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Title: How openminded are you? Have you had a change of heart on any major issue lately?
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Published: Oct 16, 2005
Author: Christine
Post Date: 2005-10-16 10:44:15 by christine
Keywords: openminded, lately?, change
Views: 11033
Comments: 177

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#131. To: christine (#0)

I changed my mind about my vote for Bush over 6 months ago. I see now that I helped vote the wrong man in. Mostly though, I have had a change of heart about the church. More and more, I am seeing the churches move away from God and into the greedy, it's all about money mode. Granted, there are many truly good, God worshiping churches out there, but it seems alot of the churches are all about money and wanting to get into the politics of everything now. Things have really changed since I was a kid. We went to church for one thing, to worship our Lord and give thanks. Nowadays, people go to church for financial classes, to plan vacations and hunting trips, and to look good in their community. Seems the churches are worshiping everything but God these days!

nc_girl_speaks_up  posted on  2005-10-16   21:56:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#133. To: nc_girl_speaks_up (#131)

Come to Asheville sometime and I will treat you to Build-More!, er (there I go again), Biltmore Baptist church which counts its members by the thousands. The church features a cafe and coffee shop. Gyms, auditoriums. Its great! You can go there and have people do your thinking for you. Mind-numbed, thoughtless Christianity. Don't forget to wear your Sunday best and pull up in nothing less than a Benz', BMW, Hummer, Acura, Caddy, or at the very least, nothing less than 3 years old.

-Or- Get this! We could go to see the Apostle Ron Carpenter preach at his church in Greenville (SC). Yes, and afterwards, take in some Starbucks Coffee in a genuine Starbucks establishment, inside the church!

How about this one. One of the Rescue "missions" in Asheville is run by a great man of God. He uses the homeless to build his home(s), do yardwork and pay them less than minimum wage (if at all) to do the work. We can then go to one of the consignment shops to buy some clothes to pay for one of his fancy cars or boats or houses!

Then there is my friend (youth pastor) near Columbia (SC) whose church barely makes ends meat, but was among the first to volunteer to take in refugees from New Orleans. They had no idea how they would do it; only that they felt like they should. In the end, they were not called upon to house people.

There is another friend who pastors a church near Raleigh who is trying to walk a delicate balance between a congregation who is elderly and doesn't want to do much and a number of younger couples who want to DO.

A pastor, friend and mentor from my college days who preaches near to me whose life's work is now focusing on and taking care of the baby boom generation: housing, care, spiritual needs, fun programs, etc.

Another pastor who left the church my in-laws go to, to make a career change to do fundraising for a local (to him) Christian College. A great man. Humble, honest, peaceful giant of a man. Not the least bit dynamic personality wise- like you would expect from someone fundraising. Very quiet and a man of few words who has never done fundraising. He loves a good joke and smiles. I don't know how, but that college will be rolling in money.

A former music minister at the church my wife and I used to go to. The man never said more than 10 words to anybody during his 5 years there. Somehow, the chior was always full. He played several instruments and always encouraged the kids to pick up and enjoy music. He was always the first to visit someone in the hospital, deliver food or prayer to a family in need. He would drop whatever he was doing in order to help someone at anytime without ever uttering one word of complaint.

scooter  posted on  2005-10-17 02:42:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

it seems alot of the churches are all about money and wanting to get into the politics of everything now.

Things have really changed since I was a kid. We went to church for one thing, to worship our Lord and give thanks. Nowadays, people go to church for financial classes, to plan vacations and hunting trips, and to look good in their community. Seems the churches are worshiping everything but God these days!

The churches and pastors have all sold out for their 501(c)(3) tax exemption. They no longer worship God, but Mammon instead. "No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will hold to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon" (Matthew 6:24).

The blind are truly leading the blind... and together they will all fall in the ditch. Good on ya that you see where they are headed so you don't join them. ;0)

BTW, in the revolutionary era the British called the preachers and pastors the "Black Brigade" because they could raise up 300 men in an afternoon to march and oppose the Redcoats anywhere at any time.

If you will examine the history of the Protestant churches in the colonies you will see that they were very politically active, constantly preaching against the Crown and preaching the Word of God as it is spoken in the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Many preachers were tortured and murdered by the King's men for refusing to take a license.

We have much the same situation today in every walk of life and there are few with the courage to stand up to the plundering pirates and tell them loudly "NO!"

BTP Holdings  posted on  2005-10-17 03:27:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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