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Title: How openminded are you? Have you had a change of heart on any major issue lately?
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Published: Oct 16, 2005
Author: Christine
Post Date: 2005-10-16 10:44:15 by christine
Keywords: openminded, lately?, change
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#85. To: A K A Stone (#78)
Read for yourself what the survivors have to say. http://ussliberty.org/ And if you've a mind to do your due diligence in this you will also find where one of the Israeli pilots broke off the attack when he realized the ship was American, and was court martialed for it later by the IDF. This pilot has recently visited the U.S. and apologized personally to the survivors. His story alone is proof that the attack was a premeditated war crime on a ship of the United States Navy in international waters. We should have bombed the hell out of them back then and the world would be better off today. The ONLY reason it was NOT done was because of TREASON at the highest levels. Even jets launched twice by the USS Saratoga were recalled both times, once on the direct orders of LBJ.
"Under every government the dernier resort of the people, is an appeal to the sword; whether to defend themselves against the open attacks of a foreign enemy, or to check the insidious encroachments of domestic foes. Whenever a people... entrust the defence of their country to a regular, standing army, composed of mercenaries, the power of that country will remain under the direction of the most wealthy citizens." Anonymous Framer of U.S. Constitution, Independent Gazetteer, January 29, 1791
I have to admit I've been feeling the same way about the Bible lately.
I believe all religions are man's feeble attempts to understand God, there's probably varying amounts of truth to all of them. I do believe in God but I believe God is something beyond our comprehension while our souls reside in our earthly bodies. I believe after we die our souls go on to another dimension.
Howard Storm's My Descent into Death is the best book I've ever read about what will happen to our souls.
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hey, diane, i didn't ping you because i thought you were off the net. good to see you here.
It's too bad you didn't hear Alex Jones' interview of the ship's doctor, whose name slips my mind at the moment, a few months ago. There is conclusive proof. LBJ's own words for one example, as a matter of fact.
Not so much issues, but political philosophies. I have been a registered Republican for 23 years. Before that, I was a Young Republican for three. In June of this year I changed my party affiliation to Independent because I felt my party left me. They are no longer the party of smaller, less intrusive government, but the party of drunken, irresponsible spending. My views have not changed one iota, the parties has.
After having done a bit of reflecting on the history of the party, I don't think it's changed. I think the GOP has always been about conserving their own wealth and power. I think what's changed is that they now have an administration who openly flaunts it and our eyes have been opened to it. Now, is there anything that you have learned about an issue that you previously had a very strong opinion about that has influenced you to change your mind? Btw, who is that creature in your tagline?
Well....we all know the KJV was given to old Moses on Mt. Sinai! LOL....
He's one of the zombie's from Indiana Jones. I figure I've been called a bot enough times that I should have fun with it. As for my opinions, none have changed. I am still staunchly against global welfare, illegal immigration, affirmative action, and government involvement in anything not enumerated in the Constitution. There might be some ancillary issues that I have changed on, but the major ones have not changed.
About the land........God said He owned all the land and that he was giving this area to the Israelites. But it didn't and doesn't stop there.....there was a wee little word attached to the POSSESSION of the land. That little word was IF. After the IF word, there were several others that suggested the Israelites had to conform to his commandments, statutes, and laws. For modern day christians to think they can help God shows their ignorance. He doesn't need anyones help....especially a bunch of busybodies who need to be looking in their own
I’ve begun burning bridges with folks who refuse to educate themselves on the important issues facing us. By remaining rigid to their positions, despite factual rebuttal, they become part of the problem. They have to be walked around and left behind, despite the relationship.
He's one of the zombie's from Indiana Jones. I figure I've been called a bot enough times that I should have fun with it. Uh... No it's not. It's Boris Karloff from THE MUMMY.
There is NO CONCLUSIVE proof that it was attacked intentionally. Maybe they did attack on purpose. It's still speculation.
#86. To: christine (#37)
I don't believe that the bible is the infallible word of God. I believe now that dubious men with political and selfish agendas commissioned the various works in order to control the little people.
#87. To: A K A Stone, christine (#46)
#88. To: Diana (#87)
I believe after we die our souls go on to another dimension.
#89. To: Jethro Tull, hmmmmm, timetobuildaboat, Esso, Eoghan, griper, Bub, Grumble Jones, Brian S, Burkeman1, secret_squirrel, Bayonne, Eoghan, TommyTheMadArtist, tom007, swarthyguy, MUDDOG, Soda Pop, HOUNDDAWG, Elliott Jackalope, mirage, Yertle Turtle, bluegrass (#0)
#90. To: Diana (#87)
#91. To: A K A Stone (#78)
#92. To: christine (#0)
#93. To: 82Marine89 (#92)
#94. To: lodwick (#43)
#95. To: christine (#93)
Btw, who is that creature in your tagline?
#96. To: A K A Stone (#52)
yardhearts and minds and definitely spending more time in the book actually discerning and learning what it says.
#97. To: christine (#93)
#98. To: 82Marine89 (#95)
Btw, who is that creature in your tagline?
 | So many morons, so few bullets. |
#99. To: 82Marine89 (#95)
| So many morons, so few bullets. |
#100. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#98)
Thank's for the correction, I was told he was a zombie. Either way, I like the pic.
#101. To: 82Marine89 (#100)
You gotta see the movie. He wasn't a zombie. That's Kharis. I promise, when you see the movie, all will become clear.
| So many morons, so few bullets. |
#102. To: christine (#0)
I thought I was a republican because I wanted a smaller fiscally responsible government. Ha. Haha. Hahaha. Hahaha! Hahaha!!! I never voted though because I was just one person and really didn't follow politics. Ha. Haha. Hahaha. Hahaha! Hahaha!!! Last fall I voted for the first time in my life at age 40. I may not have made a difference, but years from now I'll be able to say, "Wasn't me that did it." Mwu. Mwuha. Mwuhaha. Mwuhaha! Mwuhahaha!! I was a stock market bull and believed that gold and silver were barbaric metals up until last summer. 25 years of history can't be wrong. I always felt it was better to own a piece of the bank than put the money in the bank. All that changed. Suddenly I find myself stocking up on canned goods, water, and barbaric relics. Crap. Crap crap. Crap Crap! Crap crap crap!!! For 20 years I hadn't felt the need to own a gun. Last summer I bought a 1911 .45 and joined a local gun club. Holy. Holy cow. Holy frickin' cow. Holy frickin' cow!!! Is that enough major issues? ;)
How openminded are you? Have you had a change of heart on any major issue lately?
When prosperity comes, do not use all of it. - Confucious
The nation is prosperous on the whole, but how much prosperity is there in a hole? - Will Rogers
#103. To: markm0722 (#102)
Let's see, where do I start after your rant??? I read a book called "The Devil", a history of how the Devil came to be. Now I don't belive in The Devil, nor do I really follow the bible because I think it's a tool to destroy the world, along with every other Godforsaken organized religion. I don't belive in psychic phenomena, as I've seen far to many fucking frauds put up on TV as the real thing. Those of us who really ARE psychic should go into hiding, and use our collective powers for evil, just to get even. I thought that Windows XP would be the best thing for me to use on my home computer. I thought that George Bush was the better choice than either Gore or Kerry. I thought that my government would cease to be full of morons who wanted to take my rights away, but after 6 years of this clown, I'm even more paranoid. Living in Minneapolis for the last 4 years has made me an incredibly intolerant person, as I used to be able to suffer with the idiocy around me. I thought that I'd have a good economic future with the republicans in office. Now I couldn't be more wrong. I thought that illegal immigration would be a top priority after 19 illegal aliens brought down the twin towers, and part of the Pentagon. Jesus Christ... I don't believe anything anymore. Not even when I fucking see it happening, I still don't believe it.
| So many morons, so few bullets. |
#104. To: markm0722 (#102)
yep, that's enough. :P
#105. To: christine (#0)
Taking a stab at getting the thread back to your initial question.......and it isn't exactly an idea, but sort of fits. As you know, I was a strong supporter of Alan Keyes for years.......going back to before the liar in chief's wimpy daddy's attempted second term campaign. Back in those years of listening to and reading Alan, I saw someone who was principled and well versed in the constitution. At tos2 and fu, I was challenged on him based on my earlier feelings of support. I did have a difference with him regarding volunteer service being mandatory-- but at that point it was merely discussion. I'd never go for volunteerism that way. And I was on the fence regarding Michael New. I was 100% in feeling Michael was correct in not defacing his uniform with the un blue shit, and felt the military let him down badly. Worse, the administration did, too....they all bowed down to making our men international soldiers. Alan Keyes, being from a military family, kept saying soldiers have to follow orders. I agree that out on the battlefield, it is important to follow commands, to take out a gunnery nest, or whatever, and it lends to unit cohesion, blah, blah, blah......but I just wasn't convinced. The day my mind changed was when he had the tv program on msnbc, what was it, January 2003, when he and that scumbag dertyshits were all but doing liplock over using torture. There was no disagreement over using torture, just the reasoning behind it. I've had enough 'justifying' of evil under the guise of 'good' to last several lifetimes. While I can thank him for having shone the light on abortion, the constitution was only words in his glorified vocabulary. :(
#106. To: markm0722 (#102)
Ya saw the light, eh? BTW, good rant.
#107. To: markm0722 (#102)
Sounds like you have made alot of good progress.
For 20 years I hadn't felt the need to own a gun. Last summer I bought a 1911 .45 and joined a local gun club.
#108. To: Moldi_Box, Starwind, Mekons4, crack monkey, JHoffa_, orangedog, Critter, Pissed Off Janitor, Arete, purpleman, Critter, lightmind, Kamala, JRadcliffe, Zoroaster, Axenolith, aristeides, Arator (#0)
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#109. To: rowdee (#94)
Exactly. I see that you've met those of that persuasion, also. Either that, or it just magically appeared on Mr.Guetenberg's doorstep one morning. ID cheers up there, Dee.
Well....we all know the KJV was given to old Moses on Mt. Sinai!
#110. To: 82Marine89 (#95)
And here I thought that it was Michael Chertoff all this time...
He's one of the zombie's from Indiana Jones. I figure I've been called a bot enough times that I should have fun with it.
#111. To: rowdee (#105)
Ditto's for me with Buchanan.
Alan Keyes
#112. To: markm0722 (#102)
Crap. Crap crap. Crap Crap! Crap crap crap!!! For 20 years I hadn't felt the need to own a gun. Last summer I bought a 1911 .45 and joined a local gun club. Holy. Holy cow. Holy frickin' cow. Holy frickin' cow!!! Welcome & good job with it. (Continue to avoid the lycra, however.)
I was a stock market bull and believed that gold and silver were barbaric metals up until last summer. 25 years of history can't be wrong. I always felt it was better to own a piece of the bank than put the money in the bank. All that changed. Suddenly I find myself stocking up on canned goods, water, and barbaric relics.
#113. To: lodwick (#109)
Hey, you........did ya get to read those two others I did for you==I think on friday.
#114. To: lodwick (#110)
LOL! There is a sort of ghastly (or do I mean ghostly) resemblance.
And here I thought that it was Michael Chertoff all this time...
Death has a tendency to encourage a depressing view of war. – Donald Rumsfeld
#115. To: Jethro Tull (#111)
Certainly disappointments. I think they would a been better than anything picked, but sheet............
#116. To: robin, lodwick (#114)
LOL.........I don't have the tags set to be seen, so I haven't seen the avatar; however, the mere suggestion that it could be Chertoff is enough to make me shudder.
#117. To: rowdee (#105)
I liked him too for awhile. He gave good speeches, and at first, he did not appear to be part of the political machine.
While I can thank him for having shone the light on abortion, the constitution was only words in his glorified vocabulary. :(
Death has a tendency to encourage a depressing view of war. – Donald Rumsfeld
#118. To: christine (#0)
read my tagline
The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size
#119. To: rowdee (#113)
I know that I got one, and Friday's too far in the past for me to remember...;- ) I will go look however, and Thank You very much.
#120. To: rowdee (#116)
You should activate the tag thingie - there is good stuff there, and for me, it kinda personalizes the poster for me.
#121. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#118)
yep, tis true. ;)
#122. To: christine (#5)
Have I had a change of heart on any major issues? no, the war is still a crock, Bush is still insane, etc...etc....
The sooner you fall behind the more time you'll have to catch up
#123. To: christine (#0)
Hmm this is a hard one.. well maybe I've changed my mind on having extra marital affairs? :P
#124. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#122)
no, the war is still a crock, Bush is still insane, etc...etc.... How about wearing a peg leg? :P
Have I had a change of heart on any major issues?
#125. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#122)
how about a minor one? :P
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