer basic citizenship at all on their child, let alone natural born citizenship which has a much stricter criteria.
It is more than absurd for "immigration reformists" to sidestep the legal limits of American parents to confer American citizenship by descent, as if any foreigner and of any age should be able to come here as an illegal alien whenever they want to have basic American citizenship conferred on their offspring by our "government" -- like they and their babies are somehow more privileged automatically that way than an American parent who is expected to meet reasonable standards by law as checkpoints for qualification-clearance or not on the capacity to confer basic citizenship status at birth on a child of their own.
The State Department author, Leventhal, wrote "The Obama Birth Controversy" (which is no longer accessible at America.gov) and in it reportedly referenced this FactCheck.org info posted August 29, 2008 (which is still accessible for verification):
A: No. He held both U.S. and Kenyan citizenship as a child, but lost his Kenyan citizenship automatically on his 23rd birthday.
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at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.
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given that Obama qualified for citizen of the UKC status at birth and given that Obama's father became a Kenyan citizen via subsection (1), it follows that Obama did in fact have Kenyan citizenship after 1963.
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the Kenyan Constitution prohibits dual citizenship for adults. Kenya recognizes dual citizenship for children, but Kenya's Constitution specifies that at age 23, Kenyan citizens who possesses citizenship in more than one country automatically lose their Kenyan citizenship unless they formally renounce any non-Kenyan citizenship and swear an oath of allegiance to Kenya.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1984.
Corrected (Sep. 3, 2009): Our original article incorrectly stated that then- Sen. Obama lost his Kenyan citizenship on Aug. 4, 1982. The correct date is Aug. 4, 1984. The Kenyan Constitution required Obama to choose whether to keep either his U.S. or Kenyan citizenship upon his 21st birthday, which was in 1982. But we initially missed that the Constitution provided him a two-year window for making that choice. So Obama did not lose his Kenyan citizenship until his 23rd birthday in 1984. We have updated the item to reflect this.
- Joe Miller
Obama could not be a dual citizen at birth and also a natural born citizen of America. Nor does Congress have the authority to simply declare by law/act/resolution or Amendment whatever they want the term natural born citizen to mean. Additionally, ex post facto law as an attempt to attach the term to Obama retroactively, like they wrongfully did with McCain, is not allowed by the Constitution.
This is a reminder for Shoonra and company that the original "birthers" were largely Democrats back when the issue was McCain's citizenship status.