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Title: How openminded are you? Have you had a change of heart on any major issue lately?
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Published: Oct 16, 2005
Author: Christine
Post Date: 2005-10-16 10:44:15 by christine
Keywords: openminded, lately?, change
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#97. To: christine (#93)
I’ve begun burning bridges with folks who refuse to educate themselves on the important issues facing us. By remaining rigid to their positions, despite factual rebuttal, they become part of the problem. They have to be walked around and left behind, despite the relationship.
He's one of the zombie's from Indiana Jones. I figure I've been called a bot enough times that I should have fun with it. Uh... No it's not. It's Boris Karloff from THE MUMMY.
#98. To: 82Marine89 (#95)
Btw, who is that creature in your tagline?
 | So many morons, so few bullets. |
#99. To: 82Marine89 (#95)
| So many morons, so few bullets. |
#100. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#98)
Thank's for the correction, I was told he was a zombie. Either way, I like the pic.
#101. To: 82Marine89 (#100)
You gotta see the movie. He wasn't a zombie. That's Kharis. I promise, when you see the movie, all will become clear.
| So many morons, so few bullets. |
#102. To: christine (#0)
I thought I was a republican because I wanted a smaller fiscally responsible government. Ha. Haha. Hahaha. Hahaha! Hahaha!!! I never voted though because I was just one person and really didn't follow politics. Ha. Haha. Hahaha. Hahaha! Hahaha!!! Last fall I voted for the first time in my life at age 40. I may not have made a difference, but years from now I'll be able to say, "Wasn't me that did it." Mwu. Mwuha. Mwuhaha. Mwuhaha! Mwuhahaha!! I was a stock market bull and believed that gold and silver were barbaric metals up until last summer. 25 years of history can't be wrong. I always felt it was better to own a piece of the bank than put the money in the bank. All that changed. Suddenly I find myself stocking up on canned goods, water, and barbaric relics. Crap. Crap crap. Crap Crap! Crap crap crap!!! For 20 years I hadn't felt the need to own a gun. Last summer I bought a 1911 .45 and joined a local gun club. Holy. Holy cow. Holy frickin' cow. Holy frickin' cow!!! Is that enough major issues? ;)
How openminded are you? Have you had a change of heart on any major issue lately?
When prosperity comes, do not use all of it. - Confucious
The nation is prosperous on the whole, but how much prosperity is there in a hole? - Will Rogers
#103. To: markm0722 (#102)
Let's see, where do I start after your rant??? I read a book called "The Devil", a history of how the Devil came to be. Now I don't belive in The Devil, nor do I really follow the bible because I think it's a tool to destroy the world, along with every other Godforsaken organized religion. I don't belive in psychic phenomena, as I've seen far to many fucking frauds put up on TV as the real thing. Those of us who really ARE psychic should go into hiding, and use our collective powers for evil, just to get even. I thought that Windows XP would be the best thing for me to use on my home computer. I thought that George Bush was the better choice than either Gore or Kerry. I thought that my government would cease to be full of morons who wanted to take my rights away, but after 6 years of this clown, I'm even more paranoid. Living in Minneapolis for the last 4 years has made me an incredibly intolerant person, as I used to be able to suffer with the idiocy around me. I thought that I'd have a good economic future with the republicans in office. Now I couldn't be more wrong. I thought that illegal immigration would be a top priority after 19 illegal aliens brought down the twin towers, and part of the Pentagon. Jesus Christ... I don't believe anything anymore. Not even when I fucking see it happening, I still don't believe it.
| So many morons, so few bullets. |
#104. To: markm0722 (#102)
yep, that's enough. :P
#105. To: christine (#0)
Taking a stab at getting the thread back to your initial question.......and it isn't exactly an idea, but sort of fits. As you know, I was a strong supporter of Alan Keyes for years.......going back to before the liar in chief's wimpy daddy's attempted second term campaign. Back in those years of listening to and reading Alan, I saw someone who was principled and well versed in the constitution. At tos2 and fu, I was challenged on him based on my earlier feelings of support. I did have a difference with him regarding volunteer service being mandatory-- but at that point it was merely discussion. I'd never go for volunteerism that way. And I was on the fence regarding Michael New. I was 100% in feeling Michael was correct in not defacing his uniform with the un blue shit, and felt the military let him down badly. Worse, the administration did, too....they all bowed down to making our men international soldiers. Alan Keyes, being from a military family, kept saying soldiers have to follow orders. I agree that out on the battlefield, it is important to follow commands, to take out a gunnery nest, or whatever, and it lends to unit cohesion, blah, blah, blah......but I just wasn't convinced. The day my mind changed was when he had the tv program on msnbc, what was it, January 2003, when he and that scumbag dertyshits were all but doing liplock over using torture. There was no disagreement over using torture, just the reasoning behind it. I've had enough 'justifying' of evil under the guise of 'good' to last several lifetimes. While I can thank him for having shone the light on abortion, the constitution was only words in his glorified vocabulary. :(
#106. To: markm0722 (#102)
Ya saw the light, eh? BTW, good rant.
#107. To: markm0722 (#102)
Sounds like you have made alot of good progress.
For 20 years I hadn't felt the need to own a gun. Last summer I bought a 1911 .45 and joined a local gun club.
#108. To: Moldi_Box, Starwind, Mekons4, crack monkey, JHoffa_, orangedog, Critter, Pissed Off Janitor, Arete, purpleman, Critter, lightmind, Kamala, JRadcliffe, Zoroaster, Axenolith, aristeides, Arator (#0)
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#109. To: rowdee (#94)
Exactly. I see that you've met those of that persuasion, also. Either that, or it just magically appeared on Mr.Guetenberg's doorstep one morning. ID cheers up there, Dee.
Well....we all know the KJV was given to old Moses on Mt. Sinai!
#110. To: 82Marine89 (#95)
And here I thought that it was Michael Chertoff all this time...
He's one of the zombie's from Indiana Jones. I figure I've been called a bot enough times that I should have fun with it.
#111. To: rowdee (#105)
Ditto's for me with Buchanan.
Alan Keyes
#112. To: markm0722 (#102)
Crap. Crap crap. Crap Crap! Crap crap crap!!! For 20 years I hadn't felt the need to own a gun. Last summer I bought a 1911 .45 and joined a local gun club. Holy. Holy cow. Holy frickin' cow. Holy frickin' cow!!! Welcome & good job with it. (Continue to avoid the lycra, however.)
I was a stock market bull and believed that gold and silver were barbaric metals up until last summer. 25 years of history can't be wrong. I always felt it was better to own a piece of the bank than put the money in the bank. All that changed. Suddenly I find myself stocking up on canned goods, water, and barbaric relics.
#113. To: lodwick (#109)
Hey, you........did ya get to read those two others I did for you==I think on friday.
#114. To: lodwick (#110)
LOL! There is a sort of ghastly (or do I mean ghostly) resemblance.
And here I thought that it was Michael Chertoff all this time...
Death has a tendency to encourage a depressing view of war. – Donald Rumsfeld
#115. To: Jethro Tull (#111)
Certainly disappointments. I think they would a been better than anything picked, but sheet............
#116. To: robin, lodwick (#114)
LOL.........I don't have the tags set to be seen, so I haven't seen the avatar; however, the mere suggestion that it could be Chertoff is enough to make me shudder.
#117. To: rowdee (#105)
I liked him too for awhile. He gave good speeches, and at first, he did not appear to be part of the political machine.
While I can thank him for having shone the light on abortion, the constitution was only words in his glorified vocabulary. :(
Death has a tendency to encourage a depressing view of war. – Donald Rumsfeld
#118. To: christine (#0)
read my tagline
The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size
#119. To: rowdee (#113)
I know that I got one, and Friday's too far in the past for me to remember...;- ) I will go look however, and Thank You very much.
#120. To: rowdee (#116)
You should activate the tag thingie - there is good stuff there, and for me, it kinda personalizes the poster for me.
#121. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#118)
yep, tis true. ;)
#122. To: christine (#5)
Have I had a change of heart on any major issues? no, the war is still a crock, Bush is still insane, etc...etc....
The sooner you fall behind the more time you'll have to catch up
#123. To: christine (#0)
Hmm this is a hard one.. well maybe I've changed my mind on having extra marital affairs? :P
#124. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#122)
no, the war is still a crock, Bush is still insane, etc...etc.... How about wearing a peg leg? :P
Have I had a change of heart on any major issues?
#125. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#122)
how about a minor one? :P
#126. To: christine (#0)
My opinion on Iraq has changed dramatically. I used to associate an anti-war stance with moral cowardice and knee jerk, anti-patriotism.. I realize now that I have more information available about our latest conflict, and after having done some reading into others from the past, that often the reverse is actually true. Are there people who would gleefully meet any occupying army on US soil with a white flag, regardless? Sure.. and I still hate them. But by the same token, there's reasoned dissent, also. It's moral. It's reflective What it's not reflexive and not the least bit indicative of a hatred for the Country or it's citizens.
BUSH: The man is practicing fuzzy math again. There's differences. Under Vice President Gore's plan, he is going to grow the federal government in the largest increase since Lyndon Baines Johnson in 1965.
#127. To: Jhoffa_ (#126)
here's one that i've changed on. i used to loathe all democrats. now i loathe all republicans. juuussss kidding. :P
#128. To: christine (#89)
Yeah! I changed my tag.
I long for the days when "Go fuck yourself!" wasn't the first thought my mind could conceive.
#129. To: Hmmmmm (#128)
lol. i know you won't be holding your breath.
#130. To: christine (#0)
I used to think I was just "misunderestimating" our president, but lately I've grown to realize "this is historic times" and "we're making steadfast progress."
When prosperity comes, do not use all of it. - Confucious
The nation is prosperous on the whole, but how much prosperity is there in a hole? - Will Rogers
#131. To: christine (#0)
I changed my mind about my vote for Bush over 6 months ago. I see now that I helped vote the wrong man in. Mostly though, I have had a change of heart about the church. More and more, I am seeing the churches move away from God and into the greedy, it's all about money mode. Granted, there are many truly good, God worshiping churches out there, but it seems alot of the churches are all about money and wanting to get into the politics of everything now. Things have really changed since I was a kid. We went to church for one thing, to worship our Lord and give thanks. Nowadays, people go to church for financial classes, to plan vacations and hunting trips, and to look good in their community. Seems the churches are worshiping everything but God these days!
Secure our borders, save our nation!
#132. To: christine, all (#71)
My other change is an ongoing one. I never felt at peace in the Southern Baptist church. Two years ago, a dear friend introduced me to the Eastern Orthodox Church and it was as if all at once, all of my questions had been answered. I am not Orthodox yet. Nor am I a Baptist any longer. This is not to bash Baptists or Methodists, etc., though I have probably done that a time or three. There are still many great people of faith these churches. But these churches do not answer questions for me.
#133. To: nc_girl_speaks_up (#131)
Come to Asheville sometime and I will treat you to -Or- Get this! We could go to see the Apostle Ron Carpenter preach at his church in Greenville (SC). Yes, and afterwards, take in some Starbucks Coffee in a genuine Starbucks establishment, inside the church! How about this one. One of the Rescue "missions" in Asheville is run by a great man of God. He uses the homeless to build his home(s), do yardwork and pay them less than minimum wage (if at all) to do the work. We can then go to one of the consignment shops to buy some clothes to pay for one of his fancy cars or boats or houses! Then there is my friend (youth pastor) near Columbia (SC) whose church barely makes ends meat, but was among the first to volunteer to take in refugees from New Orleans. They had no idea how they would do it; only that they felt like they should. In the end, they were not called upon to house people. There is another friend who pastors a church near Raleigh who is trying to walk a delicate balance between a congregation who is elderly and doesn't want to do much and a number of younger couples who want to DO. A pastor, friend and mentor from my college days who preaches near to me whose life's work is now focusing on and taking care of the baby boom generation: housing, care, spiritual needs, fun programs, etc. Another pastor who left the church my in-laws go to, to make a career change to do fundraising for a local (to him) Christian College. A great man. Humble, honest, peaceful giant of a man. Not the least bit dynamic personality wise- like you would expect from someone fundraising. Very quiet and a man of few words who has never done fundraising. He loves a good joke and smiles. I don't know how, but that college will be rolling in money. A former music minister at the church my wife and I used to go to. The man never said more than 10 words to anybody during his 5 years there. Somehow, the chior was always full. He played several instruments and always encouraged the kids to pick up and enjoy music. He was always the first to visit someone in the hospital, deliver food or prayer to a family in need. He would drop whatever he was doing in order to help someone at anytime without ever uttering one word of complaint.
Build-More!, er (there I go again), Biltmore Baptist church which counts its members by the thousands. The church features a cafe and coffee shop. Gyms, auditoriums. Its great! You can go there and have people do your thinking for you. Mind-numbed, thoughtless Christianity. Don't forget to wear your Sunday best and pull up in nothing less than a Benz', BMW, Hummer, Acura, Caddy, or at the very least, nothing less than 3 years old.
#134. To: christine (#89)
Over the last five years, my attitudes on darned near everything have undergone an almost complete reversal and/or re-evaluation. I worked on Reagan's campaign when I was kid. These days I won't work on anyone's political campaign because I discovered, after years of dealing with the absolute and total BS in California, that they're all scum and deserve to be run out of town. Local people around town? The Pubbies are turning into a pack of smug bible-thumpers who wish to personally damn anyone to eternity in an ez-bake oven who dares disagree with them while the Democrats are still "in mourning" over the last Presidential election and want to rule every single facet of my life. Both of them agree when the facts are presented to them that "this crap cannot go on" but then they turn around and do it anyhow. The last of the elder generation of my family is about to pass and my mom has already apologized to me for the mess I will be saddled with. How often does that happen? My cynicism level has reached new heights. I've discovered that I can trust people one-on-one but groups can't be trusted to figure out what they want for breakfast. In other words: Mirage is on his own and is discovering that he likes it.
bwahahaha....
#135. To: scooter (#133)
That's quite a melánge of preachers. Only those who have not sold their souls to worship Mammon are worth the time of day. Glad to see you've found out the Eastern Orthodox Church has survived the onslaught of the Bolsheviks. There is quite a revival of Christian doctrine in Russia now from what I hear from someone I exchange an email with now and then from over there. If you know anything at all about Fatima, you will know that the only way to defeat the current devilish paradigm is for the corrupt Roman Catholic Church to give way and recognize the Eastern Church to end the schism when the East and West split in 1054. The current occupant of the Vatican and the Holy See is a heretic of the worst sort.
"Under every government the dernier resort of the people, is an appeal to the sword; whether to defend themselves against the open attacks of a foreign enemy, or to check the insidious encroachments of domestic foes. Whenever a people... entrust the defence of their country to a regular, standing army, composed of mercenaries, the power of that country will remain under the direction of the most wealthy citizens." Anonymous Framer of U.S. Constitution, Independent Gazetteer, January 29, 1791
#136. To: mirage (#134)
You bring the tar and I'll bring the feathers. If you have a neighbor that is worthwhile, he can bring a fence rail and we'll have us a ball. LOL Hang in there. The tide always turns.
they're all scum and deserve to be run out of town.
Mirage is on his own and is discovering that he likes it.
"Under every government the dernier resort of the people, is an appeal to the sword; whether to defend themselves against the open attacks of a foreign enemy, or to check the insidious encroachments of domestic foes. Whenever a people... entrust the defence of their country to a regular, standing army, composed of mercenaries, the power of that country will remain under the direction of the most wealthy citizens." Anonymous Framer of U.S. Constitution, Independent Gazetteer, January 29, 1791
#137. To: nc_girl_speaks_up (#131)
Things have really changed since I was a kid. We went to church for one thing, to worship our Lord and give thanks. Nowadays, people go to church for financial classes, to plan vacations and hunting trips, and to look good in their community. Seems the churches are worshiping everything but God these days! The churches and pastors have all sold out for their 501(c)(3) tax exemption. They no longer worship God, but Mammon instead. "No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will hold to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon" (Matthew 6:24). The blind are truly leading the blind... and together they will all fall in the ditch. Good on ya that you see where they are headed so you don't join them. ;0) BTW, in the revolutionary era the British called the preachers and pastors the "Black Brigade" because they could raise up 300 men in an afternoon to march and oppose the Redcoats anywhere at any time. If you will examine the history of the Protestant churches in the colonies you will see that they were very politically active, constantly preaching against the Crown and preaching the Word of God as it is spoken in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Many preachers were tortured and murdered by the King's men for refusing to take a license. We have much the same situation today in every walk of life and there are few with the courage to stand up to the plundering pirates and tell them loudly "NO!"
it seems alot of the churches are all about money and wanting to get into the politics of everything now.
"Under every government the dernier resort of the people, is an appeal to the sword; whether to defend themselves against the open attacks of a foreign enemy, or to check the insidious encroachments of domestic foes. Whenever a people... entrust the defence of their country to a regular, standing army, composed of mercenaries, the power of that country will remain under the direction of the most wealthy citizens." Anonymous Framer of U.S. Constitution, Independent Gazetteer, January 29, 1791
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