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Title: Bruce Lipton - Where Mind and Matter Meet (Fascinating)
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Published: May 30, 2011
Author: Bruce Lipton
Post Date: 2011-05-30 14:57:11 by christine
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#2. To: christine (#0) (Edited)

A comment by Eric Stratton on another thread really struck me in conjunction with this thread. Along with the positive power of prayer, Lipton also makes reference to the negative energy of hateful thoughts and how they affect their targets.

See the thread: freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=133913 and ES's comment re: the jews:

ERIC STRATTON QUOTED IN FULL IN ORDER TO AVOID TAKING ANYTHING OUT OF CONTEXT:

"I don't think anyone blames the masses for anything. It was the masses, not the Jewish leadership that did that.

Look at the sheople in this country, the non-Jewish sheople, every bit as complicit as to what's going on as those were back then. It takes a wise and special thinker to not be among the sheople, that wisdom comes from God/Jesus, but it is also freely given to them by Him, ... upon their asking.

Ergo, it is rational to assume that most simply do not ask, seek, attempt to learn and enlighten themselves. Don't know what to say about that particularly, but it's not a raving endorsement of morality no matter how you slice it. In fact, in this country and no doubt elsewhere, what people trade that wisdom for is astonishing, the very things that Jesus said not to focus on. IMO the contingent calling themselves "christian" in our country are bringing on judgement faster than any other group out there today.

IMO there is no question whatsoever that those calling themselves Jews yet who are not Jews are the antichrist and antichrist system. Either way, what is being done in the name of those that via whom the nation of Israel was spawned, is absolutely nothing short of antichrist/evil in its purest form.

When one considers Eph. 6:12, ...

12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

... coupled with much else in Scripture, such as how all but every (never say never and quite perhaps every) reference in the New Testament that contains the word "Jew(s)" (except for simply stating that a person was one et al.) involves them trying to kill, arrest, or otherwise bring some kind of harm or falsely accuse someone. Then couple that with Jesus' mention of The Synagogue (not church or any other reference) of Satan, and the picture clears up rather interestingly.

Now I could be wrong, but I don't think so."

ODDLY SIMILAR TO LIPTON'S DOCUMENTARY, BUT MORE SUCCINCT.

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#4. To: Eric Stratton (#3) (Edited)

ODDLY SIMILAR TO LIPTON'S DOCUMENTARY, BUT MORE SUCCINCT. Was I succinct enough to earn a waiver from spending 2 1/2 hours watching it? LOL

Sorry ES, No get out of jail free card for you. First,I must blushingly explain that

"It is vital to understand that there is no truth without discernment and no wisdom without the truth. What then is “faith” but an effort to confound truth and wisdom?"

is my tag line. I have not yet discovered how to get it into italics. :(

Second, the documentary is a long erudite explanation of how and why a "new finding, 9 years ago," proves that DNA is not the blueprint for life. We are not the victims of Newtonian Physics, genes or Darwinian Evolution. Lipton "proves" through Quantum physics and other recent studies of atoms, that our physiology and biology are directly affected by our environment and our beliefs. He maintains to put it simply that life is protein movement and has shown that if you remove the nucleus(the brain)from a cell, it continues to live, ERGO, the nucleus is not the brain of the cell, as previously believed, but the membrane is.

All this takes up most of the two hours of the documentary and I am probably explaining it poorly.

Since our beliefs and environment so profoundly effect our destiny and health, he believes that they have the power to alter our DNA, for good or ill.

He also maintains that our thoughts are energy that spread out into the environment for good or ill, and are received from outside the body as well. You're identity also exists outside the body. ( The God Essence?) The power of prayer and hate have the ability to influence the environment according to their characteristics of good and evil.

This is why I connected with your post on, if I remember correctly at this point, morality and beliefs, if the sheeple were willing to accept what God would freely give them.

Also your point re: the anti-Christ, which is pure evil, and how it has affected this world.

Your most telling quote was:

"12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places"

REMARKABLY SIMILAR, NO?

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#11. To: Eric Stratton (#7)

If so, I would say indirect similarity, but I'm not seeing a direct one. Am I missing something?

IMO, this guy has scientifically proven profound spiritual principles found in the bible. In fact, he may have proven that there is a God, and an Anti-Christ (for want of better words.) If WE, if our IDENTITY, if our THOUGHTS, if indeed our very MINDS exist outside the body, where do these things exist, if not in the minds of God and the Anti-Christ? A Universal mind, so to speak.

He has furthermore theorized that it is a two-way street. Our thoughts received from the Universal mind (my term), are influenced by our beliefs, and our environment, and our experiences. They are then sent back into the Universal mind, for better or worse.

Therefore, where you have evil forces fighting good forces, it is not a physical struggle, but one that takes place on the spiritual plane, which in turn influences the thoughts we receive. This explains the power of prayer and hate, and may explain why, aside from profit and greed, the Zionists foment hate and war.

I have taken many poetic liberties in this explanation, but the Documentary spent 2 hrs of proof, and just a few minutes of results. I have developed many assumptions based on those few minutes.

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#13. To: Eric Stratton (#12)

It does sound interesting. Sounds like one could spend a lifetime studying this topic alone, eh.

Indeed, I have just been listening to some more video's of Lipton on youtube. Unfortunately, He went over the scientific data and did not expand on his spiritual conclusions. It is obvious, though, that he has undergone a profound spiritual revelation through his studies.

What I have called "the Universal Mind," is what he refers to as the "Devine Matrix." Much better!

He admits his conclusions are rather new agey, but as they are based on scientific fact, he makes no apology for that. His main thrust is in applying his studies towards healing. If our perception of the environment, -i.e.- our beliefs can change our genes, usually for the worse causing illness, then by changing our beliefs in a positive way, he believes we can change our genes back to a healthy state, thus curing the illness.

It is my opinion that we can cure the world in a similar way, as he states we are part of the Devine Matrix, not single entities, but part of a spiritual community which is under attack, by evil forces.

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#15. To: Eric Stratton (#14)

I agree that there's a lot to it, but it's also important to realize that even so people live only so long and to not get caught up in life here v. life hereafter, eh

Nevertheless, eh

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