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Title: Pentagon doesn't rule out military force against cyberattacks
Source: cnn.com
URL Source: http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/05/31/military.cyberattack/index.html
Published: Jun 1, 2011
Author: Larry Shaughnessy
Post Date: 2011-06-01 06:10:26 by Ferret
Keywords: None
Views: 100
Comments: 7

Washington (CNN) -- The Pentagon is formulating a new strategy on how to respond to cyberattacks that would include using military force, a spokesman confirmed late Tuesday.

Col. David Lapan said if the attack is serious enough, "a response to a cyberincident or attack on the U.S. would not necessarily be a cyber response, so as I said all appropriate options would be on the table."

The final public portion of the "Defense Strategy for Operating in Cyberspace" is expected to be released in two or three weeks.

But much of it has already been discussed for months by numerous administration officials, including the White House and Deputy Secretary of Defense William Lynn.

In May, the White House released the International Strategy for Cyberspace. It said in part, "We reserve the right to use all necessary means -- diplomatic, informational, military, and economic -- as appropriate and consistent with applicable international law, in order to defend our Nation, our allies, our partners, and our interests."

The White House hopes this policy will act to discourage cyberattackers. "There is certainly the deterrent effect of letting our adversaries know how we would consider those actions and what steps we might take," Lapan said.

The Defense Department's appreciation of the serious threat posed by cyberattacks grew substantially after an incident in 2008. That's when someone inserted an infected flash drive (what some call thumb drives) into a U.S. military laptop on a base in the Middle East.

"The flash drive's malicious computer code, placed there by a foreign intelligence agency, uploaded itself onto a network run by the U.S. Central Command. That code spread undetected on both classified and unclassified systems," Lynn wrote last fall in Foreign Policy magazine. "This previously classified incident was the most significant breach of U.S. military computers ever, and it served as an important wake-up call."

According to Lynn's article, the code on that flash drive "spread undetected on both classified and unclassified systems, establishing what amounted to a digital beachhead, from which data could be transferred to servers under foreign control."

But Lynn admits one of the more difficult hurdles facing anyone trying to respond to cyberattacks is figuring out who the attacker is.

"Whereas a missile comes with a return address, a computer virus generally does not. The forensic work necessary to identify an attacker may take months, if identification is possible at all," Lynn wrote. "And even when the attacker is identified, if it is a nonstate actor, such as a terrorist group, it may have no assets against which the United States can retaliate."

The Pentagon policy is part of the larger White House plan, but it will not include specifics as to what responses might be triggered by certain levels of cyberattacks.

"We're not going to necessarily lay out if this happens we will do this, because again the point is, if we are attacked we reserve the right to do any number of things in response just like we do now with kinetic attack," Lapan said. "So it makes the idea that attacks in cyber would be viewed in a way that attacks in a kinetic form are now, the military option is always a resort."

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#1. To: Ferret (#0)

Most Cyberattacks come out of Communist China. You know ... the ones who own us ...

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2011-06-01   7:40:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#1)

The Pentagon believes the most sophisticated computer attacks need the resources of a government. For example, the weapons used in a major technological assault, such as taking down a power grid, would likely have been developed with state support.

And there was a well corrodinated and syphisticated attack on the Pentagon in 2008, which thet feel came from Russia.

The Rules of Armed Conflict which are guidelines for traditional wars are derived from a series of international treaties.

Things like the Geneva Conventions and practices that the U.S. and other nations consider customary international law don't cover cyber warfare.

They claim to want a consensus among allies about how to proceed. But no doubt this will translate to an attack on much of the freedoms we all enjoy on the Internet toay.

"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"

Ferret  posted on  2011-06-01   7:53:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ferret (#2)

The Rules of Armed Conflict which are guidelines for traditional wars are derived from a series of international treaties.

Things like the Geneva Conventions and practices that the U.S. and other nations consider customary international law don't cover cyber warfare.

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Uh ... I know you've been paying attention.

Future wars with captured Americans can kiss the GC goodbye.

Iraq has ruined us.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2011-06-01   8:16:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#3) (Edited)

No worries. If we want to emmulate the Israelis way of using us to fight war by proxy, we will extend our economic exploitation of Latin America and develop our own fighting dupes to use much as the Israelis have used us.

That is, if Israel allows us to. And I bet if they could copy right the tactical practice, no doubt they would give a thumbs up and charge us large royalties to engage in the practice of fighting our wars with willing military sock puppets.

Complete with IDF trainers teaching all th nuances of the proper way to torture civilians.

"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"

Ferret  posted on  2011-06-01   8:29:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ferret (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-06-01   8:33:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Eric Stratton (#5)

Come on Eric, you don't expect them to build all those detainment camps, contracted for new prisoner rail cars and conduct training exercises in surprise attack sweeps of 'trouble makers' and not look get their money's worth for this do you?

One thing about the people who developed the doctrine to deal with pacifying our population you can be sure of; it they didn't intend to go there, they wouldn't have gone to all this trouble. And if they had nothing to hide, they wouldn't be so hush hush about it either.

"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"

Ferret  posted on  2011-06-01   8:52:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ferret, *US INDUSTRIAL WAR MACHINE* (#4)

That is, if Israel allows us to. And I bet if they could copy right the tactical practice, no doubt they would give a thumbs up and charge us large royalties to engage in the practice of fighting our wars with willing military sock puppets.

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January 31, 2008

Truly, America is my favorite slave

Kingfahd "I summon my blue-eyed slaves anytime it pleases me. I command the Americans to send me their bravest soldiers to die for me. Anytime I clap my hands a stupid genie called the American ambassador appears to do my bidding. When the Americans die in my service their bodies are frozen in metal boxes by the US Embassy and American airplanes carry them away, as if they never existed. Truly, America is my favorite slave." King Fahd Bin Abdul-Aziz, Jeddeh 1993 (from Michael, via email)

The above quote is from 1993. The following article is from two months ago:

Ex-Saudi ambassador: Kingdom could have helped U.S. prevent 9/11

Princebandar (CNN) -- Saudi Arabia could have helped the United States prevent al Qaeda's 2001 attacks on New York and Washington if American officials had consulted Saudi authorities in a "credible" way, the kingdom's former ambassador said in a documentary aired Thursday.

The comments by Prince Bandar bin Sultan are similar to the remarks this week by Saudi King Abdullah that suggested Britain could have prevented the July 2005 train bombings in London if it had heeded warnings from Riyadh.

Speaking to the Arabic satellite network Al-Arabiya on Thursday, Bandar -- now Abdullah's national security adviser -- said Saudi intelligence was "actively following" most of the September 11, 2001, plotters "with precision."

"If U.S. security authorities had engaged their Saudi counterparts in a serious and credible manner, in my opinion, we would have avoided what happened," he said.

Bandar was the Saudi ambassador to Washington for nearly 22 years before he was replaced in 2005. A knowledgeable U.S. official told CNN that Bandar's comments should be taken "with a grain of salt."

On Monday, Abdullah told the BBC that Saudi Arabia had sent warnings to British authorities before the London subway bombings that killed 52 people -- the city's bloodiest day since World War II.

"We have sent information to Great Britain before the terrorist attacks in Britain," Abdullah said. "But unfortunately, no action was taken, and it may have been able to avert the tragedy."

The September 11 attacks killed nearly 3,000 people in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania. All but four of the suicide hijackers who carried out the plot were Saudi nationals, and after the attacks, the kingdom was widely criticized for having tolerated Islamic militancy.

The Saudis have called the criticism unfair, pointing out that al Qaeda founder Osama bin Laden's original grievance was against the country's ruling family, which invited U.S. troops into the kingdom after the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in 1990.
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A string of attacks on Western compounds, oil installations and Saudi institutions between 2003 and 2006 were blamed on al Qaeda's followers.

And Saudi officials say that since 9/11, they have taken steps to ensure charitable donations do not fall into the hands of al Qaeda.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

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