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Title: How openminded are you? Have you had a change of heart on any major issue lately?
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Published: Oct 16, 2005
Author: Christine
Post Date: 2005-10-16 10:44:15 by christine
Keywords: openminded, lately?, change
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#68. To: A K A Stone (#53)
Perhaps the jail library has a tome on constitutional law. Check it out.
If you love America, you'll hate Israel.
At least some of them are. They kept their religious customs and traditions.
Jail library....why Driving is a right and I've already won several times. They are chicken shit of a jury trial.
your experience mirrors mine exactly.
The promise was to future generations also.
Perhaps you may assist me. As is my God given right, I want to practice micro- neurosurgery and I keep getting harrassed about some license crap. I'm pissed.
If you love America, you'll hate Israel.
The United Nations screwd up in 1947/48 when they established Israel. While I definitely sympathize with any group of people who have been the object of genocide, such as the Jews, or Armenians, etc, to establish a country out of guilt, while there are millions of people already living there, just doesn't seem like a good idea to me. It's not practical, it never was. I don't know what the solution to European Jewry was as I understand they would be reluctant to return to lands where they were under such massive attack during the war, but on the other hand, just sticking them in Palestine and calling it Israel doesn't seem to be a great idea either. Zionism seems to be a short lived proposition to me as how can the Israelis maintain their country in the midst of such massive hostility and growing numbers of enemies? I've always said - you can't fight demographics. Maybe we should have sent them to Borneo.
You should be allowed to do that. If you have anyone who wants you to do it its between you and them. We live in tyranny so you will have to take your chances.
Without some level of certification how are we going to know if someone is minimally qualified to perform various functions - such as driving, or brain surgery? I know that the certification doesn't guarantee GOOD driving or successful brain surgery or whatever, but hopefully it confers a minimum standard.
An excellent question, and one with a short answer: "no." The promise was to future generations also. Chapter and verse, if you please.
Yes I [k]now about the US[S] liberty!?! But not a whole lot, eh? There is NO CONCLUSIVE proof that it was attacked intentionally. Maybe they did attack on purpose. It's still speculation.
On that day, God made a covenant with Abram, saying: "To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt as far as the great river the Euphrates. The land of the Kenites, Kenizites, Kadmonites; the Chitties, Perizites, Refaim; the Emorites, Canaanites, Gigashites and Yevusites." (Genesis 15:18-21)
It was ordered to be left unprotected and sunk...LBJ said he wanted that "G.D" ship on the bottom.
Who is Israel? The Mystery of the Gentiles The Apostle Paul identifed the Corinthians to whom he wrote his first epistle as descendants of the Israelites who departed Egypt and traversed the wilderness with Moses: “Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that ALL OUR FATHERS WERE UNDER THE CLOUD, AND ALL PASSED THROUGH THE SEA....” 1 Corinthians 10:1 Paul identifed these same Corinthians as gentiles: “Ye know that YE WERE GENTILES, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.” 1 Corinthians 12:2 Was Paul confused, double minded – or did he know something that most Christians today do not know? The Mystery of the Gentiles challenges conventional thinking concerning the identity of the principal players in the Bible and the nations in the world today. Those who are unafraid to go wherever biblical truth may lead them are in for an eye-opening adventure. In Acts 26 the Apostle Paul asked King Agrippa, “Believest thou the prophets?” In The Mystery of the Gentiles, the same question will be asked of you – and if your answer is yes, you will embark upon an exciting journey toward the undeniable conclusion to a mystery that could forever impact your life. Also, Christian Duty Under Corrupt Government Theological error always comes before political error. Most, if not all, of our nation's political error is a result of theological error taught in our pulpits. The creator's order of creation put mankind second in command. Governments are a latter creation and are either righteous or evil, depending upon the spiritual condition of the creators. Political correctness is dependent on theological correctness. Theological and political error has put our nation at great risk. Christian Duty Under Corrupt Government is timely since we still have an opportunity to influence the future. Our nation's founders taught a more correct theology than we hear today. My hope and prayer is that this book will be read by many of our countrymen. M.J. "Red" Beckman "Under every government the dernier resort of the people, is an appeal to the sword; whether to defend themselves against the open attacks of a foreign enemy, or to check the insidious encroachments of domestic foes. Whenever a people... entrust the defence of their country to a regular, standing army, composed of mercenaries, the power of that country will remain under the direction of the most wealthy citizens." Anonymous Framer of U.S. Constitution, Independent Gazetteer, January 29, 1791
The Arabs are chidren of Abraham also. The quote would be true even if a single Jewish person did not live in the Middle East.
"Louisiana is a city that is largely underwater" -- Michael Chertoff, head of Homeland Security
The antidote to Michael Savage Runs the same time slot as Savage. But you can hear the archives anytime.
"Louisiana is a city that is largely underwater" -- Michael Chertoff, head of Homeland Security
On that day, God made a covenant with Abram, saying: "To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt as far as the great river the Euphrates. The land of the Kenites, Kenizites, Kadmonites; the Chitties, Perizites, Refaim; the Emorites, Canaanites, Gigashites and Yevusites." (Genesis 15:18-21) And just who are the descendants of whom the passagee speaks? And wasn't the gift, in fact, given in the book of Joshua? (And, by the way, I think it's "Hittites," not "Chitties" -- although they might, in fact, get a little chitty every now and then.) Before answering, you might want to consider Matthew 3:9, which says (John the Baptist speaking): ... and do not suppose that you can say to yourselves, "We have Abraham for our father;" for I say to you, that God is able from these stones to raise up children to Abraham. You might also want to consider Romans 10 and 11 -- the whole chapters.
Read for yourself what the survivors have to say. http://ussliberty.org/ And if you've a mind to do your due diligence in this you will also find where one of the Israeli pilots broke off the attack when he realized the ship was American, and was court martialed for it later by the IDF. This pilot has recently visited the U.S. and apologized personally to the survivors. His story alone is proof that the attack was a premeditated war crime on a ship of the United States Navy in international waters. We should have bombed the hell out of them back then and the world would be better off today. The ONLY reason it was NOT done was because of TREASON at the highest levels. Even jets launched twice by the USS Saratoga were recalled both times, once on the direct orders of LBJ.
"Under every government the dernier resort of the people, is an appeal to the sword; whether to defend themselves against the open attacks of a foreign enemy, or to check the insidious encroachments of domestic foes. Whenever a people... entrust the defence of their country to a regular, standing army, composed of mercenaries, the power of that country will remain under the direction of the most wealthy citizens." Anonymous Framer of U.S. Constitution, Independent Gazetteer, January 29, 1791
I have to admit I've been feeling the same way about the Bible lately.
I believe all religions are man's feeble attempts to understand God, there's probably varying amounts of truth to all of them. I do believe in God but I believe God is something beyond our comprehension while our souls reside in our earthly bodies. I believe after we die our souls go on to another dimension.
Howard Storm's My Descent into Death is the best book I've ever read about what will happen to our souls.
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hey, diane, i didn't ping you because i thought you were off the net. good to see you here.
It's too bad you didn't hear Alex Jones' interview of the ship's doctor, whose name slips my mind at the moment, a few months ago. There is conclusive proof. LBJ's own words for one example, as a matter of fact.
Not so much issues, but political philosophies. I have been a registered Republican for 23 years. Before that, I was a Young Republican for three. In June of this year I changed my party affiliation to Independent because I felt my party left me. They are no longer the party of smaller, less intrusive government, but the party of drunken, irresponsible spending. My views have not changed one iota, the parties has.
After having done a bit of reflecting on the history of the party, I don't think it's changed. I think the GOP has always been about conserving their own wealth and power. I think what's changed is that they now have an administration who openly flaunts it and our eyes have been opened to it. Now, is there anything that you have learned about an issue that you previously had a very strong opinion about that has influenced you to change your mind? Btw, who is that creature in your tagline?
Well....we all know the KJV was given to old Moses on Mt. Sinai! LOL....
He's one of the zombie's from Indiana Jones. I figure I've been called a bot enough times that I should have fun with it. As for my opinions, none have changed. I am still staunchly against global welfare, illegal immigration, affirmative action, and government involvement in anything not enumerated in the Constitution. There might be some ancillary issues that I have changed on, but the major ones have not changed.
About the land........God said He owned all the land and that he was giving this area to the Israelites. But it didn't and doesn't stop there.....there was a wee little word attached to the POSSESSION of the land. That little word was IF. After the IF word, there were several others that suggested the Israelites had to conform to his commandments, statutes, and laws. For modern day christians to think they can help God shows their ignorance. He doesn't need anyones help....especially a bunch of busybodies who need to be looking in their own
I’ve begun burning bridges with folks who refuse to educate themselves on the important issues facing us. By remaining rigid to their positions, despite factual rebuttal, they become part of the problem. They have to be walked around and left behind, despite the relationship.
He's one of the zombie's from Indiana Jones. I figure I've been called a bot enough times that I should have fun with it. Uh... No it's not. It's Boris Karloff from THE MUMMY.
I try to fight it. I have no drivers license. I have to go to court again later this month. DRIVING IS A RIGHT.
#69. To: wbales (#66)
Are the "Jews" who currently occupy Israel the same "Jews" that God promised Israel to back when that was written?
#70. To: wbales (#68)
#71. To: scooter (#51)
#72. To: Enderby (#67)
An excellent question, and one with a short answer: "no."
#73. To: A K A Stone (#70)
why Driving is a right and I've already won several times. They are chicken shit of a jury trial.
#74. To: robin (#24)
#75. To: wbales (#73)
#76. To: A K A Stone (#75)
#77. To: A K A Stone (#72)
o: Enderby
#78. To: wbales (#54)
Yes I now about the US liberty. I dont know if it was attacked purpousefully though. What was to gain from attacking it?
#79. To: Enderby (#77)
#80. To: A K A Stone (#78)
There is NO CONCLUSIVE proof that it was attacked intentionally.
#81. To: A K A Stone (#7)
He gave a particular piece of land to the jews. Its in the Bible. Do you not believe the Bible? He gave the gentiles all the rest of the earth to live on. Not to mention his grace. So your already part of the program.
Theologian, Writer, Lecturer
#82. To: A K A Stone (#79)
#83. To: mehitable (#65)
#84. To: A K A Stone (#79)
To: Enderby
#85. To: A K A Stone (#78)
There is NO CONCLUSIVE proof that it was attacked intentionally. Maybe they did attack on purpose. It's still speculation.
#86. To: christine (#37)
I don't believe that the bible is the infallible word of God. I believe now that dubious men with political and selfish agendas commissioned the various works in order to control the little people.
#87. To: A K A Stone, christine (#46)
#88. To: Diana (#87)
I believe after we die our souls go on to another dimension.
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#90. To: Diana (#87)
#91. To: A K A Stone (#78)
#92. To: christine (#0)
#93. To: 82Marine89 (#92)
#94. To: lodwick (#43)
#95. To: christine (#93)
Btw, who is that creature in your tagline?
#96. To: A K A Stone (#52)
yardhearts and minds and definitely spending more time in the book actually discerning and learning what it says.
#97. To: christine (#93)
#98. To: 82Marine89 (#95)
Btw, who is that creature in your tagline?
 | So many morons, so few bullets. |
#99. To: 82Marine89 (#95)
| So many morons, so few bullets. |
#100. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#98)
Thank's for the correction, I was told he was a zombie. Either way, I like the pic.
#101. To: 82Marine89 (#100)
You gotta see the movie. He wasn't a zombie. That's Kharis. I promise, when you see the movie, all will become clear.
| So many morons, so few bullets. |
#102. To: christine (#0)
I thought I was a republican because I wanted a smaller fiscally responsible government. Ha. Haha. Hahaha. Hahaha! Hahaha!!! I never voted though because I was just one person and really didn't follow politics. Ha. Haha. Hahaha. Hahaha! Hahaha!!! Last fall I voted for the first time in my life at age 40. I may not have made a difference, but years from now I'll be able to say, "Wasn't me that did it." Mwu. Mwuha. Mwuhaha. Mwuhaha! Mwuhahaha!! I was a stock market bull and believed that gold and silver were barbaric metals up until last summer. 25 years of history can't be wrong. I always felt it was better to own a piece of the bank than put the money in the bank. All that changed. Suddenly I find myself stocking up on canned goods, water, and barbaric relics. Crap. Crap crap. Crap Crap! Crap crap crap!!! For 20 years I hadn't felt the need to own a gun. Last summer I bought a 1911 .45 and joined a local gun club. Holy. Holy cow. Holy frickin' cow. Holy frickin' cow!!! Is that enough major issues? ;)
How openminded are you? Have you had a change of heart on any major issue lately?
When prosperity comes, do not use all of it. - Confucious
The nation is prosperous on the whole, but how much prosperity is there in a hole? - Will Rogers
#103. To: markm0722 (#102)
Let's see, where do I start after your rant??? I read a book called "The Devil", a history of how the Devil came to be. Now I don't belive in The Devil, nor do I really follow the bible because I think it's a tool to destroy the world, along with every other Godforsaken organized religion. I don't belive in psychic phenomena, as I've seen far to many fucking frauds put up on TV as the real thing. Those of us who really ARE psychic should go into hiding, and use our collective powers for evil, just to get even. I thought that Windows XP would be the best thing for me to use on my home computer. I thought that George Bush was the better choice than either Gore or Kerry. I thought that my government would cease to be full of morons who wanted to take my rights away, but after 6 years of this clown, I'm even more paranoid. Living in Minneapolis for the last 4 years has made me an incredibly intolerant person, as I used to be able to suffer with the idiocy around me. I thought that I'd have a good economic future with the republicans in office. Now I couldn't be more wrong. I thought that illegal immigration would be a top priority after 19 illegal aliens brought down the twin towers, and part of the Pentagon. Jesus Christ... I don't believe anything anymore. Not even when I fucking see it happening, I still don't believe it.
| So many morons, so few bullets. |
#104. To: markm0722 (#102)
yep, that's enough. :P
#105. To: christine (#0)
Taking a stab at getting the thread back to your initial question.......and it isn't exactly an idea, but sort of fits. As you know, I was a strong supporter of Alan Keyes for years.......going back to before the liar in chief's wimpy daddy's attempted second term campaign. Back in those years of listening to and reading Alan, I saw someone who was principled and well versed in the constitution. At tos2 and fu, I was challenged on him based on my earlier feelings of support. I did have a difference with him regarding volunteer service being mandatory-- but at that point it was merely discussion. I'd never go for volunteerism that way. And I was on the fence regarding Michael New. I was 100% in feeling Michael was correct in not defacing his uniform with the un blue shit, and felt the military let him down badly. Worse, the administration did, too....they all bowed down to making our men international soldiers. Alan Keyes, being from a military family, kept saying soldiers have to follow orders. I agree that out on the battlefield, it is important to follow commands, to take out a gunnery nest, or whatever, and it lends to unit cohesion, blah, blah, blah......but I just wasn't convinced. The day my mind changed was when he had the tv program on msnbc, what was it, January 2003, when he and that scumbag dertyshits were all but doing liplock over using torture. There was no disagreement over using torture, just the reasoning behind it. I've had enough 'justifying' of evil under the guise of 'good' to last several lifetimes. While I can thank him for having shone the light on abortion, the constitution was only words in his glorified vocabulary. :(
#106. To: markm0722 (#102)
Ya saw the light, eh? BTW, good rant.
#107. To: markm0722 (#102)
Sounds like you have made alot of good progress.
For 20 years I hadn't felt the need to own a gun. Last summer I bought a 1911 .45 and joined a local gun club.
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