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Title: Atty., Dr. Herb Titus: Obama Not A Natural Born Citizen
Source: TheAmericanView.com
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmkmV5scHCQ
Published: May 10, 2011
Author: BirtherReportDotCom
Post Date: 2011-05-19 02:48:01 by GreyLmist
Keywords: Natural Born Citizenship, Constitution, Obama, Ineligibility
Views: 85
Comments: 7

Uploaded by BirtherReportDotCom on May 10, 2011

LINKS: Attorney, Dr. Herbert Titus interview with theAmericanView.com: Obama is not a "natural born Citizen" of the United States; Herbert W. Titus is of counsel to the law firm of William J. Olson, P.C. Prior to his association with this firm, Mr. Titus taught constitutional law, common law, and other subjects for nearly 30 years at five different American Bar Association approved law schools. From 1986 to 1993, he served as the founding Dean of the College of Law and Government in Regent University, Virginia Beach, Virginia. Prior to his academic career, he served as a Trial Attorney and a Special Assistant United States Attorney with the United States Department of Justice in Washington, D.C. and Kansas City, Missouri. Today he is engaged in a general practice with a concentration in constitutional strategy, litigation, and appeals.

Mr. Titus holds the J.D. degree (cum laude) from Harvard and the B.S. degree in Political Science from the University of Oregon from which he graduated Phi Beta Kappa. He is an active member of the bar of Virginia and an inactive member of the bar of Oregon. He is admitted to practice before the United States Supreme Court, the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, the United States Court of Claims, and the United States Courts of Appeals for the Sixth, Seventh, Ninth, Tenth, District of Columbia and Federal Circuits. His constitutional practice has taken him into federal district courts in Alabama, Arizona, Georgia, Montana, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas, Wyoming, and the District of Columbia and the state courts of Idaho, Texas and North Dakota.

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#1. To: GreyLmist (#0)

This is hard to comment on. I kept thinking that it explained BO's passion for immigration reform... The Dream Act. He must be aware that he is not a natural born citizen and an imposter in the White House.

It's true that he has divided loyalties. He is clearly his father's son and favours the blacks over the whites in every instance.

He supports the underdogs, unless they're white. He has a chip on his shoulder, regardless of where he was born, and he is hiding something. These are not good qualities for the POTUS.

angK  posted on  2011-05-19   4:32:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: angK (#1) (Edited)

This is hard to comment on. I kept thinking that it explained BO's passion for immigration reform... The Dream Act. He must be aware that he is not a natural born citizen and an imposter in the White House.

Thanks for your input. I agree that he most likely is aware that he is ineligible. As for Dream Act "immigration"/illegal migrant "reform", this is evidence that our Founders intended to deny American citizenship even when born to two American parents if the American father was never resident in the United States:

Natural Born Citizen Defined

the THIRD CONGRESS in 1795 states, "...children of citizens [plural = both parents] of the United States...shall be considered citizens of the United States; Provided That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons, whose fathers have never been resident in the United States..." (THIRD CONGRESS Session II. Ch.21. 1795, Approved January 29, 1795, pp. 414-415.

Ex: If an American father was on diplomatic assignment abroad, or an American businessman who worked overseas, and his American wife gave birth there, the child could be considered an American citizen but not a natural born American citizen. If that child was a son who was raised abroad, met and married an American woman who went abroad, and they continued to live abroad until after they had a child, the child would not be considered an American citizen. Their child would be considered a citizen of the country where they were born.

Every condition of citizenship here except natural born citizenship by birth on American soil to two American parents is determined by intervention of law. Hence, there are even points in law to determine the age of an American parent and how long they lived in America before a birth to them abroad as to whether or not they are legally able to confer basic citizenship at all on their child, let alone natural born citizenship which has a much stricter criteria.

It is more than absurd for "immigration reformists" to sidestep the legal limits of American parents to confer American citizenship by descent, as if any foreigner and of any age should be able to come here as an illegal alien whenever they want to have basic American citizenship conferred on their offspring by our "government" -- like they and their babies are somehow more privileged automatically that way than an American parent who is expected to meet reasonable standards by law as checkpoints for qualification-clearance or not on the capacity to confer basic citizenship status at birth on a child of their own.

Edited for last paragraph punctuation.

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-05-19   11:06:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: angK, All (#2)

Comments at the Volokh Conspiray on Natural Born Citizen Law relevant to the illegal migrant Dream Act issue:

I remember reading a case once of a young woman who had lived her entire life in Texas. She married a Mexican guy, then their kid was born while she was on vacation in Mexico visiting her husband's parents. The kid was held not a citizen because the mother was only 18, too young to have lived in the U.S. for five years after her fourteenth birthday.

Well, it's an easy path to naturalization for such a person, so except for the fact that said person would be ineligible to become president, is it really so "unjust"?

I'd say that it isn't unjust. I think the Founding Fathers intended to motivate Americans not to go warring abroad or on other excursions by choice outside of America if they want their child to be born potentially eligible for the Presidency, providing that at the age of 35 years or more their offspring can also meet the Constitutional requirement of no less than 14 years as a resident within the United States.

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-05-19   18:31:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: GreyLmist, 4 (#4)

FWITW - Mrs.L was born in Australia while her American citizen parents were stationed there while he served in the USAF.

She had dual-citizenship until she was 18, when she had to choose which country...shockingly, she chose the USA.

This birther problem is not at all as difficult as it's being made to be.

Lod  posted on  2011-05-19   18:40:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Lod (#5)

FWITW - Mrs.L was born in Australia while her American citizen parents were stationed there while he served in the USAF.

She had dual-citizenship until she was 18, when she had to choose which country...shockingly, she chose the USA.

I'm so glad to hear that she picked the US of A. :) Understandable if she might have to think it over a bit more under the circumstances these days.

This birther problem is not at all as difficult as it's being made to be.

I agree. Meanwhile, the default is that laws passed by Congress are not signable by an imposter President as valid. No authorizations at that level are valid without the Constitutionally required credentials, regardless of how many approve of Obama being used as he is to try and globalize America's office of President.

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