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Title: Romans 13:1-7
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Published: May 20, 2011
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Post Date: 2011-05-20 00:13:29 by RickyJ
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These are some of my thoughts on Romans 13: 1-7

If you think I am wrong about this please let me know how I am wrong. I have a sick feeling many ministers in America have on purpose been misleading their congregations into believing Christians should obey their government.

I have always thought Romans 13 could not have been talking about civil governments because to do so would contradict many other scriptures in the New Testament.

I still believe this to be the case despite the widely taught and held belief that Romans 13: 1-7 is talking about submission to secular governments. What is actually being commanded here by Paul is submission to higher authorities, most think this means secular governments, but that is not what this verse is saying.

Submission to higher authorities for a Christian would be leaders in the church, deacons, elders, and the apostles. It also of course means submission to Jesus Christ, the highest authority of them all.

It does not mean civil secular governments who have no scriptural authority over the church of Jesus Christ. The first century church did not submit to any secular government beyond paying taxes. As Jesus commanded us to render unto Ceaser the things that are Ceaser's and to God the things that are God's. Paul himself was tortured by the Roman government for disobeying them. Paul wrote this letter to Christians in Rome and they knew he was tortured and imprisoned by the Roman government for disobeying them. No one that he wrote this letter would have for a second believed he was talking about submitting to them!

Obviously the "higher authority" that Paul is referring to in Romans 13:1 is not the Roman government or any civil government on Earth.

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I want to thank everyone for their feedback on this topic.

I could be wrong but I don't think I am about the true meaning of Romans 13:1-7.

Anyways I am going to email this to people in my church, including the preacher who recently preached about Romans 13:1-7 saying that it means obey civil governments.

RickyJ  posted on  2011-05-20   12:40:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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The Israelite Mid-wives disobeyed the Pharoah's order to kill the male babies ... Nehemiah, faced with the same situation as we are today, raised a mob and went before the authorities and demanded they return everything that'd been stolen from the people through taxation. [See Nehemiah 5]

Nehemiah 5 And there was a great cry of the people and of their wives against their brethren the Jews. For there were that said, We, our sons, and our daughters, are many: therefore we take up corn for them, that we may eat, and live. Some also there were that said, We have mortgaged our lands, vineyards, and houses, that we might buy corn, because of the dearth. There were also that said, We have borrowed money for the king's tribute, and that upon our lands and vineyards. Yet now our flesh is as the flesh of our brethren, our children as their children: and, lo, we bring into bondage our sons and our daughters to be servants, and some of our daughters are brought unto bondage already: neither is it in our power to redeem them; for other men have our lands and vineyards.

6 And I was very angry when I heard their cry and these words. Then I consulted with myself, and I rebuked the nobles, and the rulers, and said unto them, Ye exact usury, every one of his brother. And I set a great assembly against them. And I said unto them, We after our ability have redeemed our brethren the Jews, which were sold unto the heathen; and will ye even sell your brethren? or shall they be sold unto us? Then held they their peace, and found nothing to answer. Also I said, It is not good that ye do: ought ye not to walk in the fear of our God because of the reproach of the heathen our enemies? I likewise, and my brethren, and my servants, might exact of them money and corn: I pray you, let us leave off this usury. Restore, I pray you, to them, even this day, their lands, their vineyards, their oliveyards, and their houses, also the hundredth part of the money, and of the corn, the wine, and the oil, that ye exact of them. Then said they, We will restore them, and will require nothing of them; so will we do as thou sayest. Then I called the priests, and took an oath of them, that they should do according to this promise. Also I shook my lap, and said, So God shake out every man from his house, and from his labour, that performeth not this promise, even thus be he shaken out, and emptied. And all the congregation said, Amen, and praised the Lord. And the people did according to this promise.

noone222  posted on  2011-05-20 12:56:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Anyways I am going to email this to people in my church, including the preacher who recently preached about Romans 13:1-7 saying that it means obey civil governments.

I am sure your preacher means well--I think most of them do. And while I am far from being a Bible scholar the Bible has to be read and understood in context. You can take anything from the Bible out of context and make it say whatever you want it to say.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-05-20 13:07:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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