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Title: Romans 13:1-7
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Published: May 20, 2011
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Post Date: 2011-05-20 00:13:29 by RickyJ
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These are some of my thoughts on Romans 13: 1-7

If you think I am wrong about this please let me know how I am wrong. I have a sick feeling many ministers in America have on purpose been misleading their congregations into believing Christians should obey their government.

I have always thought Romans 13 could not have been talking about civil governments because to do so would contradict many other scriptures in the New Testament.

I still believe this to be the case despite the widely taught and held belief that Romans 13: 1-7 is talking about submission to secular governments. What is actually being commanded here by Paul is submission to higher authorities, most think this means secular governments, but that is not what this verse is saying.

Submission to higher authorities for a Christian would be leaders in the church, deacons, elders, and the apostles. It also of course means submission to Jesus Christ, the highest authority of them all.

It does not mean civil secular governments who have no scriptural authority over the church of Jesus Christ. The first century church did not submit to any secular government beyond paying taxes. As Jesus commanded us to render unto Ceaser the things that are Ceaser's and to God the things that are God's. Paul himself was tortured by the Roman government for disobeying them. Paul wrote this letter to Christians in Rome and they knew he was tortured and imprisoned by the Roman government for disobeying them. No one that he wrote this letter would have for a second believed he was talking about submitting to them!

Obviously the "higher authority" that Paul is referring to in Romans 13:1 is not the Roman government or any civil government on Earth.

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#32. To: RickyJ (#0)

I have always thought Romans 13 could not have been talking about civil governments because to do so would contradict many other scriptures in the New Testament

Having survived the rapture, it is my opinion your interpretation is correct.

Simply put, I don't believe Christians are bound to obey and support the manmade governments of this world. During my lifetime, I have witnessed so many churches go from that interpretation to one where they teach you are to obey the government. Perhaps they are now using the "Living Bible", which, in my opinion, was written by a government man, not a Christian!

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#34. To: Phant2000 (#32)

Simply put, I don't believe Christians are bound to obey and support the manmade governments of this world. During my lifetime, I have witnessed so many churches go from that interpretation to one where they teach you are to obey the government.

This is interesting. When did churches teach that Romans 13:1-7 was talking about a spiritual government and not a man made one? I have never heard them say it is talking about anything but man made government.

To me it is clear the apostles and Jesus resisted unto death the "authority" of these man made governments. For Paul then to write that these people are "not a terror to good works", would of course be insane. I don't think Paul was insane, I think these verse have been misinterpreted and/or mistranslated on purpose.

Scripture is not suppose to contradict other scripture and in Acts we are told to obey God rather than men.

RickyJ  posted on  2011-05-21   22:56:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: RickyJ (#34)

To me it is clear the apostles and Jesus resisted unto death the "authority" of these man made governments.

The statement made in the Bible is that they are to obey God rather than men. If what men order is not in opposition to the mandates of God, then the men, placed in places of authority by the Christ Jesus, are to be obeyed. This is clear in the Bible, as neither the Christ nor the apostles ever advocated fighting or rebellion. If, however, man's governments order us to stop preaching the Good News of the Kingdom of God, they are to be peacefully resisted.

The Christ, and each of the early diciples of his who were killed, were all killed for preaching as they were ordered to. NONE of them resisted other than peacefully.

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